370 Nismo vs. NSX

PapoZalsa · 09-26-2010, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ninous26

Well you have to remember they're mid engine so they have less drivetrain loss.. Plus we all know Nissan (sadly) over rates their HP ratings.. Plus the NSX is lighter.. You just never know though.

NSX does handle better.

It does handle better, but unless it has some mods in a straight line it will not make it.

But look at the specs for a supposed "super car":

252 HP SAE @ 6,600 rpm; 210 ft lb

Weight lb: 3152

z350boy · 09-26-2010, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by PapoZalsa

It does handle better, but unless it has some mods in a straight line it will not make it.

But look at the specs for a supposed "super car":

252 HP SAE @ 6,600 rpm; 210 ft lb

Weight lb: 3152

What made the NSX a supercar in it's time was the car's design, the extensive use of aluminum & mid engine layout.

Mercennarius · 09-26-2010, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ninous26

Plus we all know Nissan (sadly) over rates their HP ratings.

Haha no.

If anything they underrate them. The US SAE closely regulates what manufacturers advertise for power figures, more often then not they are underrated. Never seen a Nissan that was overrated in power from the factory.

Supergoji · 09-26-2010, 10:41 PM

the type S and Type R nsx are capable of high 12's in the 1/4. the NSX handles much better than any Z car. it's on par with lotus and ferrari.

Mercennarius · 09-26-2010, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Supergoji

the type S and Type R nsx are capable of high 12's in the 1/4. the NSX handles much better than any Z car. it's on par with lotus and ferrari.

Sport Auto ran a 7:38s lap time around the Nurburgring in the NSX in 1997.
Sport Auto ran a 7:26s lap time around the Nurburgring in the 350Z in 2003.

Motortrend ran a 1:46.5 lap time around Laguna Seca in the 370Z.
Top Gear ran a 1:57 lap time around Laguna Seca in the NSX.

Willow Springs:
370Z - 1:28.30
NSX - 1:32.59

Those are just a few tracks I picked, the 370Z has posted better lap times around essentially every track both cars have ran on.

Red__Zed · 09-27-2010, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Mercennarius

Sport Auto ran a 7:38s lap time around the Nurburgring in the NSX in 1997.
Sport Auto ran a 7:26s lap time around the Nurburgring in the 350Z in 2003.

Motortrend ran a 1:46.5 lap time around Laguna Seca in the 370Z.
Top Gear ran a 1:57 lap time around Laguna Seca in the NSX.

Willow Springs:
370Z - 1:28.30
NSX - 1:32.59

Those are just a few tracks I picked, the 370Z has posted better lap times around essentially every track both cars have ran on.

Do you have a link to those times?

Also, what tires were being run on each car...

The NSX is definitely past it's prime-- I wouldn't buy one for the performance, but it is a classic. It was truly an epic car.

elmz · 04-26-2011, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Mercennarius

Sport Auto ran a 7:38s lap time around the Nurburgring in the NSX in 1997.
Sport Auto ran a 7:26s lap time around the Nurburgring in the 350Z in 2003.

That can't be right because the 2012 GTR ran 7:24 in semi wet. That 350Z time was probably not the a full circuit.

Mercennarius · 04-26-2011, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by elmz

That can't be right because the 2012 GTR ran 7:24 in semi wet. That 350Z time was probably not the a full circuit.

Correction, it was 8:38 and 8:26.

Supergoji · 09-26-2010, 11:53 PM

WOW a 7:38 around the green hell for an NSX huh? and a 7:26 for a 350z?
thats pretty crazy man! they must have had a flux capacitator installed. i need to get one!

im sure you meant 8 instead of 7 haha.

links please? im pretty sure the nsx would be faster with both cars a 2005 NSX vs a 370z. both with the same tires and pads.

the NSX-R has a ring time of 7:56. the same time as a ferrari F360 stradale.

a car may handle better than another but not have a faster track time, due to tire size, compound and brake components, but like i said before i have no doubt in my mind that an nsx is the faster car.

Chriz · 09-27-2010, 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Supergoji

a car may handle better than another but not have a faster track time, due to tire size, compound and brake components, but like i said before i have no doubt in my mind that an nsx is the faster car.

Power to weight, the cars are nearly identical. I would love to see a real world comparison between the z34 and nsx around the track
Fastest numbers ive seen for the nsx is 0-60 4.5 and a 12.9@110 by car and driver back in 1998 (3.2L).
That one must have been a freak nsx though as the average seems to be around 4.8 seconds and 13.2 1/4

Mercennarius · 09-27-2010, 12:12 AM

Yes 8 minutes for both, not 7. Were talking about the regular NSX, not the JDM only limited production NSXR. Around a track 370Z > NSX.

xfrgtr · 09-27-2010, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Mercennarius

Yes 8 minutes for both, not 7. Were talking about the regular NSX, not the JDM only limited production NSXR. Around a track 370Z > NSX.

Exactly,370Z > NSX.

Push370zzz · 09-27-2010, 03:53 AM

I was in the same run group a few weeks ago at my track with a mid 90s NSX. I almost lapped him after 20 minutes and he was a decent driver. This was in the advanced class and was my first time out...

FuszNissan · 09-27-2010, 08:46 AM

I know the NSX will hold it's value better than the NISMO. (that should tell you something)

UNKNOWN_370 · 09-27-2010, 09:21 AM

The NSX is one bad mutha fu****. What trips me out is most of you preach about your superior Z handling whenever people bring up more powerful cars like vette and camaro. Now that someone actually pulled a "BADAZZ" retro supercar, people aren't impressed or whatever. Lol
This car is crazy light. Its engineering its ahead of its time. It was a $60,000+ car that put quarter million dollar cars in check. It was kinda like the audi R8 and Nissan GTR today.. at the time 290hp was not very common. Even tho the 300zxtt outgunned it as well as the supra. The nsx was a true supercar design. As far as design goes, nissan or toyota has never tried to build anything so aerodynamically perfect. The nsx engine and tranny was perfectlytuned. The driving experience couldn't be duplicated, not even in a corvette Z06. Some of you need to go diggin in the archives. I'm not gonna repeat stats cuz a few well educated forum brothers schooled you to the stats already but a "true mid engine" car boasts handling that front mid or front engines can't possibly duplicate. I wish honda still was building such genius. Honda sure fell off. Instead of trying to build the NS-X, they instead build the cr-z. I just don't get it...

09-26-2010, 11:53 PM	#9 (permalink)
Supergoji Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Westchester NY Age: 36 Posts: 311 Drives: Z32tt / Supra tt Rep Power: 257	WOW a 7:38 around the green hell for an NSX huh? and a 7:26 for a 350z? thats pretty crazy man! they must have had a flux capacitator installed. i need to get one! im sure you meant 8 instead of 7 haha. links please? im pretty sure the nsx would be faster with both cars a 2005 NSX vs a 370z. both with the same tires and pads. the NSX-R has a ring time of 7:56. the same time as a ferrari F360 stradale. a car may handle better than another but not have a faster track time, due to tire size, compound and brake components, but like i said before i have no doubt in my mind that an nsx is the faster car. Last edited by Supergoji; 09-27-2010 at 12:03 AM.

09-27-2010, 03:53 AM	#13 (permalink)
Push370zzz Track Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: NE Age: 40 Posts: 649 Drives: cars Rep Power: 17	I was in the same run group a few weeks ago at my track with a mid 90s NSX. I almost lapped him after 20 minutes and he was a decent driver. This was in the advanced class and was my first time out... __________________ Range Rover Sport Supercharged Nissan 370z Touring + Sport

09-27-2010, 08:46 AM	#14 (permalink)
FuszNissan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: St. Louis Posts: 14,275 Drives: Pure Sex Rep Power: 543	I know the NSX will hold it's value better than the NISMO. (that should tell you something) __________________ Mods: Too Many to list! LouFuszNissan ZDAYZ 2012

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09-26-2010, 10:41 PM	#4 (permalink)
Supergoji Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Westchester NY Age: 36 Posts: 311 Drives: Z32tt / Supra tt Rep Power: 257	the type S and Type R nsx are capable of high 12's in the 1/4. the NSX handles much better than any Z car. it's on par with lotus and ferrari.

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Mercennarius Base Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 160 Drives: Nissan Rep Power: 17	Yes 8 minutes for both, not 7. Were talking about the regular NSX, not the JDM only limited production NSXR. Around a track 370Z > NSX.

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UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14858	The NSX is one bad mutha fu****. What trips me out is most of you preach about your superior Z handling whenever people bring up more powerful cars like vette and camaro. Now that someone actually pulled a "BADAZZ" retro supercar, people aren't impressed or whatever. Lol This car is crazy light. Its engineering its ahead of its time. It was a $60,000+ car that put quarter million dollar cars in check. It was kinda like the audi R8 and Nissan GTR today.. at the time 290hp was not very common. Even tho the 300zxtt outgunned it as well as the supra. The nsx was a true supercar design. As far as design goes, nissan or toyota has never tried to build anything so aerodynamically perfect. The nsx engine and tranny was perfectlytuned. The driving experience couldn't be duplicated, not even in a corvette Z06. Some of you need to go diggin in the archives. I'm not gonna repeat stats cuz a few well educated forum brothers schooled you to the stats already but a "true mid engine" car boasts handling that front mid or front engines can't possibly duplicate. I wish honda still was building such genius. Honda sure fell off. Instead of trying to build the NS-X, they instead build the cr-z. I just don't get it...