2010 Formula 1 thread

[Pharmacist]

alonso is a piece of **** and i hope they kick his arse out of f1 and ship him back to madrid to drive taxi cabs. ferrari are scum too. i wish they bring back raikkonen. he was boring on the podium and had zero personality, and occasionally lacked motivation to perform, but at least what he won he earned legitimately, not by cheating like that punk alonso. controversy follows him anywhere and everywhere he goes. from the spying scandal at mclaren, to holding teammate hamilton in the pits during qualifying, to ratting out mclaren to the FIA, to the crashgate controversy at renault, to today's race "victory" handed to him via illegal ferrari team orders. not to mention his continuing whining about everything from the law, to the stewards, to the fia, to the media, to his teammates, to his own teams, to the car he is driving. this guy just never shuts up! he is a spoiled brat who expects everything to be handed to him on a golden plate without having to work and earn it. i hope the fia cracks down hard and makes an example out of alonso and ferrari if they expect to retain any credibility for the sport. furthermore, they should outright reject ferrari's pathetic attempts to claim they are complying with the letter of the law by alleging that massa made the decision by himself to let alonso by. race fixing tarnishes the sport and alienates the fans. teams should comply not just with the letter but also the spirit of the law.

as for massa, why is he even still in ferrari? what's in it for him? money? he's not a bad driver. i'm sure many other top tier teams, or even mid level teams for that matter are willing to pay him to drive for them. surely, he can't be a worse driver than button! what else? other teams have slower cars so he won't be able to win races and fight for the wdc? well, he's not able to do that at ferrari either. ferrari clearly only hired him to be a lapdog and play second fiddle to whoever is their star driver, michael schumacher, kimi raikkonen, or fernando alonso. the only occasion ferrari ever supported him was in 2008 and the only reason they did so was because raikkonen sucked so bad he never mounted a challenge for the wdc. if massa wants to advance his career further, he has to leave ferrari. otherwise, he'll become another rubens barrichello.

[Chupacabra]

Originally Posted by Pharmacist

surely, he can't be a worse driver than button!

You cannot claim that Button sucks as a driver, without having to admit that hamilton therefore sucks even more. At least Button wins his championship by more than one point, and without aid from Toyota.


if massa wants to advance his career further, he has to leave ferrari. otherwise, he'll become another rubens barrichello.

Right because Rubens moving away from Ferrari did wonder for his career.


Here is the reality, they both drive for Ferrari... In Ferrari's eyes, the team championship comes first, then the drivers. Alonso has a better chance at winning the championship than Massa, and should out of support move out of the way. He proved his point he can still drive, now support your team mate. The same way kimi supported him in 2008.

If you put them both to fight, you end up with a RBR, both of them are fighting each other and taking each other out and loosing points. Same thing is happening at mclaren, two good drivers, one clearly better than the other, but they do not support each other...


And on Alonso's defense not that i think his attitude is correct, what was he supposed to do with the spy gate saga? keep quite like Wonder bread praying that maybe this way he can actually win a championship? what he did was right.

[kevr6]

Originally Posted by Chupacabra

Right because Rubens moving away from Ferrari did wonder for his career.


Here is the reality, they both drive for Ferrari... In Ferrari's eyes, the team championship comes first, then the drivers. Alonso has a better chance at winning the championship than Massa, and should out of support move out of the way. He proved his point he can still drive, now support your team mate. The same way kimi supported him in 2008.

If you put them both to fight, you end up with a RBR, both of them are fighting each other and taking each other out and loosing points. Same thing is happening at mclaren, two good drivers, one clearly better than the other, but they do not support each other...


And on Alonso's defense not that i think his attitude is correct, what was he supposed to do with the spy gate saga? keep quite like Wonder bread praying that maybe this way he can actually win a championship? what he did was right.

I think the whole reason for the team orders being illegal is so that the fans can see a real race with each driver properly earning their positions. We all understand Ferrari's position and why this all happened.