Nissan 370Z Forum  

is it possible to ask the forum members about ACA without being political???

He is trying to make subtle digs at it by acting stupid. Of course when you make a counter, he just shrugs it off.

Go Back   Nissan 370Z Forum > Nissan 370Z General Area > The Lounge (Off Topic) > Politics/War


Like Tree17Likes

 
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-03-2013, 12:02 PM   #1 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
cossie1600's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: californee way
Posts: 5,380
Drives: 370, Leaf
Rep Power: 30
cossie1600 has a reputation beyond reputecossie1600 has a reputation beyond reputecossie1600 has a reputation beyond reputecossie1600 has a reputation beyond reputecossie1600 has a reputation beyond reputecossie1600 has a reputation beyond reputecossie1600 has a reputation beyond reputecossie1600 has a reputation beyond reputecossie1600 has a reputation beyond reputecossie1600 has a reputation beyond reputecossie1600 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

He is trying to make subtle digs at it by acting stupid. Of course when you make a counter, he just shrugs it off.
cossie1600 is offline  
Old 10-03-2013, 12:05 PM   #2 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Chuck33079's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Houston
Posts: 12,265
Drives: 2011 370ztt
Rep Power: 29539
Chuck33079 has a reputation beyond reputeChuck33079 has a reputation beyond reputeChuck33079 has a reputation beyond reputeChuck33079 has a reputation beyond reputeChuck33079 has a reputation beyond reputeChuck33079 has a reputation beyond reputeChuck33079 has a reputation beyond reputeChuck33079 has a reputation beyond reputeChuck33079 has a reputation beyond reputeChuck33079 has a reputation beyond reputeChuck33079 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cossie1600 View Post
He is trying to make subtle digs at it by acting stupid. Of course when you make a counter, he just shrugs it off.
I don't know, I'm getting a strong "Fox news tells me everything I need to know, and Jebus makes my laws" vibe here.
__________________
2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent
Chuck33079 is offline  
Old 10-03-2013, 12:44 PM   #3 (permalink)
Banned
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: monticello new york 127
Posts: 1,095
Drives: 08 350z black 6m/t
Rep Power: 0
andre12031948 has a spectacular aura aboutandre12031948 has a spectacular aura aboutandre12031948 has a spectacular aura about
Default since most 370 owners have jobs, credit, pay their taxes

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chuck33079 View Post
I don't know, I'm getting a strong "Fox news tells me everything I need to know, and Jebus makes my laws" vibe here.
I think I might have many here who have the same questions/concerns that I have.

After some research & calls to my friends at NSA I heard that many low earners & no earners who try to get free XXXXXXX care are diverted/told to go to Medicaid.

It seems that having more people applying for free XXXXXX care than signing on to pay, would not be a good thing.

I thought Medicaid was for people that contribute????

Medicaid or Medicare, who cares, they are going to go bankrupt anyway.

CHUCK don't you pay taxes???

Last edited by andre12031948; 10-03-2013 at 12:47 PM.
andre12031948 is offline  
Old 10-03-2013, 12:50 PM   #4 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Chuck33079's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Houston
Posts: 12,265
Drives: 2011 370ztt
Rep Power: 29539
Chuck33079 has a reputation beyond reputeChuck33079 has a reputation beyond reputeChuck33079 has a reputation beyond reputeChuck33079 has a reputation beyond reputeChuck33079 has a reputation beyond reputeChuck33079 has a reputation beyond reputeChuck33079 has a reputation beyond reputeChuck33079 has a reputation beyond reputeChuck33079 has a reputation beyond reputeChuck33079 has a reputation beyond reputeChuck33079 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by andre12031948 View Post
I think I might have many here who have the same questions/concerns that I have.

After some research & calls to my friends at NSA I heard that many low earners & no earners who try to get free XXXXXXX care are diverted/told to go to Medicaid.

It seems that having more people applying for free XXXXXX care than signing on to pay, would not be a good thing.

I thought Medicaid was for people that contribute????

Medicaid or Medicare, who cares, they are going to go bankrupt anyway.

CHUCK don't you pay taxes???
Full facepalm here. Who's getting anything for free under the ACA? Nothing is free. Medicaid has always been where people with little income go. Nothing new.
__________________
2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent
Chuck33079 is offline  
Old 10-03-2013, 12:54 PM   #5 (permalink)
Banned
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: monticello new york 127
Posts: 1,095
Drives: 08 350z black 6m/t
Rep Power: 0
andre12031948 has a spectacular aura aboutandre12031948 has a spectacular aura aboutandre12031948 has a spectacular aura about
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chuck33079 View Post
Full facepalm here. Who's getting anything for free under the ACA? Nothing is free. Medicaid has always been where people with little income go. Nothing new.
Then why all the past speeches about XXXXXXcare passing so tens of millions of people that can't afford/don't have medical insurance can be covered. Wasn't that the whole point of all this?????
andre12031948 is offline  
Old 10-03-2013, 01:14 PM   #6 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
cossie1600's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: californee way
Posts: 5,380
Drives: 370, Leaf
Rep Power: 30
cossie1600 has a reputation beyond reputecossie1600 has a reputation beyond reputecossie1600 has a reputation beyond reputecossie1600 has a reputation beyond reputecossie1600 has a reputation beyond reputecossie1600 has a reputation beyond reputecossie1600 has a reputation beyond reputecossie1600 has a reputation beyond reputecossie1600 has a reputation beyond reputecossie1600 has a reputation beyond reputecossie1600 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

See what I mean, now it is attacking the poors, leetchers and accuse people for not paying taxes. All coming from someone who has no health insurance
cossie1600 is offline  
Old 10-03-2013, 01:33 PM   #7 (permalink)
Banned
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: monticello new york 127
Posts: 1,095
Drives: 08 350z black 6m/t
Rep Power: 0
andre12031948 has a spectacular aura aboutandre12031948 has a spectacular aura aboutandre12031948 has a spectacular aura about
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cossie1600 View Post
See what I mean, now it is attacking the poors, leetchers and accuse people for not paying taxes. All coming from someone who has no health insurance
I don't think that's what I did or am doing^^^^^

How & where our tax money is spend is as important as what tires are good & how much they cost.

Do you just follow??? Do what you're told????? Don't you think???
andre12031948 is offline  
Old 10-03-2013, 01:38 PM   #8 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Cmike2780's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Long Island
Posts: 5,059
Drives: slowwww
Rep Power: 29
Cmike2780 has a reputation beyond reputeCmike2780 has a reputation beyond reputeCmike2780 has a reputation beyond reputeCmike2780 has a reputation beyond reputeCmike2780 has a reputation beyond reputeCmike2780 has a reputation beyond reputeCmike2780 has a reputation beyond reputeCmike2780 has a reputation beyond reputeCmike2780 has a reputation beyond reputeCmike2780 has a reputation beyond reputeCmike2780 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by andre12031948 View Post
I don't think that's what I did or am doing^^^^^

How & where our tax money is spend is as important as what tires are good & how much they cost.

Do you just follow??? Do what you're told????? Don't you think???
I wouldn't preach about people just "following" when it's pretty clear you're just following what the news pundits say.
__________________
[09][MB][6-Spd MT][Touring][Stillen Gen III][K&N][Borla CBE][Evo-R]

Cmike2780 is offline  
Old 10-03-2013, 01:48 PM   #9 (permalink)
Banned
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: monticello new york 127
Posts: 1,095
Drives: 08 350z black 6m/t
Rep Power: 0
andre12031948 has a spectacular aura aboutandre12031948 has a spectacular aura aboutandre12031948 has a spectacular aura about
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cmike2780 View Post
I wouldn't preach about people just "following" when it's pretty clear you're just following what the news pundits say.
I watch Morning Joe on MSNBC. I think I really know a lot about the world & life. I lived on 4 different continents & I speak more than just English I also have a honorable discharge from the U.S. Navy & go to a VA hospital for psycho help I ain't no dummy Spelling ?????
andre12031948 is offline  
Old 10-03-2013, 02:08 PM   #10 (permalink)
Banned
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: monticello new york 127
Posts: 1,095
Drives: 08 350z black 6m/t
Rep Power: 0
andre12031948 has a spectacular aura aboutandre12031948 has a spectacular aura aboutandre12031948 has a spectacular aura about
Default

I'm off topic. Sorry! After you read it, I'll delete it!!!

Last edited by andre12031948; 10-03-2013 at 03:04 PM. Reason: mistake
andre12031948 is offline  
Old 10-03-2013, 02:33 PM   #11 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
birdmanx1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Baltimore, MD
Age: 96
Posts: 3,175
Drives: 370z Nismo
Rep Power: 24
birdmanx1 has a reputation beyond reputebirdmanx1 has a reputation beyond reputebirdmanx1 has a reputation beyond reputebirdmanx1 has a reputation beyond reputebirdmanx1 has a reputation beyond reputebirdmanx1 has a reputation beyond reputebirdmanx1 has a reputation beyond reputebirdmanx1 has a reputation beyond reputebirdmanx1 has a reputation beyond reputebirdmanx1 has a reputation beyond reputebirdmanx1 has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via MSN to birdmanx1
Default

__________________
370Z NISMO #0462 | ClearBra | 3M tint | Head/Taillights | Dynamat | Black Roof | Tommy Kaira HB | CF Parts | Berk HFCs | FI SS | NST Pulleys | Takeda aFe | K&N | H&R Spacers | Swift Spec R | SPC F&R | Zuperman M370
Nismo Vid | Nismo Journal | Nismo Rumble
birdmanx1 is offline  
Old 10-03-2013, 02:38 PM   #12 (permalink)
Banned
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: monticello new york 127
Posts: 1,095
Drives: 08 350z black 6m/t
Rep Power: 0
andre12031948 has a spectacular aura aboutandre12031948 has a spectacular aura aboutandre12031948 has a spectacular aura about
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by birdmanx1 View Post
Add a little grey & that could be me

There are some people that actually met me in person. Was I that bad? crazy?
birdmanx1 likes this.

Last edited by andre12031948; 10-03-2013 at 02:41 PM.
andre12031948 is offline  
Old 10-03-2013, 03:56 PM   #13 (permalink)
Track Member
 
ElVee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Iowa
Posts: 750
Drives: 13 370z 7at t+s grey
Rep Power: 17
ElVee has a reputation beyond reputeElVee has a reputation beyond reputeElVee has a reputation beyond reputeElVee has a reputation beyond reputeElVee has a reputation beyond reputeElVee has a reputation beyond reputeElVee has a reputation beyond reputeElVee has a reputation beyond reputeElVee has a reputation beyond reputeElVee has a reputation beyond reputeElVee has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by birdmanx1 View Post
...
ElVee is offline  
Old 10-03-2013, 02:45 PM   #14 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
blackcherry20's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Southern Ohio
Posts: 22,749
Drives: ‘17 badazz Z51
Rep Power: 240460
blackcherry20 has a reputation beyond reputeblackcherry20 has a reputation beyond reputeblackcherry20 has a reputation beyond reputeblackcherry20 has a reputation beyond reputeblackcherry20 has a reputation beyond reputeblackcherry20 has a reputation beyond reputeblackcherry20 has a reputation beyond reputeblackcherry20 has a reputation beyond reputeblackcherry20 has a reputation beyond reputeblackcherry20 has a reputation beyond reputeblackcherry20 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

A Q&A our company posted on the intranet.
I particularly like the last bullet under this heading: You may be exempt from the penalty for not maintaining acceptable health insurance coverage if you


Where Can I Obtain Coverage?


You have four options to obtain healthcare coverage:


• Employer Health Plan

• Spouse’s Employer Health Plan, if applicable

• Medicaid, CHIP, or another government sponsored plan

• The “Marketplace” (also known as the “Exchange”)



What is the Penalty if I Do Not Obtain Coverage?


The penalty for not obtaining acceptable health insurance coverage will be phased in over a three-year period. The amount of the penalty is the greater of two amounts—the flat dollar amount and a percentage of income.


• In 2014: the penalty is the greater of $95 per person or up to 1 percent

of income;

• In 2015: the penalty is the greater of $325 per person or up to 2 percent

of income;

• In 2016: the penalty is the greater of $695 per person or up to 2.5 percent

of income.


“Income” is defined as the taxpayer’s household income minus exemptions and standard deductions.


The penalty for children is ½ the amount of an adult.


Calculating the Penalty for Married Couple and Two Children – Example:


Sue and Bob are married and have two children, ages 3 and 6. They are applicable individuals (i.e., no exception applies), and they do not have health insurance for the 2014 tax year. Their combined household income (after exemptions and standard deductions) is $65,000. Their penalty under the flat dollar amount method would be $285 ($95 for Sue, $95 for Bob, and $47.50 for each child). Their penalty under the percentage of income method would be $650 ($65,000 × 1%). The penalty for Sue and Bob for 2014 is $650 (i.e., the greater of the flat dollar method and percentage of income method).



Who is Exempt?


Who is exempt from the individual mandate?


You may be exempt from the penalty for not maintaining acceptable health insurance coverage if you:


• Cannot afford coverage (that is, a required contribution for coverage

would cost more than 8 percent of your household income)

• Have income below the federal income tax filing threshold

• Are a member of certain Indian tribes

• Are given a hardship exemption by the Department of Health and Human

Services (HHS); you must file for and receive a hardship exemption

• Experience a gap in coverage for less than a continuous three-month

period (may only be used once per year)

• Qualify as a religious conscience objector

• Are a member of a health care sharing ministry

• Are incarcerated

Are not a citizen, national or lawfully present in the United States


Financial Assistance



Is there financial assistance for obtaining coverage? Beginning in 2014, federal subsidies will be available to low-income individuals who obtain coverage through the Marketplace.



You may be eligible for a subsidy (tax credit) through the Marketplace if you:



• Generally have household income for the year between 138 percent and

400 percent of the federal poverty line (FPL) for the taxpayer’s family size

• May not be claimed as a tax dependent of another taxpayer

• File a joint return, if married

• Enroll in one or more qualified health plans through an Exchange

• Cannot be eligible for minimum essential coverage (such as coverage

under a government-sponsored program or an eligible employer-

sponsored plan)



Important…I

You are not eligible for a governmental subsidy if your employer provides a plan that meets “minimum value” and is determined to be “affordable” under the Affordable Care Act. Your employer will advise you through a Notice issued on or before Oct. 1 if your employer health plan meets these criteria.
__________________
Grand Sport Corvette Arctic White
blackcherry20 is offline  
Old 10-03-2013, 02:59 PM   #15 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Chuck33079's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Houston
Posts: 12,265
Drives: 2011 370ztt
Rep Power: 29539
Chuck33079 has a reputation beyond reputeChuck33079 has a reputation beyond reputeChuck33079 has a reputation beyond reputeChuck33079 has a reputation beyond reputeChuck33079 has a reputation beyond reputeChuck33079 has a reputation beyond reputeChuck33079 has a reputation beyond reputeChuck33079 has a reputation beyond reputeChuck33079 has a reputation beyond reputeChuck33079 has a reputation beyond reputeChuck33079 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

The exchange is already up and running, and many states administer their own exchange. Adding one more penalty to the list of things the IRS can hit you for is hardly the end of the world. Take off the tinfoil hat.
__________________
2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent
Chuck33079 is offline  
 

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
High Plains Raceway/ 2 Forum Members!! Shadezz Track / Autocross / Drifting / Dragstrip 0 09-07-2013 04:12 PM
any forum members at formula d today? marks370z Nissan 370Z General Discussions 0 04-07-2012 05:09 PM
Competition Clutch (Forum Members Receive 5% Off) corsport CorSport 4 09-16-2011 05:25 PM
Members Gallery Forum Section RCZ The370Z.com Feedback, Suggestions & Questions 7 03-03-2009 12:05 AM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:59 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2