my dad used to have an A4 quattro and he said he'd take that car over his beemer any day. His lease is up in june and hes buying a
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03-05-2011, 11:14 PM | #1 (permalink) |
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my dad used to have an A4 quattro and he said he'd take that car over his beemer any day. His lease is up in june and hes buying a truck
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That's a nice BMW. She had an A4 before her 325. A 99. We both miss the Audi but love the BMW too... They're both good cars. The Audi had a better awd system as far as traction. I really like audi's and bmw's as well as my Z. Lol. Too many good cars out there!
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Here is a RB (Rob Beck) Turbo 335i. It's the stock turbo's just bored out a bit with very minor modifications. I don't think they run more than a few thousand.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcs_n...layer_embedded
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Anyone else think that a straight 6 with twin turbo's making 340-350 whp on 15 psi is kind of pitiful? A TT 370Z on 8 psi will make 440 whp. They really aren't in the same class. Unless you do a lot of weight reduction they will get eaten alive on a road courses much like an S5. They're touring cars. They're meant for cruising comfortably at high speeds and have the convenience of trunks, plush leather, and all the luxury amenities while still handling well and being "fast".
And why bore out the motor and keep stock turbo's? That may be cheaper but it's much more of a production than a turbo swap
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I agree with you though, without serious suspension upgrades, the 335i would not round a track like a 370z ever.
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Either way, we'll see how my bimmer compares at the track to my 370z in a couple of weeks. Just from driving around on curvy roads though...I have to say that the bimmer is going to kill it. And all from a $500 tune... |
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You're still comparing a twin turbo 6 to an NA 6. Of course you'll make more power by upping the boost. But 340 whp on 13 psi Vs 320 whp on 0 psi (full bolt on Z) isn't saying much. BPU++ supras will make 450 whp on pump gas with similar boost and you dont need to upgrade fuel pumps, etc. I'm just saying, the 135 and 335 are nice cars and make a ton of power with a simple ecu flash but it's not exactly a marvel of engineering in terms of reliability with said upgrades. But if you upgrade the fuel pump, exhaust, and intercooler than you'll have a more reliable way of making close to 400 whp on the stock turbos.
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I LOVED my 370 a lot, and it was difficult deciding to sell it. It was a fast car, and handled very well. The main problem in my opinion with the car is that it is NA. It would take about $10k to make my 370z as fast as my 135 is now, $500 later... But seriously, I cannot figure out why Nissan won't put a motor like the BMW's in a Z!! It would be an amazing car, and considering how much the 135 owners are loving the tuning scene...I cannot even imagine how much it would thrive in the Nissan culture. A car like the 370 that looks as good as it handles deserves a better engine!! |
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Also who cares what the psi is? The Z maxes out pretty quick on stock internals at relatively low pressures. It's like arguing which one of our girls' boobs are better when my girl started with an A cup and yours started with a B, but they both have boob jobs that put them at a D cup. Boobs are boobs
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All these points are valid but we seem to be hyper-focused on straight line acceleration and butt dyno's. The Z is a pure sports car. It's light, short wheel-based, high revving, rwd platform is for sports car purists. It's kind of different from the 335 in many ways. For example, the new 5.0 mustang with the performance package has been shown to be nearly as fast as an e92 m3 around a track, but who here would want to own the mustang over the m3 if money were not an option? Don't get me wrong I LOVE a solid, powerful, torquey German car. They're comfortable, handle well, Easy on the eyes, etc. But if all you're after is daily driving fun and acceleration, you're better off with an American V8. Idk about the 135, but the 335 would need substantial weight reduction to keep up with the Z around a tight road course. Going around sweeping curves or S turns on public roads is not the same as racing. Many more factors come into play. For example, if you're "racing" a car on a mountain road in some twisty turns , you'll be limited by the race line you can take because the path of the car is only one lane. So both cars will seemingly go through the turn at the same speed, and the one with more torque will appear faster. Theres a huge difference on a track.
If I had the money I'd have an S5 dd and make my Z into a full on race car. But I definitely don't. Or just buy a GTR FTW!
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I've only said that the 135 is faster than the Z in a straight line, and handles well, so I'm excited to see how it compares on the track.
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From what I've read and seen and heard, the 370z surpasses the 135i in every performance category... stock. After a few bolt-ons and tune just forget about it, the 135i will leave the 370z in the dust every time...
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