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anyone thought of the 4.5L GTM bore and stroke kit?

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Old 09-03-2011, 07:22 PM   #1 (permalink)
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anyone thought of the 4.5L GTM bore and stroke kit?
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Old 09-03-2011, 08:20 PM   #2 (permalink)
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anyone thought of the 4.5L GTM bore and stroke kit?
I'm sure people have... but when you can get the GTM SC kit for the same price, it doesn't seem like it's worth the hassle... but that's just me... if you wanted to stay NA that bad, then yeah, maybe.
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I'm sure people have... but when you can get the GTM SC kit for the same price, it doesn't seem like it's worth the hassle... but that's just me... if you wanted to stay NA that bad, then yeah, maybe.
true but with the stroker kit you'll have a strong built bottem end of the engine which in turn can result for more boost for FI
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true but with the stroker kit you'll have a strong built bottem end of the engine which in turn can result for more boost for FI
Yeah, it has it's benefits.
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anyone thought of the 4.5L GTM bore and stroke kit?
I think about it all the time, now if I ever will do it, that's a different story...
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true but with the stroker kit you'll have a strong built bottem end of the engine which in turn can result for more boost for FI
I want to eventually go this route.. 4.5L then go TT kit. But when it's all said and done that's alot of dough spent in the end. I always compare price of car + $ spent for setup = what (whp or 1/4 ET). Thats just me though. Can it be done in a different platform for cheaper? Do I plan to keep the car til the wheels fall off? These are things I ask myself because when you mod then later decide to sell. You always end up losing out.


Back to the OP topic. I think it can "eventually" be done. More r&d, more parts, and lots of tuning along with track, weather etc etc. Sooner or later someone will fiberglass or carbon fiber alot of parts for some major weight reduction and finally hit it.
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I want to eventually go this route.. 4.5L then go TT kit. But when it's all said and done that's alot of dough spent in the end. I always compare price of car + $ spent for setup = what (whp or 1/4 ET). Thats just me though. Can it be done in a different platform for cheaper? Do I plan to keep the car til the wheels fall off? These are things I ask myself because when you mod then later decide to sell. You always end up losing out.


Back to the OP topic. I think it can "eventually" be done. More r&d, more parts, and lots of tuning along with track, weather etc etc. Sooner or later someone will fiberglass or carbon fiber alot of parts for some major weight reduction and finally hit it.
Same here, I also plan on doing the 4.5 bore and stroke kit with built heads w/ internals and all that, then get a gtm TT setup. It'll be a while before then though due to the cost of all this
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Speaking as a guy who has previously done a stroker kit on an FI motor, I don't know why you would. Internal engine work is expensive and a pain, and the gains are usually relatively small. You may get more durability, you may get less reliability--you don't really know. There aren't exactly a ton of cars running around with that kit, which doesn't provide me with a whole lot of comfort.
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Speaking as a guy who has previously done a stroker kit on an FI motor, I don't know why you would. Internal engine work is expensive and a pain, and the gains are usually relatively small. You may get more durability, you may get less reliability--you don't really know. There aren't exactly a ton of cars running around with that kit, which doesn't provide me with a whole lot of comfort.
I have to agree on that. I thought I would want to build my engine and turn the boost up but really going over 550whp on this platform is going backwards. I think going over that and you just lose the drivability of the car. If you want a car with over 500-550whp then make sure its AWD or its just a waste.
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I have to agree on that. I thought I would want to build my engine and turn the boost up but really going over 550whp on this platform is going backwards. I think going over that and you just lose the drivability of the car. If you want a car with over 500-550whp then make sure its AWD or its just a waste.
Exactly, what good is 650+WHP if you can't even get the wheels to stick? You just make for a good smoke cloud.

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I have to agree on that. I thought I would want to build my engine and turn the boost up but really going over 550whp on this platform is going backwards. I think going over that and you just lose the drivability of the car. If you want a car with over 500-550whp then make sure its AWD or its just a waste.
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Exactly, what good is 650+WHP if you can't even get the wheels to stick? You just make for a good smoke cloud.

Give me streetable power any day.

Thats not true.. are you talking about the RWD platform? Or just the Z period?


Because of your talking about traction issues with RWD being the problem then what about all those 600-1000whp supras and or mustangs?


The Z is by far the hardest RWD car I have had problems launching with. Its so hard being consistent with this car as he never bites the same way for some reason. Low end .... yes spinning will be is issue with any FWD or RWD car but on the freeway top end.....

If I could do it again.... I'd get an Evo X but I just didn't want another 4 banger
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Thats not true.. are you talking about the RWD platform? Or just the Z period?


Because of your talking about traction issues with RWD being the problem then what about all those 600-1000whp supras and or mustangs?


The Z is by far the hardest RWD car I have had problems launching with. Its so hard being consistent with this car as he never bites the same way for some reason. Low end .... yes spinning will be is issue with any FWD or RWD car but on the freeway top end.....

If I could do it again.... I'd get an Evo X but I just didn't want another 4 banger
Had it... it was a lot of fun, but the cheapness of the inside of the car REALLY wears on you after a while. The Z is SOOOOO much nicer inside and just in general.... and a lot of the people who are running the 600-1000 whp set-ups many times are just doing it to see how much power they can get, or they are going in straight lines... which takes all the fun out of what the Z was actually made for.

The same goes for the Evo's... really 350 whp on an Evo is MORE than enough to find a nice track and just get through all of the twists and just in general use the car for what it was intended.

Having a TT Z is cool no doubt, but at the end of the day, it's just to say you have a TT Z that runs 10's or 11's... ok now what? Don't people get tired of just going in a straight line after a while?
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I have to agree on that. I thought I would want to build my engine and turn the boost up but really going over 550whp on this platform is going backwards. I think going over that and you just lose the drivability of the car. If you want a car with over 500-550whp then make sure its AWD or its just a waste.
just ramp in the boost!!! very common practice, boost climbs as speed climbs! 1st gear 450rwhp is totaly useable, 2nd gear 500 is good, and so on

also, properly align your car, it makes all the difference! Take out all the camber in the back so it can hook up. I dont track my car so I dont notice any difference in handling all though I will say it looks stupid with no camber in the rear. I have considered a dual alignment, by putting marks on the adjustable arms at 2 alignment specs so I can roll under there and change it back and forth in 10 min any time i want.
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If the art pipes fit my stage2 Sc i will put them on before i put the SC on and see if they improve the 1/4 mile times

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hey man... i'm curious with your set-up with the LTH's and the F.I. CBE what you dynoed?
Dynoed on a Superflo dyno; baseline (unloaded) was 296whp. With LTHs and CBE ONLY, no tune etc, was 326whp (unloaded); so around 30whp gain.

I'll be going back at some point to see what the tune plus drop ins and soon Z1 PMTs give me.
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