Ok, here's the deal. First, I should've just called mag_black to discuss instead of texting. Texting is so informal and can be taken the wrong way and taken out of context. Just to make sure all the facts are laid out, yes- there are several addresses on my paypal account. Unlike most on here, I do not frequently look at this forum and did not see his PM's as to when the springs were sent after I initally sent him the money. It wasn't until they didn't arrive that I thought about the addresses. My initial text were not meant to be blameful, only to state that I thought that he may have sent them to the wrong address. The text was taken the wrong way, obviously, and that's when it escalated. It was not my intention to put the blame initially or solely on him. It was a text of 'S#@T, what do we do about it'. I even said that in the following text. Had I not been at my job, I would have called. It was not until I was told I was basically rude and that it was on me to clear it up with Fedex that I got heated over it. And it wasn't until I talked about posting here that I was left on my own to clear it up that he later offered to help on his end. I even left it at that, said I would do all the work trying to track it down and fix it and to have a nice day, but that I would let people here know about it. Again, just the facts. I felt hung out to dry. I'm sure most of you would feel the same... Again, it comes down to communication. Texting sucks. To mag_black, thanks for calling fedex. Hopefully it can be resolved. If not, you just got a $200 discount on your coilovers ;) Enjoy

There is always 2 side of the coin.
Hopefully you both able to resolve this issue. Which appears both parties are trying to resolve. Which is in the good spirit of the Z community

Happy Selling and Buying to all!

Until Andrew decides to sell me his M7's coils for dirt cheap!:tiphat:
Man I love those coils.

E21, it escalated because you came out w/ blame. We have the texts if you want to show people. You think I'm helping you because you were going to slander my name here? Now, you see why I didn't want to help you.

Your first line of defense was to state, "you shipped to the wrong address". If you'd handled it differently, I would've helped you, but then threatening to slander and sue me is just over the top. It seemed like you weren't in the wrong, and I was. That's my problem.

Remember, I don't have to do anything about the situation. I think you're forgetting that.

edit: I've kept every end of my bargain. I uninstalled them when I said I would, I professionally packed them, I shipped them out when I said I would.

Wow, it appears that you either can't comprehend the idea behind me saying texting can be misinterpreted, or you are truly just a mean person. Did I not state that I did indeed state that I said 'you shipped it to the wrong address'? And then stated that I did not intend to place blame?

And yes, you told me to call myself and handle it because it seemed you took offense to the text. Like I stated, texting is not a good form of communication as things can be misinterpreted or taken not as it was intended, which still seems like what you'd like to still do.

Your angry is still palpable. I feel there was no anger in my post to all of this.

And yes, the fact is that you did not intend to help nor, as you put, help for gas, until after I stated I would post s about the situation. In fact, in the mist of our texting, you posted this thread to beat me to it.

Again, as I stated, it was not my intention to place full blame on you. It was a knee jerk response to the situation.

Alright, I want this to be done and over w/. I've called FedEx and they will be contacting you via cell, I've waived all my rights so you will have to deal w/ them. I no longer have anything to do w/ the process.

edit: good day and let's not ever deal again -- for both our sakes :D

Thus the iggy list.

Post the texts for entertainment?:stirthepot:

I think at this point lets just move on.

Be careful dealing with *ICE*
 

Hey all,
So a few weeks back I had worked out a deal with a forum member *ICE* in Las Vegas to buy his mag blue ce28's and center caps for $2500 shipped to me in southern california.
http://www.the370z.com/attachment.ph...1&d=1410228803
He was nice enough to accept a payment plan, and I paypaled him $700 that evening. Fast forward a week or so, and when it comes time to send him the second payment, he sends me this:
http://www.the370z.com/attachment.ph...1&d=1410228892
Now I had no reason to believe him and I felt bad, and told him I hope he gets his wheels fixed soon and to let me know if he decides to try to sell the ce28 again in the future.
Andrew (DEpointfive0) and I are friends and I had been keeping him updated with the whole situation. He thought something was up and texted the guy right after I told him what happened. The conversation went as follows:
http://www.the370z.com/attachment.ph...1&d=1410228994

So all in all, *ICE* lied to me and it took him 3 days to refund me my money. He claimed he didn't have access to the internet, but he had his phone and was texting me and posting on the G forums the whole time. He did eventually refund me my money, and I was waiting for that to happen before calling him out on his shady business dealings. *ICE* told Andrew that he could pick up the wheels this coming Saturday if he put down a deposit. And after I called him out, this is what *ICE* said.
http://www.the370z.com/attachment.ph...1&d=1410229353
Please be careful when dealing with this guy. He didn't scam me, but just want other forum members to know who they're dealing with here.

Shady shady shady. DE plays 007 so well :)

Zdayz 2014!!

hahaha actually DE was only involved because he happened to text the guy even before i did...typical. but thanks andrew!

Very shady. Why not just tell you the truth that someone offered more and he is backing out of the deal. Then give your money back ASAP and not have to chase him down.
Glad you got your money back.

exactly. on a more positive note, nice meeting you saturday rafael! This is Devin (friends with paperboy haha) your car is super clean

Interesting.

Not that I defending the guy, but sometimes it works in reverse. Buyers back out because they get a better deal.

People just have no integrity now days.

I am currently in the similar situation with my stock wheels.

I made a deal with a guy from out of town. I agreed to cover the shipping costs as part of the original price.

A few days later I received a PM from a guy that was local and he wanted to pay the full price and pick up the wheels.

I told him that I already gave a word to someone and I intended to follow through on my promise. He started laughing at me and said that I should lie to the original buyer and tell him that I decided to keep the wheels.

Even though I am loosing $200, plus the pain to having to pack the wheels and ship them, my word is more important to me, so I ignored the offer from the local buyer.


I have also had a seller sell the item to someone else, just as I was in the process of arranging payment.
I just put him on my ignore list and so I don't have to deal with that guy again.

Yeah that's what happened. I would've appreciated the chance to match the offer, or even the truth but got neither. Also had to harass him for a refund because he claimed he didn't have access to Internet while uploading pics to social media and posting on the g forums....

But good on you cooltoy. Wish all sellers were like you.

It would be a better world.:icon17:

Transactions fall through all the time. All about being upfront and honest. If you think it would be best to back out, say so and state your reasons but not lie or make something up. At least give the other person a chance to compete for the item whether to lower/raise the price depending on whose side you are on or even cover shipping, etc.

Agreed.

I'm dealing with him now lol

:ugh2:

Lol not about his CE28 though

Lol make an offer for his ce28 and I bet you he'll take it if it's more than the offer he has.

I just to share my experience with him I'm not saying he's bad or something but I don't feel comfortable at all to do the trade.

09/08/2014

-He texted me if my work wheels still available and ask if they clear akebono brakes or no.

-I said yes and I'll find time to test fit them.

09/13/2014

-I told him wheels will clear akebono brakes after I tested fit them then we talked about his current wheels which is GT30 for a bit.

-He offered me to trade wheels but I told him too bad you are not local since I love the look of GT30.

-He said we can do shipping but his car is daily driven plus my work wheels already off the car I could ship them to him then He'll shipped his back to me.

-I asked him how should we do it then he told me to get tires remove so it will be cheaper on shipping. I pay for my shipping he'll pay for his.

-I said then I'll need the deposit I'm not going to ship my wheels out for nothing then when he's going to ship his out I'll give money back to him.

-He siad I can trust him. He's well known photographer in Las Vegas plus he's a good friend with owner of very popular user on IG he could vouch for him. He said he has no reason to **** me over because his reputation is too high to get damage also his car was featured on local car magazine as well.

-I said I have over 50 trader score on myg37 too I can get well known member to vouch for me but I still don't feel comfortable with this deal.

-He asked what if I screwed him and won't return the money. I said then you got my wheels.

09/14/2014

-He asked me how soon can I ship out also asked for more details about my wheels.

-He said my set have more damages than his so He wants a bit of cash on top to get them fixed. I said no problem then we agreed on the number.

-I told him I still need the deposit if he wants to trade. He asked me how much so I told him the number then when he's going to ship out his set I'll put more money on top.

-I said I can shipped them out on tuesday it's my day off but he said he doesn't feel comfortable about this deal yet. He'll think about it.

/endofstory:ugh2:

Having a ridiculous time with an item sold to SYNOLIMIT......
sold him a set of pads and shipped them to him per his instructions, his instructions were to ship via usps small box priority.
i immediately shipped the pads and then sent him these photos as proof,
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g1...ps0a031b4d.jpg
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g1...psfaefa25c.jpg
notice on the receipt it says , 4lbs 7oz.
i then get a message from him stating that the pads never arrived and that this was all he recieved,
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g1...ps51a15d50.jpg
so i go and track the item because scott mentioned no record from the post office delivering and sure enough it was delivered,
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g1...psbccbbdcc.png
those pads were accepted and weighed at the post office.I HIGHLY DOUBT any postal worker would deliver an empty box and go out of their way to get a single piece of scotch tape to tape it up... Those pads were accepted and then i got that bs picture. I'm certain those pads were never lost.....
so immediately he files with paypal for a refund. locking my account up. in my original post i listed the pads (xp10's) for $150 + shipping and all that i received from SYNOLIMIT was $155.95. he put up no money for extra insurance. flat rate shipping only comes with $50 of insurance. i get that i should have covered my ***, but as a seller that didnt take 3% for pp fees and asked the buyer to pay for shipping , should i have to come out of pocket again if the buyer is being cheap? i will never do business with this member and strongly advise for you guys to make everything clear with this guy. i thought he was a stand up guy before but not so much anymore.

Nah, he's always been a scumbag. Anyone who has any dealings with him needs to watch their back.

Isn't it not cool to post PMs on this forum? Not a complaint but I think I've seen others get in a bit of trouble over that.

This is why I always put it in writing that if someone buys something from me, they either A) Pay for insurance themselves or B) Accept responsibility if the shipment is damaged or goes missing. That way you can show paypal if he tries to dispute the charge later on.

It is uncool and a violation of forum rules.

I think in a case like this it it's necessary. It shows that he followed the buyer's instructions to the letter.

From the open box pic...it looks like somebody stole it (if it was stolen), also not sure if its the same box because of the "tracked and insured" print on the box, maybe the back side has it??....anyways he shouldn't have gone after you since you did send them with the shipping he picked, you prove and showed that you sent it and it was deliver. You should show paypal the pictures of the item sent so they know you didn't scam anybody, there are only two explanations: stolen by someone or he's the one trying to get free pads

I'm not making any accusations just giving a third party opinion on how I see it. If you are not at fault (which it looks like it) I will definitely fight it because it will affect you in future transactions and maybe your credit. GL

:iagree:

The way I interpret http://www.the370z.com/announcements/4-forum-rules.html , the no-PMs rule only applies in the Off Topic Section. I think it is safe to assume that it was meant to apply site-wide, but that's not what it says.

Since no private info was revealed and it was used to support a claim, I don't have a problem with it. But this ain't my site, so my opinion means nuts. ;)

I was briefly looking to purchase 1 of 2 items someone was selling, with synolimit looking to buy the other item since the seller didn't want to split them. His items (brake pads) were new and he was pretty unreasonable about a very reasonable price. He wanted them at less than cost including shipping, meaning my used item would have been nearly the price of a new one and then more for shipping. I bowed out of that one very quickly and will definitely be staying away from synolimit as both a buyer and seller. Opening a PayPal dispute instead of refusing the package in that condition is evidence IMO of him trying to screw over a fellow forum member.

FWIW, I purchased wheels and tires from guru less than a month ago. He was very up front about their condition, and the transaction went off without issue. I would definitely purchase from guru again.

Yeah, Mr. synolimit does not exactly have the best reputation here.

It is sad to see this thread updated more and more, seems like there's more scumbags on this site every day...

Zdayz 2014!!

I would like to just clarify that the no posting of pm's rules apply to the whole forum as they are in general discussion rules section.

Nissan 370Z Forum - Announcements in Forum : Nissan 370Z General Discussions

But I understand the confusion though. I'll update it so it's the same in all sections.

Thank You for pointing it out :tup:

And on that topic? Please refrain from posting pms in public.

Thanks.

original post edited to follow forum rules. my apologies, i did not know.

I've seen Synolimit post on here a lot and thought he was a good guy. Thanks for the heads up man. And sorry for the trouble you're having to go through

Don't buy from this guy! Bad seller and a horrible buyer. don't answer emails nor phone calls!