Need some help for a Z vs 2000 Camaro showdown

V8Killer · 07-21-2011, 09:17 PM

Alright guys this is the thing. My buddy has a 2000 camaro with exhaust and a cam. The car is expected to have 380-400whp. His car is expected to be a mid 12 sec car. Now his launches average 2.2 and up for his 60fter. His car is about 200lbs heavier than my vehicle stock. The big factor, my buddy is 400lbs himself.

Now to my car. As of right now my baseline dyno is 285whp stock. Parts that will be installed are F.I. LTH, TDX CBE 18"resonators, Stillen UD pulley, oil cooler, g3 intake, NST overdrive alternator pulley, JWT clutch and flywheel combo. Tires are going to be RE-11's. 265/35F 285/25R on 19"Rays. Now as of about 3 weeks ago I am down to 180. The aftermarket parts will drop about 48lbs off the car. My 60fters are not the best either seeing as I have only driven at the track twice ever in my life. I think my best was a 2.1

I know I have an uphill battle but am I missing anything to help me out in this situation?

FL 4Motion · 07-22-2011, 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by V8Killer

Alright guys this is the thing. My buddy has a 2000 camaro with exhaust and a cam. The car is expected to have 380-400whp. His car is expected to be a mid 12 sec car. Now his launches average 2.2 and up for his 60fter. His car is about 200lbs lighter than my vehicle stock. The big factor, my buddy is 400lbs himself.

Now to my car. As of right now my baseline dyno is 285whp stock. Parts that will be installed are F.I. LTH, TDX CBE 18"resonators, Stillen UD puelly, oil cooler, g3 intake, NST overdrive alternator pulley, JWT clutch and flywheel combo. Tires are going to be RE-11's. 265/35F 285/25R on 19"Rays. Now as of about 3 weeks ago I am down to 180. The aftermarket parts will drop about 48lbs off the car. My 60fters are not the best either seeing as I have only driven at the track twice ever in my life. I think my best was a 2.1

I know I have an uphill battle but am I missing anything to help me out in this situation?

/\ turbos or a S/c. j/k, well not really but if you want to make it more competitive/really increase your odds of winning, get the 4.08 gears. Sounds like you've got all the bolt on mods done. With an equal 60ft, and with what you've listed, I think it could go either way with an edge going to your friend honestly.

V8Killer · 07-22-2011, 04:44 AM

Ya I feel the edge obviously is in his favor but with the weight difference he is heavier. Right now he is sitting 600lbs heavier than me so I am hoping that plays into my favor.

FL 4Motion · 07-22-2011, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by V8Killer

Ya I feel the edge obviously is in his favor but with the weight difference he is heavier. Right now he is sitting 600lbs heavier than me so I am hoping that plays into my favor.

good luck man, and let us know how it goes.

chuckd05 · 07-22-2011, 10:23 PM

Drag Radials will cut .5 off your time most likely... Thats your best shot... You sure he has 380-400 though?

V8Killer · 07-23-2011, 12:30 AM

No it is a rough estimate. I am not sure if he will dyno it. The guy he bought it from had two other modifications done to the vehicle but took them off so I am unsure and this is a number that my buddy and I came up with. My buddy is been in the car business for a few years and said he feels 370 out of the car and from driving it a mid 12 car. He said if I can get a good launch he won't be able to catch up. Right now I am looking at a nitrous kit. We will see what happens.

CBRich · 07-23-2011, 07:41 AM

He can "feel" 370? Can he come butt-dyno tune my car for me?

V8Killer · 07-23-2011, 08:48 AM

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He can "feel" 370? Can he come butt-dyno tune my car for me?

LOL Ya maybe, I know it sounds crazy but he has been in the racing scene for a long time and is usually on the money. I should make some money off him

chuckd05 · 07-26-2011, 11:38 AM

Race him yet? Just do it. From a dig who ever launches better will win. But all things equal I say ull have a good shot at walking him.

But I say this going by my Zs speed. Not sure how quick stock Ish Zs are, mine wasn't stock for long. I forget haha

V8Killer · 07-27-2011, 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by chuckd05

Race him yet? Just do it. From a dig who ever launches better will win. But all things equal I say ull have a good shot at walking him.

But I say this going by my Zs speed. Not sure how quick stock Ish Zs are, mine wasn't stock for long. I forget haha

Hey Chuck,

Nope not yet. I am still in Afghanistan. I get home mid Sept. The first weekend I am home we are going to the track so that gives me 3 days till the weekend to get used to driving my car with all the new mods. Does your Z have similar mods that mine will have shortly? For some reason I feel like I will walk him but I don't want to think that I like being the underdog.

chuckd05 · 07-27-2011, 09:04 PM

I have just about every na bolt on and 4.08 fd

red6spd · 07-27-2011, 09:28 PM

Yea I dont think he is making 380-400whp with just those mods. Your gonna get your Z Tuned as well correct?

V8Killer · 07-27-2011, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by red6spd

Yea I dont think he is making 380-400whp with just those mods. Your gonna get your Z Tuned as well correct?

O ya it will be tuned properly. I mean his other 2000SS was weak sauce with full bolt ons. Then again I dunno a cam can make a hell of a difference in those cars. I will say this his weight has to make a difference. His other 2000 SS was about 350whp and tq. I think the best he could do was a 13.4. When my buddy Jamie jumped in he got a 12.9. I am sure he had a decent 60fter too.

wh1te370z · 07-28-2011, 10:24 AM

red6spd he will most def make those numbers w that motor. those motors are crazy. my buddy has one in his 89 GTA they sell a kit thats heads and a cam and the car make around 550 rwhp (proven all over f-body forums and magizines), they are about 300rwhp stock.

As a referance to the OP. I did a run w a 2010 camaro SS (dont know if it was a stick or auto) and i took him by about maybe 2 cars? in a little over a 1/4 mile. on paper those cars are faster.

Your buddies BIGGEST problem is hooking up. I had a 95 Firebird that put around 350 to the wheels and i could barely get it to hook up with nitto DR and a some susp work, Shocks, springs, LCA, LCA relocators, and other ods and ends. His car also weights 400lbs more stock for stock. I think it should be a good race. If he hooks youll have a problem if he spins half of first gear or has a bad lanuch u got him. just my $.02

FL 4Motion · 07-28-2011, 10:42 PM

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07-21-2011, 09:17 PM	#1 (permalink)
V8Killer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Newport, NC Posts: 1,127 Drives: It Hard Till It Pops Rep Power: 16	Need some help for a Z vs 2000 Camaro showdown Alright guys this is the thing. My buddy has a 2000 camaro with exhaust and a cam. The car is expected to have 380-400whp. His car is expected to be a mid 12 sec car. Now his launches average 2.2 and up for his 60fter. His car is about 200lbs heavier than my vehicle stock. The big factor, my buddy is 400lbs himself. Now to my car. As of right now my baseline dyno is 285whp stock. Parts that will be installed are F.I. LTH, TDX CBE 18"resonators, Stillen UD pulley, oil cooler, g3 intake, NST overdrive alternator pulley, JWT clutch and flywheel combo. Tires are going to be RE-11's. 265/35F 285/25R on 19"Rays. Now as of about 3 weeks ago I am down to 180. The aftermarket parts will drop about 48lbs off the car. My 60fters are not the best either seeing as I have only driven at the track twice ever in my life. I think my best was a 2.1 I know I have an uphill battle but am I missing anything to help me out in this situation? __________________ "Punch" Too much to list and a baby shot of nitrous.... Last edited by V8Killer; 07-22-2011 at 04:19 AM. Reason: Mispelled pulley

07-22-2011, 04:44 AM	#3 (permalink)
V8Killer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Newport, NC Posts: 1,127 Drives: It Hard Till It Pops Rep Power: 16	Ya I feel the edge obviously is in his favor but with the weight difference he is heavier. Right now he is sitting 600lbs heavier than me so I am hoping that plays into my favor. __________________ "Punch" Too much to list and a baby shot of nitrous....

07-22-2011, 10:23 PM	#5 (permalink)
chuckd05 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NY Posts: 2,391 Drives: No longer a Z Rep Power: 19	Drag Radials will cut .5 off your time most likely... Thats your best shot... You sure he has 380-400 though? __________________ 09 370Z 6M PW - FBO Best 1/4 mile = 12.926 @ 109 SOLD -- 08 BMW 135i - FBO 12.1@120mph SOLD -- white 09 e92 335 Coupe Mtech - 11.9 @ 119 :-)

07-23-2011, 12:30 AM	#6 (permalink)
V8Killer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Newport, NC Posts: 1,127 Drives: It Hard Till It Pops Rep Power: 16	No it is a rough estimate. I am not sure if he will dyno it. The guy he bought it from had two other modifications done to the vehicle but took them off so I am unsure and this is a number that my buddy and I came up with. My buddy is been in the car business for a few years and said he feels 370 out of the car and from driving it a mid 12 car. He said if I can get a good launch he won't be able to catch up. Right now I am looking at a nitrous kit. We will see what happens. __________________ "Punch" Too much to list and a baby shot of nitrous....

07-26-2011, 11:38 AM	#9 (permalink)
chuckd05 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NY Posts: 2,391 Drives: No longer a Z Rep Power: 19	Race him yet? Just do it. From a dig who ever launches better will win. But all things equal I say ull have a good shot at walking him. But I say this going by my Zs speed. Not sure how quick stock Ish Zs are, mine wasn't stock for long. I forget haha __________________ 09 370Z 6M PW - FBO Best 1/4 mile = 12.926 @ 109 SOLD -- 08 BMW 135i - FBO 12.1@120mph SOLD -- white 09 e92 335 Coupe Mtech - 11.9 @ 119 :-)

07-23-2011, 07:41 AM	#7 (permalink)
CBRich A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: SC Posts: 2,464 Drives: 370Z Rep Power: 544	He can "feel" 370? Can he come butt-dyno tune my car for me?

07-27-2011, 09:04 PM	#11 (permalink)
chuckd05 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NY Posts: 2,391 Drives: No longer a Z Rep Power: 19	I have just about every na bolt on and 4.08 fd __________________ 09 370Z 6M PW - FBO Best 1/4 mile = 12.926 @ 109 SOLD -- 08 BMW 135i - FBO 12.1@120mph SOLD -- white 09 e92 335 Coupe Mtech - 11.9 @ 119 :-)

07-27-2011, 09:28 PM	#12 (permalink)
red6spd A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 3,277 Drives: 2010 Z Coupe M6 SPT Rep Power: 21	Yea I dont think he is making 380-400whp with just those mods. Your gonna get your Z Tuned as well correct? __________________ 2010 Base+Sport 6spd: Stillen G3, FI Non-Resonated CBE, FI Non-Resonated Test Pipes, UpRev Tuned, Custom 24R Oil Cooler, JDM Rear Fog-OEM Harness. ???Whp ???WTQ (Will find out come spring time)

07-28-2011, 10:24 AM	#14 (permalink)
wh1te370z Track Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: New York, Long Island Posts: 559 Drives: PW Base Sport 6 Spd Rep Power: 15	red6spd he will most def make those numbers w that motor. those motors are crazy. my buddy has one in his 89 GTA they sell a kit thats heads and a cam and the car make around 550 rwhp (proven all over f-body forums and magizines), they are about 300rwhp stock. As a referance to the OP. I did a run w a 2010 camaro SS (dont know if it was a stick or auto) and i took him by about maybe 2 cars? in a little over a 1/4 mile. on paper those cars are faster. Your buddies BIGGEST problem is hooking up. I had a 95 Firebird that put around 350 to the wheels and i could barely get it to hook up with nitto DR and a some susp work, Shocks, springs, LCA, LCA relocators, and other ods and ends. His car also weights 400lbs more stock for stock. I think it should be a good race. If he hooks youll have a problem if he spins half of first gear or has a bad lanuch u got him. just my $.02 __________________ 1998 BMW 328is... Track Build 2010 White 370z.... sold

07-28-2011, 10:42 PM	#15 (permalink)
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