370z vs Camaro SS
Has anyone run against the new (09/10) Camaro SS at the track...if so what was the results?
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A purely Sports car ("Z"), vs a Muscle car...Different categories, dude. V6 vs V8...I'd love to see the Camaro against the GT-R, now THAT would level things up a bit!!!
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The Camaro is a 13.1 second 1/4 mile car, the GT-R is a mid 11 second car. The 370z in a straight line will lose stock to stock to a a Camaro SS but it will still be close and a bad shift or bad launch from the Camaro and the Z might stand a chance. |
I've seen them drag at the track here, they struggle pretty hard in the pit, terrible wheel spin, if the Z hooks and gets a good launch, it could win. Hell, someone in an auto would have an even better chance. Once I get this Cobb tune and get a dyno done, i'll do my best to run one. They usually lurk at the track here and challenge people they know they can beat, lame a$$es.
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BTW, Camaros = the New Mustang, starting to overcrowd the streets here already, thank god I didnt buy one.
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thats TX for ya
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lol well there's small towns all around Houston. i believe there is only 2 370z in league city but ive seen 5-6 in the webster/clear lake/ dickinson area
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Will let everyone know in the next month or two once our local track reopens. I've got a stock 09 sport touring. My girlfriend has a 2010 Camaro 2SS 6-speed MT. Honesly I think given we can both hook up she will take me in a straight line. Driving her car you can just feel the torque it has. It's only problem is the weight it carries. We will be auto-x this weekend and I have no doubt who the winner will be:tup:
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Must be nice to have a chick like that and can drive MT...how good is she with the MT?
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Last Fall I was at the track and Ran against New Challenger R/T's and Charger Daytonas and they were not even close to hitting my 13.3 which was the best for me that day. Both models were high 13's at best. It would be fun to run a new SS I think it would be very very close.
Edit---- Until you make the turn and the SS spins out :) DAN |
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Would not be a problem to beat then in the 1/4 mile.
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up date on the car, headers, cats, CBE,and NXT pulley now installed.
Have played with the cobb and nissan advanced my timing 2 degrees. Also changed the throtle settings with the cobb, that really woke up the 4.08 gears. This thing just screams now. I have trouble shiffting at 7800 as it goes through the grears like lightning. 0 to 85 KM is way faster than before. I just love the paddle shifter's the drag radials should be here friday and im going to dyno on the 18 inch 305 , 35 18 mickey thompson drag radial 11. Will post dyno next week. It feels twice as fast with my butt dyno than before/ |
I have a co-worker who has a SS and wants to run one weekend at the track. I have looked at the test run against the mustang vs the camaro and the mustang vs 370. The numbers are very close with the Z getting the mustang but I have not seen any runs of the Z vs the SS. Although the camaro has almost 100 horses more than the Z, it also has the extra weight that goes along with the camaro. The V6 Camaro has 300 horses, but I'm sure it would not run with the Z. If the camaro is faster, I won't know how much until I am up against it. I guess we'll have to see who hooks up first....and if it's me, I'm sure he will have to work to catch me.
I don't really believe it'll be a blow out, by no means.:driving: |
what mods do you have?
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I'm a big muscle car fan, most of my previous cars have been mustangs or camaros.
But we all know that the muscle cars of today are not what the used to be. I you see the reviews between the camaro ss vs challenger rt vs mustang gt, they all say that the mustang gt is the better fo the 3 cars even with the least power of the bunch. and the 370z beat the mustang gt in all of the reviews dane to the these day. i as many of you gauy bought the 370z because of its history, the uniqueness that it has on the road and the potential that it can achive, but to get there it needs way more money. thats why you see a dozen different types of mustangs on the road. the 370z is the best car of the 4, even right now you see some 350z's that make you turn around because it looks so good, but mustangs and camaros are like starbucks or mcdonald's, there are one in ever single corner. still love them, but i would buy another one unless is a classic, a true nuscle car. imo |
I say a Z with a good driver could get him, but the Z driver would need to have greater skill than the Camaro driver, if the Chevy driver is any good he should win.
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they are compleatly different cars
camaro = drag strip 370z = road course but the world is a road course so 370z +1 |
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12.874@109 stock 2010 maro SS. you would be a tad to cocky if you think it would be no problem. they have launching issues but if they hook up there 12 second cars stock. and though im not a fan of them they also take very well to mods. exhaust,intake and UD pulley and nittos netted one a 12.4@111mph. equally driven the SS should be quicker in the 1/4 but if there just a gas pedal puncher and they just spin. you will have them beaten. much like any cars that are somewhat similiar in 1/4 times. but you mostly find the new camaro to be a few tenths quicker and a couple mph faster stock for stock. and you think there is a bunch of them right now?.... wait till the new 2011 stang GT comes out in late 2010. they will be like a plague of locust.... |
Feels really heavy and slow in it's transient response. Overall not a bad looking car but not for me.
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I hate the saying its drivers race, but it really is with the Camaro stock. So many other factors fall into play for both cars. |
Dynoed the car last night with all the N/A mod's, 310 SAE or 320 actual rwhp.
Car is running a little lean. It accelerates much faster than before. If all goes well the 1/4 mile calculator says that it will 12.49 to 12.52. (18 SAE + RWHP = the car will be 32lbs lighter than last years weight + the drag radials) Will post time's after the track open's in April, |
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...where's Bridget???..
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Posted this on June 26, 2010 on the "Official 370Z 1/4 mile Times thread (Stock, TT, Nitrous, Supercharger, Bolt ons etc)" thread.
Houston Raceway Park, Fri. June 25, 80 degrees, 80% humidity, press. 30" Best run out of 7 runs: R/T - .610 60' - 2.081 330 - 5.689 1/8 - 8.619 MPH - 86.27 1000 - 11.174 1/4 - 13.333 MPH - 105.23 It was a really typical SE Texas summer night, warm and humid! Oh yeah, forgot to mention that the tank was full of gas too! Note: only mod on car is an Invidia CBE |
Stock vs Stock both cars driven properly the SS should have a slight edge..
my best pass was against a camaro SS and you can tell his MPH was the same but his 60 was awful.. would of been a great race if he hooked... i ran 12.9 him 13.9 lol heres the slip http://www.the370z.com/members/chuck...5-5-100001.jpg |
Nearly the same trap but about a full second difference!
Goes to show how much a sub 2 second 60' matters. |
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I'm not sure where some of you folks are getting your info from but it's quite apparent many here are misinformed. For one, the 10’ Camaro SS is more than just a drag car / straight line car, same story with the Mustang. Times have changed and these “Muscle cars” are now just as and in some cases more capable then what you call “Sports cars”.
The 10’ Camaro SS for example has a Laguna Seca lap time of: 1:45.7. By comparison the 370z best recorded time is 1:46.5. At Virginia International Raceway (VIR) the Camaro SS ran a 3:09.5, the 370z Nismo ran 3:12.0. At “The Ring” Nordschleife the Camaro SS ran an 8:20, the last 350z has a best recorded time of 8:26. In regards to straight line acceleration it’s no contest, the Camaro SS is in another league. It’s a high 12 sec @110-112mph car where as the Z has recorded times in the mid 13’s @104-106 on average. It’s a silly comparison and of course things like modifications and driver skill come into play. But the bottom line is that all things being equal the Camaro SS is faster. That doesn’t make the Z a bad car or anything it just means there are other cars out there which are quicker and or just as capable, etc. Regardless I would rather own a 370z because it looks better and is more enjoyable to drive. I could care less if Billy happens to have a faster car. Just as well I would rather own a 09+ Porsche Cayman S or BMW M3 over a Nissan GT-R. I personally don’t make a liven winning automobile races so having the fastest car isn’t important to me. I look for cars that can deliver an excellent car and driver connection and are rewarding and fun to drive,etc. Take the Mazda Miata for instance, slow as balls yet very fun and rewarding to drive. |
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I’m sure you would rather have some random ¼ mile time slip / video, etc showing some noob driver in a Camaro SS getting demolished by a 370z with no proof of modifications, etc right? I've beaten an 03' Cobra in the 1/4 mile with an MS3 so that's proof the MS3 is faster? |
The 6MT Camaro SS is quicker (especially from a roll-on) than the AUTO version unlike the Z's 7 speed AUTO.
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