is it possible to ask the forum members about ACA without being political???

[Chuck33079]

Originally Posted by andre12031948

Good one^^^^ Compromise/update it "Obamacare" ????

It's pretty much a copy/paste of Mitt Romney's plan when he was the governor of Mass, with features dating back to plans put forward by both Democrats and Republicans. Obamacare is what the far right calls it because they're uninformed of the origins of the plan.

[andre12031948]

Originally Posted by Chuck33079

It's pretty much a copy/paste of Mitt Romney's plan when he was the governor of Mass, with features dating back to plans put forward by both Democrats and Republicans. Obamacare is what the far right calls it because they're uninformed of the origins of the plan.

Like I said before, I don't want to go there^^^^ "fault" "blame" "

[Chuck33079]

Originally Posted by andre12031948

Like I said before, I don't want to go there^^^^ "fault" "blame" "

I'm not applying fault or blame, I'm correcting you from using "Obamacare".

[SouthArk370Z]

Originally Posted by Chuck33079

I'm not applying fault or blame, I'm correcting you from using "Obamacare".

Seeing as POTUS has been the main driving force behind ACA, I think it's fair to call it Obamacare. It may not be an original idea of his but he is the star of the show for this go-around. 'Most everyone I know - left, right, and in-between - calls it Obamacare. Not to be derisive, but just because the name fits. A rose by any other name...

[Chuck33079]

Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z

Seeing as POTUS has been the main driving force behind ACA, I think it's fair to call it Obamacare. It may not be an original idea of his but he is the star of the show for this go-around. 'Most everyone I know - left, right, and in-between - calls it Obamacare. Not to be derisive, but just because the name fits. A rose by any other name...

That's true, but a lot of people seem to be running around with the idea Obama came up with it all on his own.

[SouthArk370Z]

Originally Posted by Chuck33079

That's true, but a lot of people seem to be running around with the idea Obama came up with it all on his own.

meh Socialized/universal health care is nothing new. Been around since long before Romney. If ppl want to believe it's Obama's idea, let 'em.

[Chuck33079]

Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z

meh Socialized/universal health care is nothing new. Been around since long before Romney. If ppl want to believe it's Obama's idea, let 'em.

If he really wanted socialized health care, it would be single payer. This is a gimme to insurance companies and big pharma.

[andre12031948]

What's the difference if we bought & paid for private care ourselves last year & today making payments to Obamacare????

Besides not having the govt. involved/getting bigger, & having the problems enrolling on line. Oh, also having a $500 deductible instead of a $5,000 deductible. AGAIN, I'm failing in understanding this whole thing.

Just remembered(honest) Now we'll pay more for others that don't work to have/share our health care plan. Very nice....

[Chuck33079]

Originally Posted by andre12031948

What's the difference if we bought & paid for private care ourselves last year & today making payments to Obamacare????

Besides not having the govt. involved/getting bigger, & having the problems enrolling on line. Oh, also having a $500 deductible instead of a $5,000 deductible. AGAIN, I'm failing in understanding this whole thing.

Just remembered(honest) Now we'll pay more for others that don't work to have/share our health care plan. Very nice....

If you have insurance already, then you already have insurance and this doesn't effect you, other than possible premium changes. You don't make payments to Obamacare, you make payments to an insurance company. Just like you did before the ACA.

[Cmike2780]

Originally Posted by andre12031948

What's the difference if we bought & paid for private care ourselves last year & today making payments to Obamacare????

Besides not having the govt. involved/getting bigger, & having the problems enrolling on line. Oh, also having a $500 deductible instead of a $5,000 deductible. AGAIN, I'm failing in understanding this whole thing.

Just remembered(honest) Now we'll pay more for others that don't work to have/share our health care plan. Very nice....

https://www.healthcare.gov/

You should really look at what the ACA does before passing any claims.
-the enrolling problems are due to high traffic. It basically means a lot of people are either enrolling or logging on to the site.
-The deductible depends on coverage and insurance carrier. You can't compare someone's insurance with currently a $500 deductible to one with a $5,000 deductible because the two are nowhere near the same level of coverage. The high deductible level will likely apply to those who'll need insurance for catastrophic care. In reality, this is actually a good thing for everyone else. People in this category would likely have been uninsured. If they end up in the hospital with a major illness or injury, they can walk out without spending a dime. I know a lot of people in the medical field and this happens a lot. Your insurance rates are high because the hospitals need to re-coup their losses. Don't you get it? We are already paying more for others. This evens the field by forcing the uninsured to pay in to the pool if they expect to have the same level of care in an emergency as the insured. There is very little effect on those that currently have insurance through their job.