Love the shot of the Atom.. such a sick car!

One thing that I find odd. Is how sharp and clean the subject looks. But the background seems quite noisy?

think that was at 800 ISO so that may be the "noise" you are seeing. i don't really see any though. are you referring to the bokeh (aka the out of focus area) behind it? if so, that's a product of the lens and the f-stop

Im no pro thats for sure. It was just a curious observation. It could be "bokeh" that im seeing :tup:

Curious anyone in for a D800 vs 5d iii pros/cons debate? Anyone upgrading?

I sold my D7000 awhile back in lieu of a D700s that i inherited. Even though the D7000 was the better camera.. I guess i kept the D700s because it was my grandfathers :icon17:

Now im looking for a FF body to upgrade to and im thinking of bailing ship on nikon for canon L glass. That D800 sure does take great shots at low ISO.

Nice assortment. :tup:

i plan to buy the 300mm f/4 IS asap... that lens was epic :excited:

What are you referring to as the D700s?

Because if you are saying the D7000 is better than the Nikon D700... Well then, I honestly don't follow... lol.

best mine can do at night :/Attachment 46190

yea i was like :wtf: lol

So sorry guys i ment D300s!

Even so im sure some could justify the D300 as being better for thier use because of the more pro body construction. But if you compare stats the D7000 seems to come out ahead in all but AF cross points and full magnesium body.

a shot I grabbed of a friends daughter yesterday.

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...yan/keira1.jpg

Nice work, Mr. Alchemy ^^^

That is a nice lens. Here are mine (so far)

16-35 2.8L II
24-70 2.8L
70-200 2.8L IS II
100-400 4.5-5.6L IS

Here you go, D800 is my choice but I love Nikon so I'm a little biased. However read this article and you may be as well!

http://kenrockwell.com/nikon/d800.htm

If someone has questions pertaining to the 5d mark 3 vs D800 email me
info@clintearhart.com

I'm a Nikon guy, but the 5D MIII is what the D800 should have been. I was not happy at all with the D800... Which is good because I don't need to want another camera.

very nice :tup: i had the 100-400 for a while, sold it for a good profit after buying it for a steal and deciding i wouldn't use it nearly as much as i thought

Got this one yesterday

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l265/avryan/z4.jpg

Nice shot. The blue photographs nicely, IMO.

I have a hard time reading to much rockwell these days.

Seems so far we have 1 Nikon purist for the D800. And 1 nikon purist for the 5D3.

So far im on the fence. While the 5D3 obviously does a MUCH better job with usefull ISO. The D800 however has almost twice the MP, and for as good as it does im amazed!

I feel like they have done a great job controlling noise for such a high MP. Also when looking at detail, its obvious that the extra MP is going to work by resolving more detail in both low and well lit areas, IMO.

Such a toss up.. if only Nikon would release F4 lenses with VR for under 2k. I think it still comes down to lens selection overall. Takes a real baller to play with 2.8s VR and Nikons, especially past 200mm :icon17:

On a side note my D300s should be out of the repair shop today! Time to compare it directly to this new D3200 i picked up! 24 MP new kid on the block vs the 12MP Old dog from grandpa!


D3200 JPEG + AUTO straight from the cam minor tweaks in viewNX2.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7182/7...01c4938d_b.jpg
Nikon D3200 Nissan 370z by nitex08, on Flickr

D3200 JPEG + AUTO straight from the cam minor tweaks in viewNX2.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7185/7...d57c35cd_b.jpg
Nikon D3200 Nissan 370z by nitex08, on Flickr

D3200 RAW + M few tweaks in capture NX2.
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5334/7...a9f31d4c_b.jpg
Rem1 by nitex08, on Flickr

I have been out of the game for awhile so these shots are not all that impressive.. But I have taken a whole 10 shots or so with it and still do not have an initial assesment of the D3200.

Bad news from the camera shop. They are unable to remove the tamron lens that is stuck to my D300s body :shakes head: So i can send it in to Nikon as my last option.

Few more with the D3200 - Images are looking a little soft with the kit lens, im hoping some quality glass will fix that. I will admit i have no idea what im doing in capture NX2.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7093/7...f4b1c863_b.jpg
baileyD32-2 by nitex08, on Flickr

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5327/7...a442da5b_b.jpg
bckyrd32 by nitex08, on Flickr

I'm liking the D800 also, but I'd rather wait for the D400 or whatever it's going to be called. The D800 is too much camera for what I need....heck, my trusty D90 is more than I need. I swear, this hobby is worst than modding cars.

Agreed Mike, im trying to get a grip and realize im not a pro getting paid for photo work. I do find myself OCD'ing out and pixel peeping. Knowing damn well its the tool behind the camera that makes the biggest difference.

But specs are specs and as we get more accustomed to constant upgrades, things are noticed when we revert. Things like a puny viewfinder and horrible battery life makes a good reason for opting to buy the more expensive body (my main 2 gripes with the d3200). The other odd thing is they opted for 12 bit vs 14 bit raw files. I realize this is THE entry level Nikon DSLR for the most part, and i shouldn't expect to much from it. But its helping me understand what i do what from my next camera.

Anyways time will tell.. But i sure wish the D400 or D7100, what ever it will be, was out right now. I really want to test the new sensor. And i wouldn't mind spending another $1000 over the D3200 price to do it. Maybe ill just return it in a month(thanks best buy) and buy a D800 :tup:

My son Colin shot this one:

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...21306921_o.jpg

My thing is, I have no need or want for that many MP's, I do however always want to be able to use more natural light.

Yeah there's pros and cons for me too with that many MP's. HUUUGE raw files on my computer that I keep cramming on there and dont always get around to deleting slow the hell out of my computer. I'm actually looking more in to cinematography at the moment. I've had no interest in it since the start of DSLR's introducing video capabilities until recently when watching a few videos on YouTube by various people who are really making amazing short films using just their DSLR'S and a Glidecam

From what I've seen, both have really, really good high ISO capabilities. The Nikon also has a better dynamic range. The only difference I could tell were the color renditions, with the Canon rendering a bit warmer color tones. The Canon wins in the 'burst' mode however, since the Nikon struggles a bit more with the higher MP's. I think both are insanely good cameras with Nikon edging out because of the MP's. It's more than you need, but from a technical standpoint, who wouldn't want a near medium format camera quality for a fraction of the cost.

^^^sick shot!

I don't normally like the vignette effect, but it works for that shot.

On a side note, does anyone here use a stand-alone light meter and shoot manually... or do you guys just let the on-board camera metering do it's thing?

thanks man

Me.

I would much rather have another stop of light.

I'm not a pro, so do you mind explaining what you mean? Higher 'usable' ISO on the D800 is pretty on Par compared to the 5D from what I've seen. They both get really noisy around ISO 12,800, but still usable. The ISO on the 5D could techically go up to 102,800, but it ain't pretty...besides, wouldn't a faster lens yield better results?

From what I've seen, the 5DMIII is more usable at 25600 than the D800. I would use that a lot more than being able to take a picture and print it out the size of car.

And even past 25600, the option is always there even though its not to pretty. A grainy shot is better than a blurry shot.

I guess it really depends on what you're shooting. To me, any noise is distracting, which is why I usually shoot with ISO 100, 95% of the time. If you're a wedding photographer though, I can see why the extremely high ISO would be better than not getting the shot. The D800 is suppose to have a really good dynamic range though, which might help in post without loosing detail which I really like. Truth be told, 12MP is enough, but having 36MP means more to play with. For someone doing wedding photo's this could work as a benefit, potentially saving a pic that needs cropping. It's not like you have to shoot at that setting either.

DxOMark gave the D800 a score of 95 vs 81 for the 5D Mark III, besting it in every category including low-light ISO if that means anything. At the end of the day though, I still think they are pretty much neck and neck.

I'm an avid canon user buy hence why I'm switching to Nikon d800 for my upgrade. The 5d mark 2 IMO is better than 3.

epic shot anthony :tup:

Just curious your reasons on why you prefer the 5D II over the III?

I'm a fashion and beauty photographer. We like our images crisp and clear, if ever applicable raising the dimensions to billboard sizes. The Nikon d800 offers unparalleled bit depth quality I believe it's 25 on ox mark, which is unbelievable for a camera that expensive. 32 bit depth is what the big boys hassleblad shoot in. The canon was a disappointment to me, that should of been the 5d mark 2 years ago. Unfortunately I would own a 5d mark 2 vs mark 3 as I wouldn't fathom spending that money on minuscule updates.



ThePhotographer

Yes the D800 is an amazing camera, for sure! After using my nikon D300 51 point AF, im afraid the 5d2 will not have a sufficient AF for me. I really like shooting wildlife, birds in flight etc. This usually demands a great AF!

While i agree that the 5D2 would be more than enough for me in every other aspect, the AF horror stories are pushing me away.

Looks like ill hold out for the D800, hopefully they get another batch released soon!

The af is okay is decent and I'm assuming you'd be shooting stopped down in day so you could probably do that. Get away with the 5d mark2


ThePhotographer

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