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z man 03-10-2010 12:35 PM

370z vs Camaro SS
 
Has anyone run against the new (09/10) Camaro SS at the track...if so what was the results?

j.arnaldo 03-10-2010 01:03 PM

A purely Sports car ("Z"), vs a Muscle car...Different categories, dude. V6 vs V8...I'd love to see the Camaro against the GT-R, now THAT would level things up a bit!!!

theDreamer 03-10-2010 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by j.arnaldo (Post 438536)
A purely Sports car ("Z"), vs a Muscle car...Different categories, dude. V6 vs V8...I'd love to see the Camaro against the GT-R, now THAT would level things up a bit!!!

:confused:
The Camaro is a 13.1 second 1/4 mile car, the GT-R is a mid 11 second car.
The 370z in a straight line will lose stock to stock to a a Camaro SS but it will still be close and a bad shift or bad launch from the Camaro and the Z might stand a chance.

Red370 03-10-2010 01:37 PM

I've seen them drag at the track here, they struggle pretty hard in the pit, terrible wheel spin, if the Z hooks and gets a good launch, it could win. Hell, someone in an auto would have an even better chance. Once I get this Cobb tune and get a dyno done, i'll do my best to run one. They usually lurk at the track here and challenge people they know they can beat, lame a$$es.

Red370 03-10-2010 01:38 PM

BTW, Camaros = the New Mustang, starting to overcrowd the streets here already, thank god I didnt buy one.

B1nks 03-10-2010 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Red370 (Post 438603)
BTW, Camaros = the New Mustang, starting to overcrowd the streets here already, thank god I didnt buy one.

Hell yes they are, got like 8-10 here in town and it's a small city. There are 3 370Z's, including mine, now and one is a Nismo.

xiven 03-10-2010 01:53 PM

thats TX for ya

iceman21_23 03-10-2010 02:22 PM

lol well there's small towns all around Houston. i believe there is only 2 370z in league city but ive seen 5-6 in the webster/clear lake/ dickinson area

280z/300zx 03-10-2010 03:02 PM

Will let everyone know in the next month or two once our local track reopens. I've got a stock 09 sport touring. My girlfriend has a 2010 Camaro 2SS 6-speed MT. Honesly I think given we can both hook up she will take me in a straight line. Driving her car you can just feel the torque it has. It's only problem is the weight it carries. We will be auto-x this weekend and I have no doubt who the winner will be:tup:

kgreen 03-10-2010 03:11 PM

Must be nice to have a chick like that and can drive MT...how good is she with the MT?

One_Quick_Z 03-10-2010 03:30 PM

Last Fall I was at the track and Ran against New Challenger R/T's and Charger Daytonas and they were not even close to hitting my 13.3 which was the best for me that day. Both models were high 13's at best. It would be fun to run a new SS I think it would be very very close.


Edit---- Until you make the turn and the SS spins out :)

DAN

280z/300zx 03-10-2010 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by kgreen (Post 438706)
Must be nice to have a chick like that and can drive MT...how good is she with the MT?

It's very nice actually. When we go racing I get to have my arm candy but then when it's time to race she can bring it too. As for her skills with the manual, she has room for improvement. Her previous car was an auto C6 Vette. She is used to driving sports cars and can handle them quite well, but she has been out of the manual scene for the last few years so she needs to get used to it again. Plus it's a new car anyway, so she is still getting used to it. This weekend will be the first time she actually pushes the car since buying it, so it will be a good expirence. As for the launch for a drag race, her car comes with launch control. So the only thing she has to worry about is shifting after that. I plan I trying that out for myself this weekend as well down an empty road.

Z eliminator 03-10-2010 06:43 PM

Would not be a problem to beat then in the 1/4 mile.

kgreen 03-10-2010 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Z eliminator (Post 439032)
Would not be a problem to beat then in the 1/4 mile.

of course easy for u to say!:icon18:

Red370 03-10-2010 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Z eliminator (Post 439032)
Would not be a problem to beat then in the 1/4 mile.

This coming from a guy who has our fasted time slip proofed 370's :icon18:

Z eliminator 03-10-2010 07:14 PM

up date on the car, headers, cats, CBE,and NXT pulley now installed.
Have played with the cobb and nissan advanced my timing 2 degrees.
Also changed the throtle settings with the cobb, that really woke up the 4.08 gears.
This thing just screams now. I have trouble shiffting at 7800 as it goes through the grears like lightning. 0 to 85 KM is way faster than before. I just love the paddle shifter's
the drag radials should be here friday and im going to dyno on the 18 inch 305 , 35 18
mickey thompson drag radial 11.
Will post dyno next week.
It feels twice as fast with my butt dyno than before/

z man 03-10-2010 07:58 PM

I have a co-worker who has a SS and wants to run one weekend at the track. I have looked at the test run against the mustang vs the camaro and the mustang vs 370. The numbers are very close with the Z getting the mustang but I have not seen any runs of the Z vs the SS. Although the camaro has almost 100 horses more than the Z, it also has the extra weight that goes along with the camaro. The V6 Camaro has 300 horses, but I'm sure it would not run with the Z. If the camaro is faster, I won't know how much until I am up against it. I guess we'll have to see who hooks up first....and if it's me, I'm sure he will have to work to catch me.

I don't really believe it'll be a blow out, by no means.:driving:

Red370 03-10-2010 08:17 PM

what mods do you have?

Puma0183 03-11-2010 08:33 PM

I'm a big muscle car fan, most of my previous cars have been mustangs or camaros.
But we all know that the muscle cars of today are not what the used to be.
I you see the reviews between the camaro ss vs challenger rt vs mustang gt, they all say that the mustang gt is the better fo the 3 cars even with the least power of the bunch. and the 370z beat the mustang gt in all of the reviews dane to the these day.
i as many of you gauy bought the 370z because of its history, the uniqueness that it has on the road and the potential that it can achive, but to get there it needs way more money. thats why you see a dozen different types of mustangs on the road.
the 370z is the best car of the 4, even right now you see some 350z's that make you turn around because it looks so good, but mustangs and camaros are like starbucks or mcdonald's, there are one in ever single corner. still love them, but i would buy another one unless is a classic, a true nuscle car. imo

NYBladeZ 03-11-2010 09:10 PM

I say a Z with a good driver could get him, but the Z driver would need to have greater skill than the Camaro driver, if the Chevy driver is any good he should win.

Puma0183 03-11-2010 09:25 PM

they are compleatly different cars
camaro = drag strip
370z = road course
but the world is a road course so 370z +1

jtown82 03-17-2010 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Z eliminator (Post 439032)
Would not be a problem to beat then in the 1/4 mile.


12.874@109 stock 2010 maro SS. you would be a tad to cocky if you think it would be no problem. they have launching issues but if they hook up there 12 second cars stock. and though im not a fan of them they also take very well to mods. exhaust,intake and UD pulley and nittos netted one a 12.4@111mph. equally driven the SS should be quicker in the 1/4 but if there just a gas pedal puncher and they just spin. you will have them beaten. much like any cars that are somewhat similiar in 1/4 times. but you mostly find the new camaro to be a few tenths quicker and a couple mph faster stock for stock. and you think there is a bunch of them right now?.... wait till the new 2011 stang GT comes out in late 2010. they will be like a plague of locust....

Sharif@Forged 03-17-2010 07:10 AM

Feels really heavy and slow in it's transient response. Overall not a bad looking car but not for me.

370Zsteve 03-17-2010 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Puma0183 (Post 440987)
But we all know that the muscle cars of today are not what the used to be.

True, they are much faster and much more competent road cars.

theDreamer 03-17-2010 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by jtown82 (Post 450229)
12.874@109 stock 2010 maro SS. you would be a tad to cocky if you think it would be no problem. they have launching issues but if they hook up there 12 second cars stock. and though im not a fan of them they also take very well to mods. exhaust,intake and UD pulley and nittos netted one a 12.4@111mph. equally driven the SS should be quicker in the 1/4 but if there just a gas pedal puncher and they just spin. you will have them beaten. much like any cars that are somewhat similiar in 1/4 times. but you mostly find the new camaro to be a few tenths quicker and a couple mph faster stock for stock. and you think there is a bunch of them right now?.... wait till the new 2011 stang GT comes out in late 2010. they will be like a plague of locust....

You are talking about the <0.1% of drivers who can do sub 13 in a stock Camaro SS. Now it is also just as hard for a 370z driver to get that 13.1 or under time, but the average driver on a good day for the Z is putting a 13.2 or 13.3 while the SS is on average putting down 13.1 or 13.2.
I hate the saying its drivers race, but it really is with the Camaro stock. So many other factors fall into play for both cars.

Z eliminator 03-17-2010 08:20 AM

Dynoed the car last night with all the N/A mod's, 310 SAE or 320 actual rwhp.
Car is running a little lean. It accelerates much faster than before. If all goes well the 1/4 mile calculator says that it will 12.49 to 12.52. (18 SAE + RWHP = the car will be 32lbs lighter than last years weight + the drag radials)
Will post time's after the track open's in April,

jtown82 03-17-2010 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 450424)
You are talking about the <0.1% of drivers who can do sub 13 in a stock Camaro SS. Now it is also just as hard for a 370z driver to get that 13.1 or under time, but the average driver on a good day for the Z is putting a 13.2 or 13.3 while the SS is on average putting down 13.1 or 13.2.
I hate the saying its drivers race, but it really is with the Camaro stock. So many other factors fall into play for both cars.

heh you basically just said what i said. I said the camaro should win... but if there just a pedal masher or if they goof a shift. the Z will win. but that goes even more so for the Z. the maro has more room for error if only slightly. but even if they were a 12.5 car stock i wouldnt want one. i just dont like the look nor the 4000+ lbs curb weight

j.arnaldo 03-17-2010 02:29 PM

...where's Bridget???..

ianthegreat 03-18-2010 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 450424)
You are talking about the <0.1% of drivers who can do sub 13 in a stock Camaro SS. Now it is also just as hard for a 370z driver to get that 13.1 or under time, but the average driver on a good day for the Z is putting a 13.2 or 13.3 while the SS is on average putting down 13.1 or 13.2.
I hate the saying its drivers race, but it really is with the Camaro stock. So many other factors fall into play for both cars.

Who's run below a 13.2 in a stock 370z?

ianthegreat 03-18-2010 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Z eliminator (Post 450426)
Dynoed the car last night with all the N/A mod's, 310 SAE or 320 actual rwhp.
Car is running a little lean. It accelerates much faster than before. If all goes well the 1/4 mile calculator says that it will 12.49 to 12.52. (18 SAE + RWHP = the car will be 32lbs lighter than last years weight + the drag radials)
Will post time's after the track open's in April,

With your radials, you will put down some good times. In San Antonio I trapped at 116.9 with an et of 13.6! Damn I'm good. :roflpuke2:

romoore14 07-04-2010 12:03 PM

Posted this on June 26, 2010 on the "Official 370Z 1/4 mile Times thread (Stock, TT, Nitrous, Supercharger, Bolt ons etc)" thread.

Houston Raceway Park, Fri. June 25, 80 degrees, 80% humidity, press. 30"
Best run out of 7 runs:

R/T - .610
60' - 2.081
330 - 5.689
1/8 - 8.619
MPH - 86.27
1000 - 11.174
1/4 - 13.333
MPH - 105.23

It was a really typical SE Texas summer night, warm and humid! Oh yeah, forgot to mention that the tank was full of gas too!

Note: only mod on car is an Invidia CBE

chuckd05 07-04-2010 03:12 PM

Stock vs Stock both cars driven properly the SS should have a slight edge..

my best pass was against a camaro SS and you can tell his MPH was the same but his 60 was awful.. would of been a great race if he hooked...

i ran 12.9 him 13.9 lol

heres the slip

http://www.the370z.com/members/chuck...5-5-100001.jpg

Jordo! 07-04-2010 07:08 PM

Nearly the same trap but about a full second difference!

Goes to show how much a sub 2 second 60' matters.

jnaut 07-04-2010 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by chuckd05 (Post 606532)
Stock vs Stock both cars driven properly the SS should have a slight edge..

my best pass was against a camaro SS and you can tell his MPH was the same but his 60 was awful.. would of been a great race if he hooked...

i ran 12.9 him 13.9 lol

heres the slip

http://www.the370z.com/members/chuck...5-5-100001.jpg

also look at 1/8 mph he came back from a 3 mph deficit..that car is making some power.

mrcardio 07-04-2010 11:08 PM

I'm not sure where some of you folks are getting your info from but it's quite apparent many here are misinformed. For one, the 10’ Camaro SS is more than just a drag car / straight line car, same story with the Mustang. Times have changed and these “Muscle cars” are now just as and in some cases more capable then what you call “Sports cars”.

The 10’ Camaro SS for example has a Laguna Seca lap time of: 1:45.7. By comparison the 370z best recorded time is 1:46.5. At Virginia International Raceway (VIR) the Camaro SS ran a 3:09.5, the 370z Nismo ran 3:12.0. At “The Ring” Nordschleife the Camaro SS ran an 8:20, the last 350z has a best recorded time of 8:26.

In regards to straight line acceleration it’s no contest, the Camaro SS is in another league. It’s a high 12 sec @110-112mph car where as the Z has recorded times in the mid 13’s @104-106 on average. It’s a silly comparison and of course things like modifications and driver skill come into play. But the bottom line is that all things being equal the Camaro SS is faster.

That doesn’t make the Z a bad car or anything it just means there are other cars out there which are quicker and or just as capable, etc. Regardless I would rather own a 370z because it looks better and is more enjoyable to drive. I could care less if Billy happens to have a faster car. Just as well I would rather own a 09+ Porsche Cayman S or BMW M3 over a Nissan GT-R.

I personally don’t make a liven winning automobile races so having the fastest car isn’t important to me. I look for cars that can deliver an excellent car and driver connection and are rewarding and fun to drive,etc. Take the Mazda Miata for instance, slow as balls yet very fun and rewarding to drive.

Cmike2780 07-04-2010 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by mrcardio (Post 606972)
I'm not sure where some of you folks are getting your info from but it's quite apparent many here are misinformed. For one, the 10’ Camaro SS is more than just a drag car / straight line car, same story with the Mustang. Times have changed and these “Muscle cars” are now just as and is some cases more capable then what you call “Sports cars”.

The 10’ Camaro SS for example has a Laguna Seca lap time of: 1:45.7. By comparison the 370z best recorded time is 1:46.5. At Virginia International Raceway (VIR) the Camaro SS ran a 3:09.5, the 370z Nismo ran 3:12.0. At “The Ring” Nordschleife the Camaro SS ran an 8:20, the last 350z has a best recorded time of 8:26.

In regards to straight line acceleration it’s no contest, the Camaro SS is in another league. It’s a high 12 sec @110-112mph car where as the Z has recorded times in the mid 13’s @104-106 on average. It’s a silly comparison and of course things like modifications and driver skill come into play. But the bottom line is that all things being equal the Camaro SS is faster.

That doesn’t make the Z a bad car or anything it just means there are other cars out there which are quicker and or just as capable, etc. Regardless I would rather own a 370z because it looks better and is more enjoyable to drive. I could care less if Billy happens to have a faster car. Just as well I would rather own a 09+ Porsche Cayman S or BMW M3 over a Nissan GT-R.

Sweet! I love magazine racing. My favorite form of motorsport :wtf2:

mrcardio 07-04-2010 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780 (Post 606981)
Sweet! I love magazine racing. My favorite form of motorsport :wtf2:

It's not "magazine racing" it's called "reality"

I’m sure you would rather have some random ¼ mile time slip / video, etc showing some noob driver in a Camaro SS getting demolished by a 370z with no proof of modifications, etc right? I've beaten an 03' Cobra in the 1/4 mile with an MS3 so that's proof the MS3 is faster?

mrcardio 07-04-2010 11:48 PM

The 6MT Camaro SS is quicker (especially from a roll-on) than the AUTO version unlike the Z's 7 speed AUTO.

Mercennarius 07-05-2010 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrcardio (Post 606972)

In regards to straight line acceleration it’s no contest, the Camaro SS is in another league. It’s a high 12 sec @110-112mph car where as the Z has recorded times in the mid 13’s @104-106 on average. It’s a silly comparison and of course things like modifications and driver skill come into play. But the bottom line is that all things being equal the Camaro SS is faster.

Anybody that knows anything about drag racing knows that trap speeds tell all. The 370Z had a higher trap then the SS there for its the faster car, regardless of what the ET was.Also the 370Z has pulled 12.9s bone stock, its really a drivers race with the SS Camaro.

Cmike2780 07-05-2010 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrcardio (Post 606992)
It's not "magazine racing" it's called "reality"

I’m sure you would rather have some random ¼ mile time slip / video, etc showing some noob driver in a Camaro SS getting demolished by a 370z with no proof of modifications, etc right? I've beaten an 03' Cobra in the 1/4 mile with an MS3 so that's proof the MS3 is faster?

I reject your reality and substitute my own!


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