2021 Formula 1 Thread

JARblue · 12-08-2021, 11:00 AM

Definitely a hater here. I'm generally rooting against various drivers so I find myself rooting for their competitors.

The only drivers I truly like currently are Alonso and Ricciardo. Maybe Kimi, too, because he makes me laugh.

ZCanadian · 12-08-2021, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by fryzia23

Everybody act here like Hamilton and Mercedes are saints. They play dirty games and whine just as much as Red Bull.

At 200+ MPH the line between competitive and dirty is very, very fine!

fryzia23 · 12-08-2021, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ZCanadian

At 200+ MPH the line between competitive and dirty is very, very fine!

Remember silverstone? Who was leading and who was overtaking who on the corner where you should not be overtaking? Someone ended up on the wall at 50g and and the other won the race.

ZontheRocks · 12-08-2021, 12:51 PM

I am just here waiting for 2022 to see what Charlie and Carlito can do with Ferrari out of the "secret penalty".

ZCanadian · 12-08-2021, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ZontheRocks

I am just here waiting for 2022 to see what Charlie and Carlito can do with Ferrari out of the "secret penalty".

With everything but the PU being brand new, who knows. Alfa and Williams might kill it and leave everyone else in the dust.

(well, I can dream, can't I???)

abm89 · 12-08-2021, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by fryzia23

Remember silverstone? Who was leading and who was overtaking who on the corner where you should not be overtaking? Someone ended up on the wall at 50g and and the other won the race.

Here we go judging an incident based on the end result and not the action itself. Max cut over and Lewis backed out too late. There is no such thing as a corner you "should not" overtake in. Please sit down.

abm89 · 12-08-2021, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ZontheRocks

I am just here waiting for 2022 to see what Charlie and Carlito can do with Ferrari out of the "secret penalty".

Arguably the most sus out of everything that's happened in the Hybrid Era.

DLSTR · 12-08-2021, 03:27 PM

No driver is a saint in F1.
But for real wheel to wheel skill because its certainly NOT Max -review FA defending against LH in Budapest this summer.

Max is simple - dive in on either side after braking late. In a lessor car and team - he's out of a job by now. He is severly over rated in wheel to wheel finesse and is the least strategic driver in a top team

You win with wins and points. You get those by finishing.

Hotrodz · 12-08-2021, 05:51 PM

LMAO! Hate is a strong word and yes it is out there. I have made it known who I am rooting for. That said I give Max his do where it is deserved. Lewis represents a lot more to me than him being the best driver of all times. Max represents next and the return to the same as before. His is young and his face is the color of the majority! Just like golf, many hated Tiger as he got closer to Jack's record. Many hated Mohammed Ali for being the greatest of all time. Max needs Lewis more than the other way around. His march to the pinnacle of F1 would not have the flair it does, if there is no Lewis. Hate him, no but I don't have to like him either.

As for Red Bull vs MB, let the fire rage. Multi-billion dollar companies battling for supremacy, come on now! That is just funny to get jacked up over that. All things are fair as long as you can get away with it. I have said it before. If you ain't cheating, you ain't winning. Everyone is looking for an edge. RB should have won this thing months ago. The winner in the RB saga is Vettel. He left at the perfect time and until Max wins four championships, Vettel is the greatest RB driver in their history.

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ZCanadian · 12-08-2021, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by fryzia23

Remember silverstone? Who was leading and who was overtaking who on the corner where you should not be overtaking? Someone ended up on the wall at 50g and and the other won the race.

Yup, no overtaking possible in Copse...

Spooler · 12-08-2021, 09:27 PM

That was awesome^^^^^

DLSTR · 12-10-2021, 04:09 PM

Pirelli fears Qatar GP repeat on "aggressive" new Abu Dhabi F1 track kerbs
By: Adam Cooper
Dec 10, 2021, 12:10 PM
Pirelli Formula 1 boss Mario Isola admits he has concerns about aggressive new kerbs on the modified Abu Dhabi track.

The Italian company has put an extra focus on kerbs since the Qatar GP, where four drivers suffered similar failures in the race.

Pirelli later determined that the failures resulted from drivers consistently running over and back across kerbs during long stints in the race, which is why the problem hadn't been apparent after practice.

While acknowledging that the exact circumstances are different in Abu Dhabi, Isola noted that the kerbs on the exit of the two redesigned corners are of particular concern.

He intends to discuss the matter with FIA race director Michael Masi on Friday evening.

"They are very similar [to Qatar], they are not exactly the same." he said. "Especially they are quite aggressive at the exit of Turn 5 and Turn 9.

"They are the most aggressive. From Turns 1 to 4 they are the same as last year, and then we are different kerbs Turns 12, 13, 14, 15. The exit of Turn 16 is the same as the last year. So we have differences compared to this year, and they are more aggressive.

"There are also different kerbs on the apex of the corners, but obviously the apex is different. First of all, because you have the unloaded tyres on the car that are on the apex.

"And second because the drivers can manage not to run too much on the apex, while I am more worried about the exit kerbs, especially in Turns 5 and 9, that are the most aggressive.

"We saw from free practice both in F2 and F1 that they are running especially over the kerbs and the exit of Turn 9, that is also the turn with the highest speed.

"And I'm sure that in qualifying they will use the kerbs and maybe also during the race if the race if they push during the races. So there is this element that we have to consider.

"Clearly we have a different situation compared to Qatar, it's a different speed, it's a different time they stay over the kerb, but it is in any case, something we have to consider, and we have to pay attention."

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/pi...kerbs/6871344/

alcheng · 12-11-2021, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ZCanadian

Yup, no overtaking possible in Copse...

gonna miss Kimi

Spooler · 12-11-2021, 01:51 PM

When does it start? 11am EST on ESPN2?

abm89 · 12-11-2021, 06:29 PM

I may need to just sleep through the finale. My stress levels won't be able to take it.

12-08-2021, 11:00 AM	#811 (permalink)
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DLSTR A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: Süd Germany Posts: 2,462 Drives: 21Supra 2.0/22 M240i Rep Power: 21267	No driver is a saint in F1. But for real wheel to wheel skill because its certainly NOT Max -review FA defending against LH in Budapest this summer. Max is simple - dive in on either side after braking late. In a lessor car and team - he's out of a job by now. He is severly over rated in wheel to wheel finesse and is the least strategic driver in a top team You win with wins and points. You get those by finishing. Hotrodz likes this.

12-08-2021, 05:51 PM	#819 (permalink)
Hotrodz Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NW, AZ Posts: 9,330 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z Nismo Rep Power: 2684384	LMAO! Hate is a strong word and yes it is out there. I have made it known who I am rooting for. That said I give Max his do where it is deserved. Lewis represents a lot more to me than him being the best driver of all times. Max represents next and the return to the same as before. His is young and his face is the color of the majority! Just like golf, many hated Tiger as he got closer to Jack's record. Many hated Mohammed Ali for being the greatest of all time. Max needs Lewis more than the other way around. His march to the pinnacle of F1 would not have the flair it does, if there is no Lewis. Hate him, no but I don't have to like him either. As for Red Bull vs MB, let the fire rage. Multi-billion dollar companies battling for supremacy, come on now! That is just funny to get jacked up over that. All things are fair as long as you can get away with it. I have said it before. If you ain't cheating, you ain't winning. Everyone is looking for an edge. RB should have won this thing months ago. The winner in the RB saga is Vettel. He left at the perfect time and until Max wins four championships, Vettel is the greatest RB driver in their history. Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk JARblue and ZontheRocks like this. __________________ *Fast Intentions TT Installed and Tuned by Seb at SpecialtyZ 610whp 560tq:\|Fast Intentions 3" TT-TDX*\|SpecialtyZ/Fast Intentions 72 Row Oil Cooler\|SZ 6 Puck Clutch & Flywheel\|3GsCustoms\|Z1\|Wavetrac\|Hotchkis\|Whiteline \|Blitz\|Fortune Auto 500\|Fujimura\|SPL\|H&R\|TK\|TWM\|RPM Rollbar\|Sparco\|Next Level Performance\|TrackSpec\|AeroFlow Dynamics\|Pioneer\|

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12-10-2021, 04:09 PM	#822 (permalink)
DLSTR A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: Süd Germany Posts: 2,462 Drives: 21Supra 2.0/22 M240i Rep Power: 21267	Pirelli fears Qatar GP repeat on "aggressive" new Abu Dhabi F1 track kerbs By: Adam Cooper Dec 10, 2021, 12:10 PM Pirelli Formula 1 boss Mario Isola admits he has concerns about aggressive new kerbs on the modified Abu Dhabi track. The Italian company has put an extra focus on kerbs since the Qatar GP, where four drivers suffered similar failures in the race. Pirelli later determined that the failures resulted from drivers consistently running over and back across kerbs during long stints in the race, which is why the problem hadn't been apparent after practice. While acknowledging that the exact circumstances are different in Abu Dhabi, Isola noted that the kerbs on the exit of the two redesigned corners are of particular concern. He intends to discuss the matter with FIA race director Michael Masi on Friday evening. "They are very similar [to Qatar], they are not exactly the same." he said. "Especially they are quite aggressive at the exit of Turn 5 and Turn 9. "They are the most aggressive. From Turns 1 to 4 they are the same as last year, and then we are different kerbs Turns 12, 13, 14, 15. The exit of Turn 16 is the same as the last year. So we have differences compared to this year, and they are more aggressive. "There are also different kerbs on the apex of the corners, but obviously the apex is different. First of all, because you have the unloaded tyres on the car that are on the apex. "And second because the drivers can manage not to run too much on the apex, while I am more worried about the exit kerbs, especially in Turns 5 and 9, that are the most aggressive. "We saw from free practice both in F2 and F1 that they are running especially over the kerbs and the exit of Turn 9, that is also the turn with the highest speed. "And I'm sure that in qualifying they will use the kerbs and maybe also during the race if the race if they push during the races. So there is this element that we have to consider. "Clearly we have a different situation compared to Qatar, it's a different speed, it's a different time they stay over the kerb, but it is in any case, something we have to consider, and we have to pay attention." https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/pi...kerbs/6871344/ God-Speed, Hotrodz and ZCanadian like this.

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