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280z/300zx 06-24-2011 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by emartinez (Post 1181807)
yea on track i think the camaro would have it but street wise, i've taken out a few SS camaros from rolls and stops. i dunno they just have a hard time gettin power down on the street

I actually disagree. I own both a NISMO 370z and a 2010 Camaro SS 6-speed. I think the Camaro is so easy to launch while the Z is near impossible. With the Z I get wheel hop like crazy in both 1st and 2nd. The Camaro is just spin and go. Even the wheel spin isn't that bad, it's not like the car roasts the tires or anything. It's just a tad of wheel spin and it's off. Not to mention the Camaro has launch control, which when used gets you some pretty good launches. The Camaro is infact my girls car but I drive it every time we go out as I only drive my Z to work and back (I drive a lot for work so when we do anything else we use her car as she drives very little for work). I'll say this, when it comes to straight line racing I'll choose the Camaro every time.

As far as legit racing goes we have only so far auto-x. The Z kills the Camaro obvioulsy. Usually I run 3-4sec faster in the Z. Still for it's weight it handles decent. Far better than the old F-body version (used to have a 2001 Trans Am V8) but not as good as the C6 Vette she used to have. I only mention the Vette becuase the Z would still best the Vette in auto-x.

As for drag racing, we haven't made it out to the strip yet. Every time we plan on it something comes up. We did do one quick pull a few months back where she surprised me off a start. She punched it already rolling in first and a split second later I punched it but already rolling in 2nd. She immediately pulled a car length on me but that was it. We shut it down at 70mph. (on a closed track out where we auto-x:tup:)

Basically if I had to put odds on which car is faster I would give it to the Camaro. On paper it's the faster car with lower ET times and higher trap speeds. Driving the car it feels faster than the Z. Launching the car is far easier than the Z. Honestly I think anyone who pulled on a newer Camaro was facing either a crappy driver or someone who didn't want to push their car. I've known lots of people with performance cars that when faced with a racing situation won't actually push the car to it's limits for fear of breaking it. One day we'll actually make it to the strip and I'll post the results but I dread the wheel hop.

Alchemy 06-24-2011 01:16 PM

^ the Z's arse does hop around, i hate it. The worst is when you hit a bump during a high speed turn and it skips out on you. Scary. I got my Swift springs yesterday so I hope to take care of that problem, hopefully.

Pelican170 06-24-2011 01:36 PM

Car and driver said the Camaro does the 1/4 mile at 13.4. Isnt that what the Z is about? i would think it would be a good race, since I would figure the Camaro would wheel spin more also but either way...

m4a1mustang 06-24-2011 01:41 PM

Yeah but if you go to any Camaro forum all of the decent drivers are pretty solidly in the 12s. 13.4 is definitely one of the slower times for the car. It'd be like if a mag reported the 370Z did the 1/4 in 14 seconds.

Pelican170 06-24-2011 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1187889)
Yeah but if you go to any Camaro forum all of the decent drivers are pretty solidly in the 12s. 13.4 is definitely one of the slower times for the car. It'd be like if a mag reported the 370Z did the 1/4 in 14 seconds.

Gotcha, just going off what ive read. Dont have any experience with them but to be honest, when i see them on the street, i dont get scared lol

280z/300zx 06-24-2011 02:17 PM

13.4 is hella slow. The average mag times I've seen reported are 12.9-13.1. The average for the Z is 13.2-13.5. Also if you look at any mag and compare the Camaro to the Z you will statiscally the Z is always slightly slower. Meaning that if C&D got 13.4 on the Camaro they probably got 13.5-13.6 for the Z.

And again no, the Z has more traction issues than the Camaro. Dispite the fact that the Camaro has skinnier rear tires and inferior traction ratings compared to my Nismo. And it's not due to the suspension of the NISMO because my previous touring/sport Z wasn't any better.

Pelican170 06-24-2011 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 280z/300zx (Post 1187952)
13.4 is hella slow. The average mag times I've seen reported are 12.9-13.1. The average for the Z is 13.2-13.5. Also if you look at any mag and compare the Camaro to the Z you will statiscally the Z is always slightly slower. Meaning that if C&D got 13.4 on the Camaro they probably got 13.5-13.6 for the Z.

And again no, the Z has more traction issues than the Camaro. Dispite the fact that the Camaro has skinnier rear tires and inferior traction ratings compared to my Nismo. And it's not due to the suspension of the NISMO because my previous touring/sport Z wasn't any better.

Yea did some more reading and your right, that 13.4 was a slower time... Im still surprised though about the wheel spin...

Shamu 06-27-2011 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Alchemy (Post 1187834)
^ the Z's arse does hop around, i hate it. The worst is when you hit a bump during a high speed turn and it skips out on you. Scary. I got my Swift springs yesterday so I hope to take care of that problem, hopefully.

The install of JRZ Clubsport coilovers with 1000 lb front srpings and 400 lb rears eleminated that hop completely on my car.

Blue370tt 06-27-2011 01:22 PM

My brother has the 2010 Camaro SS2 and we have run them (my Z his C) many times. Stock, we were DEAD EVEN before I went to my TT setup. Now with the TT stage 2 pkg its not even close.

I dont suffer from the "wheel hop" others are talking about. This could be because my car is a 7AT?? I dont really know.

cossie1600 06-27-2011 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by 280z/300zx (Post 1187815)
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As far as legit racing goes we have only so far auto-x. The Z kills the Camaro obvioulsy. Usually I run 3-4sec faster in the Z. Still for it's weight it handles decent. Far better than the old F-body version (used to have a 2001 Trans Am V8) but not as good as the C6 Vette she used to have. I only mention the Vette becuase the Z would still best the Vette in auto-x.

ummm no. c6 runs in ss and can trophy, 370z is a cs car. corvette is a faster car

bacalhau16 06-28-2011 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Alchemy (Post 1187834)
^ the Z's arse does hop around, i hate it. The worst is when you hit a bump during a high speed turn and it skips out on you. Scary. I got my Swift springs yesterday so I hope to take care of that problem, hopefully.

Ive had a similiar scary experience. Please let me know if your springs help out with that. I was thinking a better strut would help more though personally. Shoot me a pm when you install though if you could.

cossie1600 06-28-2011 10:40 AM

tires and alignment make more of a difference

280z/300zx 06-28-2011 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 1191930)
ummm no. c6 runs in ss and can trophy, 370z is a cs car. corvette is a faster car

I'm aware the Vette is in a faster class but when you compare times the Z comes out on top, at least with my local area it does. Back when I used to have the Vette my Z would still pull a faster time. It was also easier to turn in on sharp turns where the Vette would understeer. Also the only Vette guys that pull faster times are the Z06 guys. So either myself and the other Vette owners suck at driving Vettes or the Z is a better auto-x car. Either way the Z is hands down the easier car to driver around an auto-x course.

Also I thought the Z was BS class, at least that's how we run them. Not that it matters to me as I'm not out there to compete for a trophy

cossie1600 06-28-2011 08:30 PM

Due to the change in weather condition, a direct time comparison might not be ideal. Still, SS cars lay down faster times most of the times at the tour. There is a reason why SS cars carry a much higher PAX than CS. C5 non Z06s are AS cars. At this point, C6 probably won't take home a win. Still, the car was fast enough to finish in the top 5 at the tour a few years back. I would have finished in the trophies in a C6 had I not kicked cones on the last turn in day 1 (i am still pissed over that). Corvettes are not easy cars to drive, it was part of the reason why I gave mine up. I completely agree the 370z turns in better and they are much easier to drive. Faster? Hell no.

I have one raw FTD in my Prius and none in my C6 or 370z. It's all about luck and who is driving that day. Autox is weird like that.

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Originally Posted by 280z/300zx (Post 1194594)
I'm aware the Vette is in a faster class but when you compare times the Z comes out on top, at least with my local area it does. Back when I used to have the Vette my Z would still pull a faster time. It was also easier to turn in on sharp turns where the Vette would understeer. Also the only Vette guys that pull faster times are the Z06 guys. So either myself and the other Vette owners suck at driving Vettes or the Z is a better auto-x car. Either way the Z is hands down the easier car to driver around an auto-x course.


Red__Zed 07-01-2011 12:25 PM

Ugh


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