370 Nismo vs. NSX

baldie · 05-14-2011, 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chan Chee Hoe

In S'pore,an NSX sold about $300,000.00 in the 90's,almost same the same price as the current GTR,so it is unfair to compare with the 370z,different class.

the nismo in SG is around 200k+ isnt it?

retiredmd · 05-14-2011, 10:53 PM

Having owned, modified and tracked three NSXs, very little information discussed on this thread is correct.
It is necessary to understand the NSX's handling was limited by small tires. The 1991-93 models used 15"/16" wheels, while later models used 16"/17" wheels.
1991-94 NSXs were capable of 13.7-13.8 seconds at 103-105 mph in the 1/4 mile.
1995-96 NSXTs were disappointing. They were heavier and demonstrated terrible cowl shake due to the lack of torsional rigidity (targa conversion and improper body reinforcement).
1997 and later Targa models had better reinforcement, more powerful engine/6 speed MT, etc. They typically ran 13.1-13.3 second 1/4 mile at 105-107 mph.
The best models were the special order, limited edition 1997 and later Coupes (including the 1999 Zanardi).
These cars ran 12.9-13.1 second 1/4 mile times. Their steering and handling-if equipped with 18"/19" wheels and appropriate tires-was superior to our Z cars.
If the NSX Prime website still exists, one can see posted time slips and track times. Of course, these ETs assume proper driver technique.
I modified 2 of my NSXs using CompTech and Dali Racing headers/exhausts. The cost factor was not prohibitive and the installation was much easier than on the Z cars.

Chan Chee Hoe · 05-14-2011, 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baldie

the nismo in SG is around 200k+ isnt it?

Nismo 370z is not sold here,based on the U.S. price,if it is sold here,it will costs about S$230K at least.

baldie · 05-14-2011, 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chan Chee Hoe

Nismo 370z is not sold here,based on the U.S. price,if it is sold here,it will costs about S$230K at least.

oh okay, how much did yours cost?

marcussoori · 05-17-2011, 01:06 PM

Hey all, I have also owned a NSX in the past. I agree with what retiredmd says. This probably isn't relevant to the discussion, but there will always be a faster car than the one we are driving...we just may not know about it. In addition, retiredmd and others are right when they say a head-to-head comparison is most valid (but even then not totally accurate) when done on the same day and location with the same wheel sizes, tires, and pads...otherwise, we're just guessing.

Anyways, I love both cars for their looks, handling, (modified) sound, and more. But for the overall experience, the NSX is better than anything I have ever driven (including F355, Mini Cooper S, E46 M3, 911S, Cayman S, etc.)...seriously, driving a NSX at even 2mph feels like an EVENT. In contrast, the 370Z is the best overall car I've ever had (also taking into account reliability, gas mileage, maintenance/upgrade costs, utility, etc.).

I wish I could have both! Perhaps one day...

retiredmd · 05-17-2011, 01:45 PM

But for the overall experience, the NSX is better than anything I have ever driven (including F355, Mini Cooper S, E46 M3, 911S, Cayman S, etc.)...seriously, driving a NSX at even 2mph feels like an EVENT. In contrast, the 370Z is the best overall car I've ever had (also taking into account reliability, gas mileage, maintenance/upgrade costs, utility, etc.).

I wish I could have both! Perhaps one day...[/QUOTE]

I quite agree. Let me add that my 3 NSXs were the most reliable cars I have ever owned, never requiring anything but routine service. I never, ever had to use the factory warranty. They were also very refined. It is a shame Mr. Sochiro Honda, the company's founder and the driving force behind the NSX concept, died early in the car's run. Had he remained alive, I believe the NSX, in coupe form only, would have survived, been further refined and improved.

Econ · 05-17-2011, 02:05 PM

regardless of who will win, the NSX is in a class of its own.

Its the GTR of the 90's (i think the nsx is better looking to this day)

Jeffblue · 05-17-2011, 02:45 PM

IMO, barely outdoing a sports car that is 15 years old says 2 things.

1. The NSX was way ahead of its time
2. We need to raise the bar, because 15 years later cars like ours SHOULD be running circles around cars that were ahead of their time 15 years ago.

toxik · 05-17-2011, 02:46 PM

i'm sold, i'll trade my Z for an NSX. PM me if u wanna trade

Isamu · 05-17-2011, 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Econ

regardless of who will win, the NSX is in a class of its own.

Its the NSX (i think the nsx is better looking to this day)

can't say the NSX is the GTR of the 90's because the GTR was the GTR of the ninties

Red__Zed · 05-17-2011, 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Isamu

can't say the NSX is the GTR of the 90's because the GTR was the GTR of the ninties

AlphaSnacks · 05-17-2011, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toxik

i'm sold, i'll trade my Z for an NSX. PM me if u wanna trade

Any plans for it?

Any plans to stop replying to an 8 month old thread?

toxik · 05-17-2011, 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arnold K.

Any plans for it?

Any plans to stop replying to an 8 month old thread?

look at this forum nazi over here

Red__Zed · 05-17-2011, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arnold K.

Any plans for it?

Any plans to stop replying to an 8 month old thread?

TheGreatOne · 05-17-2011, 03:40 PM

Love the NSX, only the interior is so dated unfortuantely.

Old threads are fun by the way lol.

05-14-2011, 10:53 PM	#47 (permalink)
retiredmd Base Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Florida Posts: 34 Drives: 370Z NISMO #354 Rep Power: 14	What? Having owned, modified and tracked three NSXs, very little information discussed on this thread is correct. It is necessary to understand the NSX's handling was limited by small tires. The 1991-93 models used 15"/16" wheels, while later models used 16"/17" wheels. 1991-94 NSXs were capable of 13.7-13.8 seconds at 103-105 mph in the 1/4 mile. 1995-96 NSXTs were disappointing. They were heavier and demonstrated terrible cowl shake due to the lack of torsional rigidity (targa conversion and improper body reinforcement). 1997 and later Targa models had better reinforcement, more powerful engine/6 speed MT, etc. They typically ran 13.1-13.3 second 1/4 mile at 105-107 mph. The best models were the special order, limited edition 1997 and later Coupes (including the 1999 Zanardi). These cars ran 12.9-13.1 second 1/4 mile times. Their steering and handling-if equipped with 18"/19" wheels and appropriate tires-was superior to our Z cars. If the NSX Prime website still exists, one can see posted time slips and track times. Of course, these ETs assume proper driver technique. I modified 2 of my NSXs using CompTech and Dali Racing headers/exhausts. The cost factor was not prohibitive and the installation was much easier than on the Z cars.

05-17-2011, 01:06 PM	#50 (permalink)
marcussoori Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: USA Posts: 468 Drives: 09 370Z Red AT Sport Rep Power: 16	Hey all, I have also owned a NSX in the past. I agree with what retiredmd says. This probably isn't relevant to the discussion, but there will always be a faster car than the one we are driving...we just may not know about it. In addition, retiredmd and others are right when they say a head-to-head comparison is most valid (but even then not totally accurate) when done on the same day and location with the same wheel sizes, tires, and pads...otherwise, we're just guessing. Anyways, I love both cars for their looks, handling, (modified) sound, and more. But for the overall experience, the NSX is better than anything I have ever driven (including F355, Mini Cooper S, E46 M3, 911S, Cayman S, etc.)...seriously, driving a NSX at even 2mph feels like an EVENT. In contrast, the 370Z is the best overall car I've ever had (also taking into account reliability, gas mileage, maintenance/upgrade costs, utility, etc.). I wish I could have both! Perhaps one day... __________________ Stillen CBE & G3 LTIs, Motordyne M370, Berk HFCs, H&R 15/20mm spacers, CiNcity headlights, yellow OEM strut brace, Password: JDM CF engine bay parts, EVO-R CF front bumper parts, CF "Z" badge, VIS CF hood, Fujimura CF "diffuser", Show-N-Go plate frame, Katzkin red interior, interior CF, Pioneer BT-90 full system, Viper SmartStart Last edited by marcussoori; 05-17-2011 at 01:09 PM.

05-17-2011, 02:05 PM	#52 (permalink)
Econ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: New York City Posts: 2,546 Drives: Fiat? Rep Power: 19	regardless of who will win, the NSX is in a class of its own. Its the GTR of the 90's (i think the nsx is better looking to this day) __________________ 2014 Triumph Thruxton 900 2013 Fiat 500 Abarth 2009 Nissan 370z

05-17-2011, 03:40 PM	#60 (permalink)
TheGreatOne A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Montreal, Canada Age: 46 Posts: 1,980 Drives: E60 BMW M5 Rep Power: 21	Love the NSX, only the interior is so dated unfortuantely. Old threads are fun by the way lol. __________________ 2017 SUBARU STI 2008 E60 M5 - SOLD 2010 40th Anniversary 370Z - SOLD (and missing her)

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05-17-2011, 01:45 PM	#51 (permalink)
retiredmd Base Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Florida Posts: 34 Drives: 370Z NISMO #354 Rep Power: 14	But for the overall experience, the NSX is better than anything I have ever driven (including F355, Mini Cooper S, E46 M3, 911S, Cayman S, etc.)...seriously, driving a NSX at even 2mph feels like an EVENT. In contrast, the 370Z is the best overall car I've ever had (also taking into account reliability, gas mileage, maintenance/upgrade costs, utility, etc.). I wish I could have both! Perhaps one day...[/QUOTE] I quite agree. Let me add that my 3 NSXs were the most reliable cars I have ever owned, never requiring anything but routine service. I never, ever had to use the factory warranty. They were also very refined. It is a shame Mr. Sochiro Honda, the company's founder and the driving force behind the NSX concept, died early in the car's run. Had he remained alive, I believe the NSX, in coupe form only, would have survived, been further refined and improved.

05-17-2011, 02:45 PM	#53 (permalink)
Jeffblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: NY Age: 36 Posts: 9,192 Drives: Z32TT & 335xi Coupe Rep Power: 37	IMO, barely outdoing a sports car that is 15 years old says 2 things. 1. The NSX was way ahead of its time 2. We need to raise the bar, because 15 years later cars like ours SHOULD be running circles around cars that were ahead of their time 15 years ago.