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Originally Posted by Zingston Or we just accept that we'll all be exposed to it at some point and return to our normal routines knowing that 1% probably wont make

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Old 03-23-2020, 09:07 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Or we just accept that we'll all be exposed to it at some point and return to our normal routines knowing that 1% probably wont make it. I mean, it's that, or purposely tank the world economy with ineffective measures to avoid the 1% issue, which I'm sure is unavoidable anyway. Hard choices indeed, but it's time to choose the better of the two evils. Unfortunately, life doesn't always have a Hollywood ending.

We're all gonna die at some point bitches!!!

Ok, enough gloom n doom... rock on dudes!
A colleague of my wife lives in Hubei province in China.
He reported today that his (very large) city is returning to normal now after 7 weeks of complete lockdown (no going out at all, except one person per household once a week to pick up food from government supply). 7 weeks without even being allowed out to exercise or walk the dog. But it appears that this sacrifice has saved lives in the long run and shortened the pain. It can be done, but isn’t easy, and takes combined commitment for the greater good.

Those pop-up mega hospitals in Wuhan have reportedly all closed.
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A colleague of my wife lives in Hubei province in China.
He reported today that his (very large) city is returning to normal now after 7 weeks of complete lockdown (no going out at all, except one person per household once a week to pick up food from government supply). 7 weeks without even being allowed out to exercise or walk the dog. But it appears that this sacrifice has saved lives in the long run and shortened the pain. It can be done, but isn’t easy, and takes combined commitment for the greater good.

Those pop-up mega hospitals in Wuhan have reportedly all closed.

The virus has not been eradicated. I hope the best for Wuhan, but the virus can easily return. We may have witnessed the first of a series of lockdowns. I hope I'm wrong. Either we find a cure, or we all just have to deal with a new virus among us.
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The virus has not been eradicated. I hope the best for Wuhan, but the virus can easily return. We may have witnessed the first of a series of lockdowns. I hope I'm wrong. Either we find a cure, or we all just have to deal with a new virus among us.
There was a report that despite the number of the infected is going down (supposedly anyway), there is a good chance of a 2nd wave coming.

France needs to hurry up with the malaria vaccine cure, and/or the US needs to get the ball rolling on this too.



And I honestly don't care about olympics, but that's just my opinion.
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There was a report that despite the number of the infected is going down (supposedly anyway), there is a good chance of a 2nd wave coming.

France needs to hurry up with the malaria vaccine cure, and/or the US needs to get the ball rolling on this too.



And I honestly don't care about olympics, but that's just my opinion.
There is already reports coming out of Wuhan of a 2nd wave starting. The Spanish flu lasted a few years. It had a couple of waves to it.
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There is already reports coming out of Wuhan of a 2nd wave starting. The Spanish flu lasted a few years. It had a couple of waves to it.
What really irks me is that we (as a society and world) can send people/machines to the moon and beyond, but we can't figure out how to cure diseases
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What really irks me is that we (as a society and world) can send people/machines to the moon and beyond, but we can't figure out how to cure diseases
Mother nature is hard to figure out.
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There is already reports coming out of Wuhan of a 2nd wave starting. The Spanish flu lasted a few years. It had a couple of waves to it.
Definitely not eradicated. But brought to a point where it can be better controlled.

There might be waves of virus, followed by further periods of isolation to knock it back until a cure or vaccine can be made widely available. But with most now aware of the potential return and taking precautions to limit spread (social distancing, hygene)

Spanish Flu was bad in April and May 1918 and then slowed significantly in the summer only to re-emerge in the fall (October 1918 was the deadliest month).

There is no guarantee that Covid-19 will respond similarly, but it's a useful guide.

Some quick math:
It's said that without limiting social contact, an infected individual will go on to infect on average 3 more people.

Running that scenario out 6 generations of contact, that one person is responsible for making 1,092 others sick.

Social distancing and limiting interactions is supposed to cut the infection rate in half - each person infects only 1.5 others.

After 6 iterations of that, only 31 people have caught the virus.

Major difference!
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Definitely not eradicated. But brought to a point where it can be better controlled.

There might be waves of virus, followed by further periods of isolation to knock it back until a cure or vaccine can be made widely available. But with most now aware of the potential return and taking precautions to limit spread (social distancing, hygene)

Spanish Flu was bad in April and May 2018 and then slowed significantly in the summer only to re-emerge in the fall (October 2018 was the deadliest month).

There is no guarantee that Covid-19 will respond similarly, but it's a useful guide.

Some quick math:
It's said that without limiting social contact, an infected individual will go on to infect on average 3 more people.

Running that scenario out 6 generations of contact, that one person is responsible for making 1,092 others sick.

Social distancing and limiting interactions is supposed to cut the infection rate in half - each person infects only 1.5 others.

After 6 iterations of that, only 31 people have caught the virus.

Major difference!
The numbers i saw was 1 to 14 to start with. Right now, the numbers are doubling every 3.5 days. 100,000 to 200,000, to 400,000, to 800,000. Predicted 1 million by end of the month world wide.
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The numbers i saw was 1 to 14 to start with. Right now, the numbers are doubling every 3.5 days. 100,000 to 200,000, to 400,000, to 800,000. Predicted 1 million by end of the month world wide.
Keep in mind that numbers are increasing more quickly partly because there have finally been intensive efforts to start to identify cases by means of assessment and tests. Not necessarily that the spread is that quick. We’re still behind the total, but have we now identified 10% of the actual number of cases, 20%, or 40%?
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I am quite certain you meant to say 1918 and not 2018

Excellent points. Minimizing exponential exposure is not only critical, but actually possible.
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I am quite certain you meant to say 1918 and not 2018

Excellent points. Minimizing exponential exposure is not only critical, but actually possible.
OOPS.

And yes, as I'm sure you've read elsewhere....

THIS IS THE ONLY TIME IN HISTORY THAT MANKIND HAS EVER BEEN CALLED UPON TO SAVE CIVILIZATION BY STAYING AT HOME SITTING ON THE COUCH. LET'S NOT SCREW THIS UP!

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