Well look at Bayern. Yeah they have improved greatly with Robben and yes he has scored some insane goals to bring them to the CL final. But I dont know....I just see it more as a team effort. Yeah Robben has be absolutely dirty this season for Bayern but how good would they be without TEAM WORK?

The thing is its not just RVP who is Arsenal. Things build up from defense/midfield to bring it to the attackers. For example, how would Bayern be without Schweinsteiger who matured into arguably one of the best midfielders in the world currently?

Ever since I've played sports as a kid I've had "there is no I in team" drilled into my head...and I still stand by that today.

I am seeing the Golden boot between Klose and Milito

RvP and Drogba, David Villa has a shot as well, Milito is good, but doesnt have a left foot.

Idk...I dont see RVP because the Netherlands have too many attacking options
Drogba no because they will not make it far enough
Villa...I considered...but then again Spain have too many options. Especially if Torres will be healthy by the WC. If not...then yes he is a high possibility.

Reasons I picked Milito and Klose:

Klose is a balanced attacker. He has a sense of where to be at the right times. Not only that, but he is insane when it comes to headers. In 2002, all of his goals were headers. Podolski is good when he throws on a Germany jersey but I see him feeding Klose mostly.

Milito....I dont even need to mention it haha. He is just too good.

Hey Red...Your opinion..Do you think Klose will tie/pass Ronaldo for all time goals?

15 goals

* Brazil Ronaldo

14 goals

* Germany Gerd Müller

13 goals

* France Just Fontaine

12 goals

* Brazil Pelé

11 goals

* Germany Jürgen Klinsmann
* Hungary Sándor Kocsis

10 goals

* Argentina Gabriel Batistuta
* Peru Teófilo Cubillas
* Germany Miroslav Klose
* Poland Grzegorz Lato
* England Gary Lineker
* Germany Helmut Rahn

Dont get me wrong, Klose is an amazing header of the ball and especially adept at poaching near the goal, but Germany has alot of excellent goal scorers as well, I dunno, we'll see. Milito is amazing as well, but if you watched the Bayern game, notice how every time he gets the ball near the box, he'll pull the ball back and shoot with his right foot, I think well coached teams will know how to defend him. However, his compatriot Messi scores with both feet and makes keepers shit themselves and vomit simultaneously any time he gets the ball inside the 18, lets not count him out either.

Well this will be a new German team. They are definitely known for their attacking...as well as their size and power especially in the midfield. I do like their attack options but I just have a feeling about Klose. I cannot explain it though lol

Yeah I agree on Milito....well...I am STRONGLY disagreeing on that "well coached team" comment. Van Gaal is one of the best coaches out there now. Its just that the CBs are the weak link for Bayern and were exploited. That has nothing to do with their coaching. Bayerns CBs werent able to contain him...end of story. If they had Lucio in there however Milito woulda been shut out. But with the speed of Argentina I just see his ability to score. Look at the 1st goal I believe. Julio Cesar punted up field and 3 touches later the ball was in the back of the net. SPEED lol.

Not counting Messi out....but he is just garbage on Argentina and everyone knows it.


As for RVP.....I think Robben is the only threat to him not having a shot lol. We all know how Robben likes to hold onto the ball.

This song ftw btw

Okay so I'm still pissed off about the news' unending stream of bullsh*t surrounding Cesc, so kind of irritated. But:

(Arsenal rant)
I'm all for "there is no I in team", but like you said, every player is an important link in the overall chain.

Goalkeeping - don't even get me started with how awful we are here...so let's play dumb here and forget our GKs are ****.

The defensive line, for the better part of the season, was pretty good. Sagna, Gallas, and the Verminator, and bringing Campbell back was quite a surprise. Clichy was **** 90% of the season but looked to recover at the end; sad if he leaves for Barca though. Next year we should be decent if Djourou recovers fully, as does Gibbs. That's assuming replacing Gallas with someone good (read: Hangeland) as well.

The midfield was superb by virtue of the skipper, and Nasri, Song, and Ramsey (pre WTFSHAWCROSSYOUFUCKINGCUNT injury) also deserve praise. Even Abou Diaby, dumbass that he is with no vision whatsoever, made his runs well when they were available. Or he just bulldozed them. Which was fun to watch sometimes.

But Arsenal has LONG been regarded as playing beautiful football, providing excellent setups, but poor finish. Arshavin? Out of position. Bendtner? Head too big to figure out how to make a proper header, and can't seem to finish on chippies. Walcott? All speed, nothing more yet. Eduardo? I'm sorry, but he's done, his confidence in making strong attacks on goal is just gone since his injury. Who does that leave? Vela (rofl), and...yeah, Robin van Persie when he's healthy. Arsenal has NO better target man than RvP.

That's why having RvP healthy is so critical. The forwards just haven't stepped up IMO. So no, he does not MAKE the team, if anybody wants to make a conjecture like that, it's FABREGAS who makes the team. But judging from the bench in the forward position, Robin was really the one quality striker we had, and his presence on the pitch makes a monstrous impact on the game. Hopefully with us adding Chamakh we add a little more quality to the front line though.
(/Arsenal rant)

Back to WC2010: World Cup 2010 - On-form Germany score 24 - Yahoo! Eurosport

I cracked up at this. That's kind of a douchebag move to score 24, though hahahaah. But is it just me, or is Germany's midfield getting really thin? First Ballack, now Trasch? I guess I'm not familiar enough with them to make any judgment calls.

Also, it sucks for Ghana losing Essien. That's HUGE for their team.

lol @ 24 goals

Both goals were Bergkamp-esque.

did anyone see the resurgence of Van der Vaart? that SOB was a f'in stud in the Mexico game, his passes were spot on, his close control was ridiculous, he won every ball he went for, can you imagine? all this with the addition of Sneijder? omgomgomgomgomg

I will however, add one caveat, the dutch defense looked suspect the whole match, I hope that wasnt the lineup that starts in the cup.

I'm going for Spain this time around...and Mexico as an old favorite...:eekdance:

Hey Red...look what I found today :ugh:

Top 10 Best Value World Cup Bets - Goal.com

haha, oh lord. Some of those bets are just ludicrous!

I laughed when Klose was in there considering our convo last night. But ya some of those others are wayyy out there haha

Red, apparently the Dutch squad was under strength today (feeling out other players).

Look who Bayern is about to sign :excited:

Arjen Robben claims Van de Vaart ready for Bayern move - Europe - ESPN Soccernet

That'd be a good move for him.

He would fit perfectly in Van Bommels spot

Despite being down a goal, the States are looking OK.

USA won 2-1

Germany won 3-0

:excited:

:tup:

dempsey got pretty lucky with that flick underneath the GK haha.

i gotta say, the US defensive line is pretty suspect, but oguchi is a BEAST.

1st half and 2nd half were like night and day.

and i wrote it in the other thread, but findley is like the american theo walcott, runs around like crazy, still a little out of control, but if he can learn the game a little more and play with his head in the game a bit, he'll be fine.

well unfortunately I wasnt able to catch the match tonight because I was at a rock concert in Dallas, it was great mind you, but I was just watching the highlights and is it me, or does Jozy look like a changed man? hes running at defenders, playing in dangerous balls and holding the ball nicely, crazy what a year in the EPL has done for the kid. Overall a pretty damn good performance from the US squad, they showed alot of grit and we'll need boatloads of that come world cup time.

Defense still makes me nervous

The defense made me nervous at first, but in the second half they closed down every counter attack very well & actually held possession. I've never seen a US squad hold the ball so well. After Turkey got the goal, it was the best match I've ever seen a USA team play.

I've been having that exact talk with my girlfriend for the past year.

When is it gonna end :mad:

At least they're deep.

They still can go deep...but man.....I dont want the heartache of 2006 again

I remember watching this live. Worst thing ever :crai:

subs plox

wut lol

so who seen the Netherlands 4-1 drubbing of Ghana? Sneijder scored a wonder goal, and RvP once again, doesnt miss a penalty, does he ever miss? So news headlines are starting to say that they are one of the favorite to win the cup, and what was I saying a month or two ago??

lol @ Italy losing to Mexico

I know right? I ROFLMFAO'ed at that one... hope that wasnt the first team.

Oh yeah... theres this:

Ruud Gullit: Holland's Robin Van Persie Will Emerge As The Star Of The 2010 World Cup - Goal.com

Vela with the goal, why the phuck can't he do that in an Arsenal shirt :facepalm:

But Italy is gonna get spanked this year. No teeth in that offense, they needed three shots and a lucky bounce to get their consolation goal. Mexico should've killed them 3-1 at minimum, they should've had a penalty in that game too

Red: let's not heap too much pressure onto RvP, shall we? His legs might fall off again...:ugh2:

**** boys I have tentatively picked Netherlands FTW in a pool I joined

He doesn't get into matches often. He might next year, though.

inoright?
knock on wood, no.

^ you think so? he'll be behind van persie, chamakh, and bendtner. not sure how many he'll get into with our forward lineup like that.