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m4a1mustang 09-24-2012 10:50 PM

God this has become a joke. I was rooting for the Seahawks but this is just ridiculous. With each game it gets gets worse and worse.

b1adesofcha0s 09-24-2012 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1930459)
God this has become a joke. I was rooting for the Seahawks but this is just ridiculous. With each game it gets gets worse and worse.

:iagree:

That was a HORRIBLE call, but damn that was a spectacular ending.

m4a1mustang 09-24-2012 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 1930461)
:iagree:

That was a HORRIBLE call, but damn that was a spectacular ending.

Spectacularly wrong on every level :bowrofl:

b1adesofcha0s 09-24-2012 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1930464)
Spectacularly wrong on every level :bowrofl:

Exactly. If this doesn't get the NFL to bring the original refs back, I don't know what the hell will.

m4a1mustang 09-24-2012 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 1930467)
Exactly. If this doesn't get the NFL to bring the original refs back, I don't know what the hell will.

I think the only thing that will truly force the NFL to cave is if the fans stop watching.

axmea? 09-24-2012 11:01 PM

The Packers were ROBBED!!!!! and I'm not a cheese head.

dastaco 09-24-2012 11:03 PM

So does that game go down as a tie between Green Bay and the Seahawks... and a win for the refs?

m4a1mustang 09-24-2012 11:04 PM

Yup. They won the game, closed it out with an INT.

b1adesofcha0s 09-24-2012 11:05 PM

I can see the team owners pressuring the league to get the refs back after everything that's happened this week.

MC 09-24-2012 11:05 PM

yeah no doubt i dont care who you like ... there is no room for interpretation on that play. it was an interception

also horrible pass interference but even if you dont call that which sometimes they dont on plays like that... interception by jennings all day long

wow!

b1adesofcha0s 09-24-2012 11:05 PM

That game ended with a full on raping of the integrity of the NFL.

b1adesofcha0s 09-24-2012 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MC (Post 1930478)
yeah no doubt i dont care who you like ... there is no room for interpretation on that play. it was an interception

also horrible pass interference but even if you dont call that which sometimes they dont on plays like that... interception by jennings all day long

wow!

And even before that the roughing the passer call. I think it was the Packers vs the Refs for that drive.

Nismo89 09-24-2012 11:09 PM

Packers got robbed. These Refs NEED to go!!!! Ray Lewis was right, they are taking away the integrity of the game. they obviously have no clue what they are doing.

how is a ball NOT intercepted when the defender has BOTH hands on it AND against his body? while the reciever PUSHED a defender to the ground and got 1 hand on the ball AFTER they went to the ground?!

holy F*ck. this needs to straighten up lol

m4a1mustang 09-24-2012 11:11 PM

What's the one thing we have in common with the Taliban?

We both want the real refs back!

Nismo89 09-24-2012 11:17 PM

watching McCarthy's post game press conference is bringing back memories of Dennis Greene's famous

" they are who we thought they were.....and we let them off the hook!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

b1adesofcha0s 09-24-2012 11:20 PM

ESPN had an excellent explanation of the rule for this situation. Normally if 2 eligible receivers take simultaneous possession of the ball (i.e. they both catch it at the same time) the catch goes in favor of the offense. However, if one of the receivers establish possession first and then the second receiver gets joined possession of the football, then the catch goes in the favor of the first receiver. That's exactly what happened with Jennings getting possession of the ball first.

Also, good call by McCarthy about not commenting on the refs. The league really can't say anything to him now.

Infamous 09-24-2012 11:20 PM

Unbelievable. Bring the real refs back!!!

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6MT 09-24-2012 11:20 PM

Wow, was that a joke! I can't believe what my NFL has become. So sad... So sad.

MC 09-24-2012 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Nismo89 (Post 1930489)
Packers got robbed. These Refs NEED to go!!!! Ray Lewis was right, they are taking away the integrity of the game. they obviously have no clue what they are doing.

how is a ball NOT intercepted when the defender has BOTH hands on it AND against his body? while the reciever PUSHED a defender to the ground and got 1 hand on the ball AFTER they went to the ground?!

holy F*ck. this needs to straighten up lol



yeah they just explained the simultaneous catch rule on ESPN and that made it even more clear that it wasnt that..

b1adesofcha0s 09-24-2012 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MC (Post 1930506)
yeah they just explained the simultaneous catch rule on ESPN and that made it even more clear that it wasnt that..

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 1930503)
ESPN had an excellent explanation of the rule for this situation. Normally if 2 eligible receivers take simultaneous possession of the ball (i.e. they both catch it at the same time) the catch goes in favor of the offense. However, if one of the receivers establish possession first and then the second receiver gets joined possession of the football, then the catch goes in the favor of the first receiver. That's exactly what happened with Jennings getting possession of the ball first.

Also, good call by McCarthy about not commenting on the refs. The league really can't say anything to him now.

Yup I explained it right here. Looks like twitter has been blowing up with responses from other players and all of them say the same thing.

frost 09-24-2012 11:38 PM

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b1adesofcha0s 09-24-2012 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by frost (Post 1930520)

That was the actual conversation they had. True story. :icon17:

dastaco 09-24-2012 11:40 PM

Just thinking out loud, but shouldn't the NFL have to answer to every Packers shareholder that wants to know how/why their team lost off of what is obviously a bad call? I mean, this game could have playoff implications which would impact team revenues... if i'm a shareholder I'd call the NFL to the carpet on this one.

dastaco 09-24-2012 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by frost (Post 1930520)

I just laughed out loud, well done.

b1adesofcha0s 09-24-2012 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by dastaco (Post 1930522)
Just thinking out loud, but shouldn't the NFL have to answer to every Packers shareholder that wants to know how/why their team lost off of what is obviously a bad call? I mean, this game could have playoff implications which would impact team revenues... if i'm a shareholder I'd call the NFL to the carpet on this one.

It's funny, I was actually just thinking the exact same thing. :tup:

shadoquad 09-24-2012 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by frost (Post 1930520)

:icon18:


Not taking away from the Seahawks. They played a great game.

But there were some BAD calls at the end of that game. Horrid.

Hell, the Pack got the advantage on a bad call on their last scoring drive. The integrity of the game is on shaky ground.

m4a1mustang 09-24-2012 11:44 PM

IIRC the shares the packers sold are a novelty and don't represent actual ownership in the team.

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dastaco 09-24-2012 11:45 PM

Of all of the teams to lose because of a blown call, the packers are the best option. Any other team has one owner that can just call old Roger and complain, now he is gonna have to deal with an angry public.

shadoquad 09-24-2012 11:49 PM

At least the pack showed great class by going out for the meaningless pat. Pete carroll could have also been classy by ordering a kneeldown, but whatevs, a farce is a farce.

m4a1mustang 09-24-2012 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1930527)
:icon18:


Not taking away from the Seahawks. They played a great game.

But there were some BAD calls at the end of that game. Horrid.

Hell, the Pack got the advantage on a bad call on their last scoring drive. The integrity of the game is on shaky ground.

What integrity?

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MC 09-25-2012 12:57 AM

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Titan1080 09-25-2012 01:37 AM

I don't like winning games like that just as much as I don't like losing games like that.

Nismo89 09-25-2012 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by MC (Post 1930637)

:shakes head: yep........ that was 100 percent a catch by the WR..... :shakes head:

b1adesofcha0s 09-25-2012 09:20 AM

Looks like the NFL will be addressing the call sometime today and I can't wait to hear what kind of BS they come up with now.

Here's an interesting result that I hadn't even considered before
Seattle-Green Bay touchdown call could have altered $250 million in bets | Shutdown Corner - Yahoo! Sports

shadoquad 09-25-2012 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Titan1080 (Post 1930688)
I don't like winning games like that just as much as I don't like losing games like that.

Agreed. I heard there were some shady calls at the end of the Ravens game that shifted the balance, and it's upsetting.

Again, you can't take anything away from the Seahawks and their performance. They were in that game and never gave up. Same with the Packers. The frustration is with the NFL and the Referee Union. It's tainting the product on the field.

b1adesofcha0s 09-25-2012 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1930951)
Agreed. I heard there were some shady calls at the end of the Ravens game that shifted the balance, and it's upsetting.

Again, you can't take anything away from the Seahawks and their performance. They were in that game and never gave up. Same with the Packers. The frustration is with the NFL and the Referee Union. It's tainting the product on the field.

:iagree:

daisuke149 09-25-2012 10:45 AM

the way I look at it... the call at the end of the packers call was NOT the worst call ive seen. there is a little bit of hard to call in real time for that one. And the type of play was just not reviewable so it was unfortunate. And it had a clear impact on game results.

But overall there have been alot more blatant miss calls or blatant bad calls. But this happens to both teams in every game so its hard to really determine who benifits in the end.

BUUUT its still very clear that its all ******** and needs to stop regardless.

bdavis89 09-25-2012 10:47 AM

I don't understand this crap. This isn't controversy. The call was simply wrong, plain and simple. I haven't heard anyone argue that it was correctly called. I don't understand why they can't fix it. The whole scenario is absurd. It was the last play, and would be over either way, so fix the d%#n call and give the win to the Packers. If the Seahawks had any integrity they would give up the win. I'm sick of the political correctness BS. There was a mistake, suck it up and fix it, regardless of whether the Seahawks get butthurt about it.

They said the play wasn't reviewable. Well, why not? "It's not in the rules." Seriously? I'm more concerned with getting the call right, regardless of what's in the "rules" for what is reviewable or not reviewable. This is why I can't watch baseball.

b1adesofcha0s 09-25-2012 10:52 AM

The play was definitely reviewable and in fact was reviewed, with the TD call upheld after that review. There is no excuse for that call. All scoring plays are automatically reviewed as are all turnovers so either way it goes, it is an automatically reviewed play. The situation would not have been as bad if they reversed the call after the review, but they did not.

shadoquad 09-25-2012 11:09 AM

I heard, though, that possession is not reversible.


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