Affected by Government Shutdown?

Cmike2780

A bit lot of inaccuracies in there. Obamacare is funded by taxes, no one is arguing that. Those that can benefit from the program are working tax payers, it's not a form of welfare that Faux News has made it out to be. This won't effect the guy selling drugs on the street. The act is to provide health insurance to those who work legally, not welfare....that's an entirely separate issue. I don't know where you got your information, but the ER doesn't triage based on insurance. I also don't understand what cab rides have to do with anything, true or not. Furthermore, the budgeted amount that was suppose to fund educating the public on how Obamacare would work was defunded by GOP leaders to undermine the implementation. They want to see it fail before it ever gets off the ground. That's why we're on the verge of a likely government shut down. While some idiot is reading Dr.Seuss in the middle of Congress, government employees that keep this country running are left waiting and wondering if they have work the next few weeks. There needs to be a debate on what can and can't work. What they shouldn't do is use government employees and services hostage because they're not getting what they want. It's the equivalent of some kid threatening to hold their breath if they don't get their way. Obama is basically telling them to go ahead and do it until they turn blue in the face.

I have plenty of gripes with those that manipulate the health care system. I have doctors and nurses in my family that experience it first hand. They stay in hospitals and see it as a hotel. They know that hospital can't discharge them if they're having chest pains for example. My gf is a nurse and every time she comes home, she tells a story of yet another guy who's verbally and sometime physically abusive to the nurses and staff....it's usually the guy/girl without a job or medical insurance...gun shot victims, homeless...etc. They come in to the doctor's office with Medicaid while dressed with expensive clothing, jewelry, smartphones, cars etc...Also, not saying it's a racial issue, but they're often African Americans or Hispanic from low income neighborhoods. I'm not saying they're the norm or the exception...I'm just saying it exist and that's what I've personally observed. The sooner we tackle the problem of insuring all those that work and pay taxes, the sooner we can weed out those that go into the ER, stay in the hospital for weeks and don't pay a dime. They're the reason why premiums are so high and why a 3 day hospital stay can easily be billed at around $18k. I think people need to at least read what Obamacare enacts and decide for themselves instead of listening to what the news pundits are proclaiming.

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andre12031948

I'm in the middle of something & only skimmed through your post.

Where does it say the health care is for tax payers? I thought it was for people that don't now have health insurance. Job, paying taxes, or welfare is not part of the plan..... I think??? Anyway will read the rest when I get the chance.

Oh yes, people on welfare do get free car service to go to their medical doctor. Just like a free phone. Well it's not free, we pay for it. It's free for some people. I'll be back if you need details... That's NOT how to build a strong & healthy & fair country!!!

Cmike2780

First off, that free "Obama phone" program is was highly misleading propaganda spurred by rumors. It was program called Lifeline Assistance that began in 1996 to provide land lines to those who couldn't afford it. It was enacted under Clinton, continued under Bush and expanded to include cell phones instead of land lines. That switch coincidently started under Obama and the rumor spread. Yes, technically anyone on welfare can apply, but again, that's another issue. An applicant is generally eligible if they are at or below 135-150% of the Federal Poverty Guidelines or if they already participate in one of many public assistance programs such as Medicaid, food stamps, energy assistance, public housing....etc. As far as tax payers paying for it...it's yes and no. The money actually comes from a small fee added to most people’s monthly phone bills, called the Universal Service Fund fee.

As far as "free" cab rides, that's really skimming the bottom for excuses. Maybe it would help if you pictured a white 90 year old woman living alone, who worked all her life, payed her taxes, eventually used up all her money and just needs a ride to her doctor. Trust me, I wish we knew who rightfully deserves the aid and who's gaming the system. It's just not a valid argument for this debate.

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