Thoughts on Z1 Motorsports

DElrose91 · 05-11-2015, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by thompsontechs

Sorry to hear about your problem buddy, at times even the best fall short of the mark. I think it might warrant a caution note in the package. I did SS lines on mine too.

JT

Thanks for your support. Yes i agree, i would most definitely urge others to get the lines as well. I dont want anyone going through what im going through with these brakes. I just want them on my car already! They are painted pearl white too they look beautiful on the carImageUploadedByTapatalk1431354780.043051.jpg

DEpointfive0 · 05-11-2015, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by DElrose91

Thanks for your support. Yes i agree, i would most definitely urge others to get the lines as well. I dont want anyone going through what im going through with these brakes. I just want them on my car already! They are painted pearl white too they look beautiful on the carAttachment 103354

Nice

And I assume you mean the discs rust? If so, don't worry about it. At all. Once you bed your pads in they won't rust as quick

JARblue · 05-11-2015, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0

Nice

And I assume you mean the discs rust? If so, don't worry about it. At all. Once you bed your pads in they won't rust as quick

The slots will show rust pretty quick if they are exposed to rain or when the car is washed. The only thing I might suggest is painting the slots in the surface of the rotor with hi-temp black paint before installation.

tommyguns · 05-11-2015, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

I know this probably doesn't help you now, but every conversation with Z1 I've ever had regarding the banjo bolts ended with them saying they are a pain in the a$$ and just another potential leak point. They even recommended I buy the less expensive, non-premium SS brakes lines for my Akebonos because the banjo bolts are removed entirely.

This statement puts a whole different light on Z1 IMO. Sounds like a sales meeting is in order to insure that all sales associates are aware of this issue and can recommend accordingly. I'm not bashing Z1, but if it's a known issue and they failed to alert the customer to the situation it falls on them to do a better job communicating. Does this mean that their responsible, absolutely NOT. The second you had an issue you should have packed them up and sent them back.
That all being said, I think Z1 could step up and give him a little sugar to sweeten a deal on a new set. Again this is all just my opinion, I've had nothing but good dealings with Z1.

DEpointfive0 · 05-11-2015, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by tommyguns

This statement puts a whole different light on Z1 IMO. Sounds like a sales meeting is in order to insure that all sales associates are aware of this issue and can recommend accordingly. I'm not bashing Z1, but if it's a known issue and they failed to alert the customer to the situation it falls on them to do a better job communicating. Does this mean that their responsible, absolutely NOT. The second you had an issue you should have packed them up and sent them back.
That all being said, I think Z1 could step up and give him a little sugar to sweeten a deal on a new set. Again this is all just my opinion, I've had nothing but good dealings with Z1.

I've never had any member of Z1 tell me the premium lines are better. They always have said they're prone to leaks if not installed correctly.

The thing is. I can't blame Z1 for making them. The customer is always right, right? Lol
So customers want OEM looking lines. And in the OEM place. They get what they want.

JARblue · 05-11-2015, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0

I've never had any member of Z1 tell me the premium lines are better. They always have said they're prone to leaks if not installed correctly.

This is the key.

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0

The thing is. I can't blame Z1 for making them. The customer is always right, right? Lol

So customers want OEM looking lines. And in the OEM place. They get what they want.

lol it's not their fault some people are stupid

Trips · 05-11-2015, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by tommyguns

This statement puts a whole different light on Z1 IMO. Sounds like a sales meeting is in order to insure that all sales associates are aware of this issue and can recommend accordingly. I'm not bashing Z1, but if it's a known issue and they failed to alert the customer to the situation it falls on them to do a better job communicating. Does this mean that their responsible, absolutely NOT. The second you had an issue you should have packed them up and sent them back.
That all being said, I think Z1 could step up and give him a little sugar to sweeten a deal on a new set. Again this is all just my opinion, I've had nothing but good dealings with Z1.

I pretty much agree here.

Not much I can do to help here, But I've Pm'd Z1/John to see "IF" there's anything they can do to help!

I personally wouldn't hold my breath under these circumstances. imo

SurfDog · 05-11-2015, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by wanker

Never had anything but good experiences with Z1; and their customer service if very responsive.

+1

Meulen · 05-11-2015, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

This is the key.

I've got the premium lines. Installed them myself. They were "finicky" I was nervous to over-tighten them. They just didn't feel safe to crank down on. I basically had to tighten them slowly till they quit leaking.

I've also had a customer service problem with Z1. They sent me the wrong oil cooler lines. I sent them numerous pics for proof and to this day they never sent me new ones. They assured me it would be fine being the one was too long. So now I have a looped oil cooler line because of the extra slack. They are right it isn't crucial, but still isn't right. However, in this case, I couldn't blame them for not helping with the brake lines after you modified them.

I've just chalked up my one bad experience to being a fluke. I've got other products of theirs on my car and they are just fine. Most people don't have any problems with them, but I'll still have my case in the back of my mind when I think about purchases.

DElrose91 · 05-11-2015, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by tommyguns

This statement puts a whole different light on Z1 IMO. Sounds like a sales meeting is in order to insure that all sales associates are aware of this issue and can recommend accordingly. I'm not bashing Z1, but if it's a known issue and they failed to alert the customer to the situation it falls on them to do a better job communicating. Does this mean that their responsible, absolutely NOT. The second you had an issue you should have packed them up and sent them back.
That all being said, I think Z1 could step up and give him a little sugar to sweeten a deal on a new set. Again this is all just my opinion, I've had nothing but good dealings with Z1.

I completely agree with you. Im concerned because a few people on here have been advised by z1 to upgrade the lines. Ive spoken to them many times about this and no one has ever mentioned to me that people have problems with the bolts. They make it seem like they never heard of this issue before. If they would have just said the first time i called "yea, a lot of people have this problem, if you get the ss brake lines this will help" I would have saved a lot of time money and effort.

DElrose91 · 05-11-2015, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Trips

I pretty much agree here.

Not much I can do to help here, But I've Pm'd Z1/John to see "IF" there's anything they can do to help!

I personally wouldn't hold my breath under these circumstances. imo

Thank you Trips I appreciate your help. Just want my brakes on already!

JARblue · 05-11-2015, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DElrose91

I completely agree with you. Im concerned because a few people on here have been advised by z1 to upgrade the lines. Ive spoken to them many times about this and no one has ever mentioned to me that people have problems with the bolts. They make it seem like they never heard of this issue before. If they would have just said the first time i called "yea, a lot of people have this problem, if you get the ss brake lines this will help" I would have saved a lot of time money and effort.

I would like to just be clear and say that Z1 never recommended that I upgrade my brake lines to SS. I was in the market for SS brake lines and asked them some questions regarding the premium vs non-premium versions they sell. They were very honest and even recommended the less expensive, non-premium version because of those troublesome banjo bolts.

Too bad they didn't mention this you the first time. Though, I would be hesitant to blame them too much for that. You bought the whole Akebono upgrade, so their support concerns would be more along the lines of 'will your wheels clear the new calipers' and such. The banjo bolts are a known problem for many that have worked on them. If you had asked Z1 about SS lines specifically, I expect they would have steered you away from them.

Regardless, I hope you get everything sorted out and get those beautiful calipers installed asap

DElrose91 · 05-11-2015, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

I would like to just be clear and say that Z1 never recommended that I upgrade my brake lines to SS. I was in the market for SS brake lines and asked them some questions regarding the premium vs non-premium versions they sell. They were very honest and even recommended the less expensive, non-premium version because of those troublesome banjo bolts.

Too bad they didn't mention this you the first time. Though, I would be hesitant to blame them too much for that. You bought the whole Akebono upgrade, so their support concerns would be more along the lines of 'will your wheels clear the new calipers' and such. The banjo bolts are a known problem for many that have worked on them. If you had asked Z1 about SS lines specifically, I expect they would have steered you away from them.

Regardless, I hope you get everything sorted out and get those beautiful calipers installed asap

If i recall, when i ordered the whole kit i asked them if i should get brake lines or could i use stock? They said if ur gonna use stock you would need special banjo bolts, so i asked if its recommended. I remember them telling me id be fine with the banjo bolts. Whatever i dont blame them for not recommending it, i guess i should have done my research. But i dont like how they act like they never heard of any problems with the bolts. Anyways thanks for the feed back hopefully i get them on soon, ill be sure to post pics

JARblue · 05-11-2015, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DElrose91

If i recall, when i ordered the whole kit i asked them if i should get brake lines or could i use stock? They said if ur gonna use stock you would need special banjo bolts, so i asked if its recommended. I remember them telling me id be fine with the banjo bolts. Whatever i dont blame them for not recommending it, i guess i should have done my research. But i dont like how they act like they never heard of any problems with the bolts. Anyways thanks for the feed back hopefully i get them on soon, ill be sure to post pics

Unfortunate man. But yeah. A little research on your part would have prepared you, at least a little, for what you encountered. The issues I read about on this forum were part of the reason it was several years before I purchased some

Mike · 05-11-2015, 07:30 PM

when you order new ones, tell them I will take care of the repowdercoating at no charge for you. (I do their powdercoating, and coated those for you)

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