Formula-1 2017...!!

Hotrodz · 09-18-2017, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by axmea?

it was rough. despite what's showing we see it differently. no one's going to give up that corner 'cause that's the winning corner with such a tight track. Kimi's launch was terrific but both reds converged to pin down #33. bottom line it was an ugly race. a good chunk of the field retired.

I'm not sure it would have made a difference. By Vettel's own admission he did not get a good start so he made the move to keep Max behind him. It was a risky move even if the track was dry but not so smart on wet surface with cold tire. Vettel doesn't deserve to win his judgement and track behavior this year is not worthy of champion.

DLSTR · 09-18-2017, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz

I'm not sure it would have made a difference. By Vettel's own admission he did not get a good start so he made the move to keep Max behind him. It was a risky move even if the track was dry but not so smart on wet surface with cold tire. Vettel doesn't deserve to win his judgement and track behavior this year is not worthy of champion.

+1 he is by far the least level headed multi WDC winner. LH is eating his lunch and Ferrari have a well balanced car and because of Baku and this, they are now faves to lose both titles to Mercedes. No loss. Vettel is a brat who ran from Ricci at Red Bull when Ricci trounced him after his last title. Vettel is severely over rated in my opinion. Im no LH fan but this year Vettel is still fkn it up in a better car.

alcheng · 09-18-2017, 11:59 AM

suddenly, I have this picture pops up in my mind....

it's been saying Vettel didn't see Raikkonen, whose already side by side with Verstappen..

what IF... Verstappen back off...

and Vettel keeps moving to the left... til he has Raikkonen....

DLSTR · 09-18-2017, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by alcheng

suddenly, I have this picture pops up in my mind....

it's been saying Vettel didn't see Raikkonen, whose already side by side with Verstappen..

what IF... Verstappen back off...

and Vettel keeps moving to the left... til he has Raikkonen....

The trajectory shows there is a very good chance they collide if Max brakes out and slows quickly. Vettel was entirely focused on Max and not the corner. Fool!!

alcheng · 09-18-2017, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DLSTR

The trajectory shows there is a very good chance they collide if Max brakes out and slows quickly. Vettel was entirely focused on Max and not the corner. Fool!!

vettel is just too desperate.

cooltoy · 09-18-2017, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by alcheng

regardless whose fault...

if you were in verstappen's position, will you lift thus avoiding the squeeze?

of cos you don't want to lose the position but you know things gonna go bad if you don't lift.

i would have lifted then fight back.

yes, it's true vettel was moving towards verstappen..

but, verstappen's also moved towards raikkonen....

in fact, he squeezed into raikkonen's right-rear first, at that moment, there's still quite a bit of room between himself and vettel..

I am always up for it,when it comes time to blame Verstappen.

DLSTR · 09-18-2017, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by alcheng

vettel is just too desperate.

He had 61 laps and a track that was going to dry out to fight back to get P1 back from Max. He was not going to be under real threat in my opinion. Not the first time at all he misjudged badly something like this. Vettel is fast but his race craft is not comparable to others including Ricci and Alonso.

alcheng · 09-18-2017, 02:27 PM

but on the other hand, vettel's move is nothing new in racing.

i believe everyone will agree hamilton has done it for tons of time to rosberg in the pass 2-3 years.

I am not a fan of either vettel and verstappen.

if you look at the video again, there's still quite some gap between vettel and verstappen when he ran into raikkonen.

DLSTR · 09-19-2017, 12:36 PM

Nice review and analysis here of Singapore - Sebastian Vettel misjudgements put Lewis Hamilton on F1 title track | F1 News

DLSTR · 09-19-2017, 12:36 PM

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/13...ash-on-himself

Villeneuve: Vettel brought Singapore GP crash on himself

DLSTR · 09-26-2017, 01:50 PM

Nice preview of this weekend's race in Malaysia!!

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/13...d-prix-preview

DLSTR · 09-27-2017, 01:35 PM

Another good link from Autosport as we approach the final races - https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/13...f1-title-runin

MaysEffect · 09-27-2017, 11:23 PM

Open question to all.

Has anyone lodged any complaints to liberty media or F1 alone on updates and changes you'd like to see?

One i'd like is the introduction of mandated helmet cams. Indy car and some other series are already running helmet cams on several drivers, but not mandated.

This visual aspect would be beneficial on both the social media side as well as safety side.

DLSTR · 09-30-2017, 12:52 AM

Sepang race weekend. This link is working if you want actual good coverage from SKY F1 - and Practice 3 is about to start!

Watch SkySports F1 | SkyF1 | Sky Sports F1 | Sky F1 Live Stream Online

alcheng · 09-30-2017, 02:57 PM

top 3 on the grid filled with the top 3 cars, with one gutsy verstappen starting at 3rd place, and the squeezing right-left at the end of the straightaway.

the start's gonna be a...... do or die.

09-18-2017, 11:59 AM	#198 (permalink)
alcheng A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Toronto Posts: 28,893 Drives: 2011 ZR PW w/Clutch Rep Power: 418352	suddenly, I have this picture pops up in my mind.... it's been saying Vettel didn't see Raikkonen, whose already side by side with Verstappen.. what IF... Verstappen back off... and Vettel keeps moving to the left... til he has Raikkonen.... axmea? likes this.

09-19-2017, 12:36 PM	#204 (permalink)
DLSTR A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: Süd Germany Posts: 2,462 Drives: 21Supra 2.0/22 M240i Rep Power: 21266	Nice review and analysis here of Singapore - Sebastian Vettel misjudgements put Lewis Hamilton on F1 title track \| F1 News Hotrodz likes this.

09-19-2017, 12:36 PM	#205 (permalink)
DLSTR A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: Süd Germany Posts: 2,462 Drives: 21Supra 2.0/22 M240i Rep Power: 21266	https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/13...ash-on-himself Villeneuve: Vettel brought Singapore GP crash on himself Hotrodz and MaysEffect like this.

09-26-2017, 01:50 PM	#206 (permalink)
DLSTR A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: Süd Germany Posts: 2,462 Drives: 21Supra 2.0/22 M240i Rep Power: 21266	Nice preview of this weekend's race in Malaysia!! https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/13...d-prix-preview Hotrodz likes this.

09-27-2017, 01:35 PM	#207 (permalink)
DLSTR A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: Süd Germany Posts: 2,462 Drives: 21Supra 2.0/22 M240i Rep Power: 21266	Another good link from Autosport as we approach the final races - https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/13...f1-title-runin Hotrodz likes this.

09-18-2017, 02:27 PM	#203 (permalink)
alcheng A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Toronto Posts: 28,893 Drives: 2011 ZR PW w/Clutch Rep Power: 418352	but on the other hand, vettel's move is nothing new in racing. i believe everyone will agree hamilton has done it for tons of time to rosberg in the pass 2-3 years. I am not a fan of either vettel and verstappen. if you look at the video again, there's still quite some gap between vettel and verstappen when he ran into raikkonen.

09-27-2017, 11:23 PM	#208 (permalink)
MaysEffect Enthusiast Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: SoCal Age: 31 Posts: 383 Drives: Infiniti FX35 Rep Power: 35	Open question to all. Has anyone lodged any complaints to liberty media or F1 alone on updates and changes you'd like to see? One i'd like is the introduction of mandated helmet cams. Indy car and some other series are already running helmet cams on several drivers, but not mandated. This visual aspect would be beneficial on both the social media side as well as safety side.

09-30-2017, 12:52 AM	#209 (permalink)
DLSTR A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: Süd Germany Posts: 2,462 Drives: 21Supra 2.0/22 M240i Rep Power: 21266	Sepang race weekend. This link is working if you want actual good coverage from SKY F1 - and Practice 3 is about to start! Watch SkySports F1 \| SkyF1 \| Sky Sports F1 \| Sky F1 Live Stream Online

09-30-2017, 02:57 PM	#210 (permalink)
alcheng A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Toronto Posts: 28,893 Drives: 2011 ZR PW w/Clutch Rep Power: 418352	top 3 on the grid filled with the top 3 cars, with one gutsy verstappen starting at 3rd place, and the squeezing right-left at the end of the straightaway. the start's gonna be a...... do or die. DLSTR and axmea? like this.

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