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HKYStormFront · 05-18-2011, 02:48 PM

clone tool FTW!

Cmike2780 · 05-18-2011, 04:22 PM

Anyone here clean the sensor (low pass filter) on their own? I saw a kit for $90, but I'm hesitant. How much do camera shops usually charge for sensor cleaning?

wilsonp · 05-18-2011, 04:42 PM

I assume it shows up with other lens so is on the sensor.

If the dust isn't stuck, you may want to try a rocket blower or a plastic foot pump (press lightly) to try to blow the dust off. Canon recommends you don't put the nozzle inside the camera, to ensure you don't accidentally scratch the sensor.

HKYStormFront · 05-18-2011, 05:01 PM

yea i've heard good things about the rocket blower, i'd like to get one myself eventually

Cmike2780 · 05-18-2011, 05:58 PM

Yeah, it showed up even after switching lenses.

It's like $10 for the rocket blower. I'll give that a shot before I take it in to the shop.

HKYStormFront · 05-18-2011, 06:08 PM

i've heard some people say it's better to hold the camera so that the sensor is facing the floor when doing that, that way when it stirs up the dust most of it will fall out thanks to gravity. i dunno tho, seems like if it's strong enough it should just blow it out. might be one of those "can't hurt" things do while cleaning it

Parkerman · 05-18-2011, 10:15 PM

Yea, you won't damage your sensor with a blower... That's the first thing to do if you see dust on your sensor. Rarely is it ever anything more than that. When changing lenses I am always more worried about getting the end cap on my lens rather than getting the other lens on the body. Reason being is that you can easily blow dust off your sensor... You can't clean the inside of a lens if you get dust in it.

They do say to face your camera down when you are doing that, which is true because of gravity, dust falls, if its facing up you are more likely to get dust in it. With that being said, you're going to get dust in your camera no matter what.

Buy a blower [ I have a rocket blower, very nice] and blow that mess out.

HKYStormFront · 05-18-2011, 11:48 PM

yea it's a good idea to keep the camera face down when changing lenses too^

Dsphoto · 05-19-2011, 06:13 AM

The dust on the sensor, if it doesn't move between frames, is probably stuck.

Remember that there is a shutter moving at rapid speed, moving the air near the sensor and causing strong vibration.
If it looks like a blob a blower will not remove it. The biggest problem is oily dust which leaves blob shaped residue on the imager filter. This can only be removed with a physical cleaning, best done by a professional.

How does dust get there in the first place? If you never change your lens you will still get dist. Some of it comes from within the camera due to wear but most comes from outside. Your lens is an air pump. WHen you zoom or focus air, and the dust in it, is drawn into the lens. This is attracted to the sensor due to the sensors charge. So if this is how most dust gets into your camera you have to address how the dust gets onto your lens.

The main culprit is your camera bag. Put your bag in a strong afternoon shaft of light and give it a bang (without cameras in it). If you see dust particles coming out of it replace it. You can try to clean it but this probably won't help. The foam padding in the bag starts to break down after a while which generates dust.

I saw this first hand, a customer bought a Canon EOS-1Ds Mark III (early in the morning) for $8000, brought it home, put it in his camera bag and went out shooting. He came back that afternoon with complaining of dust on his sensor. It all came from the bag. The store sold him a new bag and cleaned his cameras and lenses and the problem went away.

6spd · 05-31-2011, 01:49 PM

And back after a long hiatus!

Here are 2 new shots I just took in one of the local parking structures. They help capture some of the darker, urban, city feel versus the typical Florida palm trees and green grass. Enjoy!

HKYStormFront · 05-31-2011, 02:57 PM

dark and moody! try black and white!

6spd · 05-31-2011, 03:38 PM

i did a black and white, but i like these better, never been crazy about black and whites.

HKYStormFront · 05-31-2011, 03:58 PM

i like a good black and white shot, but i don't do it all the time, in fact, because i shoot cars almost exclusively, i hardly ever use the B&W tool

wilsonp · 05-31-2011, 07:31 PM

Hope you don't mind, but I played with B&W & sepia conversion, crop and rotation a little - I think you're right, it is hard to make a good B&W from this one:

6spd · 05-31-2011, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wilsonp

Hope you don't mind, but I played with B&W & sepia conversion, crop and rotation a little - I think you're right, it is hard to make a good B&W from this one:

hey man, you got rid of the angle

that made the shot!

thats what a Z would look like back in the 30's!

05-18-2011, 02:48 PM	#1 (permalink)
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05-18-2011, 04:22 PM	#2 (permalink)
Cmike2780 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 5,059 Drives: slowwww Rep Power: 30	Anyone here clean the sensor (low pass filter) on their own? I saw a kit for $90, but I'm hesitant. How much do camera shops usually charge for sensor cleaning? __________________ [09][MB][6-Spd MT][Touring][Stillen Gen III][K&N][Borla CBE][Evo-R] [ArchitTEK Photography]

05-18-2011, 04:42 PM	#3 (permalink)
wilsonp A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,134 Drives: 2009 Touring Sp Nav Rep Power: 18	I assume it shows up with other lens so is on the sensor. If the dust isn't stuck, you may want to try a rocket blower or a plastic foot pump (press lightly) to try to blow the dust off. Canon recommends you don't put the nozzle inside the camera, to ensure you don't accidentally scratch the sensor. __________________ 2014 Cayman S PDK Sport Chrono White/Black Was 2009 370Z Touring Sport+Nav 7AT Metallic Black/Persimmon Was 1991 NSX Auto Black/Black

05-18-2011, 05:01 PM	#4 (permalink)
HKYStormFront A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Greer, SC Posts: 14,954 Drives: 06 Frontier SE 6spd Rep Power: 53	yea i've heard good things about the rocket blower, i'd like to get one myself eventually __________________ Patrick // 06 Frontier 6spd Nismosis // Mods: Uprev Tuned @ Z1 Motorsports: 257whp & 292 ft lbs 09 Pontiac G8 GXP // M6 // Sunroof // Tint... For now

05-18-2011, 05:58 PM	#5 (permalink)
Cmike2780 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 5,059 Drives: slowwww Rep Power: 30	Yeah, it showed up even after switching lenses. It's like $10 for the rocket blower. I'll give that a shot before I take it in to the shop. __________________ [09][MB][6-Spd MT][Touring][Stillen Gen III][K&N][Borla CBE][Evo-R] [ArchitTEK Photography]

05-18-2011, 06:08 PM	#6 (permalink)
HKYStormFront A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Greer, SC Posts: 14,954 Drives: 06 Frontier SE 6spd Rep Power: 53	i've heard some people say it's better to hold the camera so that the sensor is facing the floor when doing that, that way when it stirs up the dust most of it will fall out thanks to gravity. i dunno tho, seems like if it's strong enough it should just blow it out. might be one of those "can't hurt" things do while cleaning it __________________ Patrick // 06 Frontier 6spd Nismosis // Mods: Uprev Tuned @ Z1 Motorsports: 257whp & 292 ft lbs 09 Pontiac G8 GXP // M6 // Sunroof // Tint... For now

05-18-2011, 10:15 PM	#7 (permalink)
Parkerman Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Huntsville, AL Posts: 255 Drives: 2009 MB 370z Rep Power: 15	Yea, you won't damage your sensor with a blower... That's the first thing to do if you see dust on your sensor. Rarely is it ever anything more than that. When changing lenses I am always more worried about getting the end cap on my lens rather than getting the other lens on the body. Reason being is that you can easily blow dust off your sensor... You can't clean the inside of a lens if you get dust in it. They do say to face your camera down when you are doing that, which is true because of gravity, dust falls, if its facing up you are more likely to get dust in it. With that being said, you're going to get dust in your camera no matter what. Buy a blower [ I have a rocket blower, very nice] and blow that mess out. __________________

05-18-2011, 11:48 PM	#8 (permalink)
HKYStormFront A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Greer, SC Posts: 14,954 Drives: 06 Frontier SE 6spd Rep Power: 53	yea it's a good idea to keep the camera face down when changing lenses too^ __________________ Patrick // 06 Frontier 6spd Nismosis // Mods: Uprev Tuned @ Z1 Motorsports: 257whp & 292 ft lbs 09 Pontiac G8 GXP // M6 // Sunroof // Tint... For now

05-19-2011, 06:13 AM	#9 (permalink)
Dsphoto Base Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Suffolk cty New York Posts: 159 Drives: 10 BC 370ZR S/T M6 Rep Power: 15	The dust on the sensor, if it doesn't move between frames, is probably stuck. Remember that there is a shutter moving at rapid speed, moving the air near the sensor and causing strong vibration. If it looks like a blob a blower will not remove it. The biggest problem is oily dust which leaves blob shaped residue on the imager filter. This can only be removed with a physical cleaning, best done by a professional. How does dust get there in the first place? If you never change your lens you will still get dist. Some of it comes from within the camera due to wear but most comes from outside. Your lens is an air pump. WHen you zoom or focus air, and the dust in it, is drawn into the lens. This is attracted to the sensor due to the sensors charge. So if this is how most dust gets into your camera you have to address how the dust gets onto your lens. The main culprit is your camera bag. Put your bag in a strong afternoon shaft of light and give it a bang (without cameras in it). If you see dust particles coming out of it replace it. You can try to clean it but this probably won't help. The foam padding in the bag starts to break down after a while which generates dust. I saw this first hand, a customer bought a Canon EOS-1Ds Mark III (early in the morning) for $8000, brought it home, put it in his camera bag and went out shooting. He came back that afternoon with complaining of dust on his sensor. It all came from the bag. The store sold him a new bag and cleaned his cameras and lenses and the problem went away. __________________ 78 Z1R, '08 ZX10R, 2010 BC Roadster S/T, 6M, Stillen G2 CAI, Invidia CBE, Berk test pipes, Painted headlights (180˚Custom), JDM rear fog, B&M short shifter, Stillen front plate mount, stubby antenna, setrab oil cooler, uprev. 337rwhp 254ft/lb corrected!

05-31-2011, 01:49 PM	#10 (permalink)
6spd A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: South Florida Posts: 3,001 Drives: Q50RS Rep Power: 26	And back after a long hiatus! Here are 2 new shots I just took in one of the local parking structures. They help capture some of the darker, urban, city feel versus the typical Florida palm trees and green grass. Enjoy! __________________ -Jay- jonathanjamesphotographer.com

05-31-2011, 02:57 PM	#11 (permalink)
HKYStormFront A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Greer, SC Posts: 14,954 Drives: 06 Frontier SE 6spd Rep Power: 53	dark and moody! try black and white! __________________ Patrick // 06 Frontier 6spd Nismosis // Mods: Uprev Tuned @ Z1 Motorsports: 257whp & 292 ft lbs 09 Pontiac G8 GXP // M6 // Sunroof // Tint... For now

05-31-2011, 03:38 PM	#12 (permalink)
6spd A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: South Florida Posts: 3,001 Drives: Q50RS Rep Power: 26	i did a black and white, but i like these better, never been crazy about black and whites. __________________ -Jay- jonathanjamesphotographer.com

05-31-2011, 03:58 PM	#13 (permalink)
HKYStormFront A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Greer, SC Posts: 14,954 Drives: 06 Frontier SE 6spd Rep Power: 53	i like a good black and white shot, but i don't do it all the time, in fact, because i shoot cars almost exclusively, i hardly ever use the B&W tool __________________ Patrick // 06 Frontier 6spd Nismosis // Mods: Uprev Tuned @ Z1 Motorsports: 257whp & 292 ft lbs 09 Pontiac G8 GXP // M6 // Sunroof // Tint... For now

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