Subaru powered Toyota FT-86 Concept

Zaggeron · 03-03-2012, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

Were you able to pick options yet? And do they have the final MSRP price?

There's no info above and beyond what's already on the Subaru website. There are two trim levels -- Premium and Limited. They said the Premium would be about 27K and the Limited about 30K. I think the Subaru is a bit more upscale than the Scion version -- HD radio, Nav, and Bluetooth are standard on both trim levels with the Sub. I ordered the Limited in Galaxie Blue with MT.

Isamu · 03-03-2012, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Zaggeron

There's no info above and beyond what's already on the Subaru website. There are two trim levels -- Premium and Limited. They said the Premium would be about 27K and the Limited about 30K. I think the Subaru is a bit more upscale than the Scion version -- HD radio, Nav, and Bluetooth are standard on both trim levels with the Sub. I ordered the Limited in Galaxie Blue with MT.

KillerBee370 · 03-03-2012, 07:00 PM

My buddy literally JUST went to look at one and said it was SUPER TINY.

Isamu · 03-03-2012, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by KillerBee370

My buddy literally JUST went to look at one and said it was SUPER TINY.

that's good right?

Zaggeron · 03-03-2012, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Isamu

that's good right?

Indeed. tiny = light = good

KillerBee370 · 03-03-2012, 08:38 PM

Tiny = light which is good. He said it was too small though = 911 back seat which is only for looks not actual use.

Zaggeron · 03-03-2012, 08:41 PM

That's fine. I'm getting it for a DD -- mostly to work and back. Don't really need a lot of room.

vo2max99 · 03-04-2012, 12:06 AM

I'm going to give the FR-S a shot but I have a feeling I'm probably not going to prefer it over the Mazda MX-5.

Performance numbers wise the BRZ and FR-S will be roughly equal to the MX-5's considering the power to weight ratios. (2500/170 : 2800/200)

I'm going to predict that the BRZ and FR-S will be slightly quicker beyond say 95-100 mph or ~ 1/4mile due to the 30 HP advantage though.

They'll likely be a bit quicker around the track as well due to less roll vs. the MX-5. After all coupe vs. convertible has some advantages.

However, with that said I still think the MX-5 will remain the more enjoyable car to drive for most. Also things like build quality and the fact that the MX-5 is a proven platform doesn't hurt either.

The 09' and up MX-5's have some really nice engine tweaks which improve durability (it's a very stout little 2.0l), and pulls strong all the way to it's 7400 cut-off and sounds great as well. The car feels much stronger than you'd think and feels plenty quick from behind the wheel.

Of course you don't buy a MX-5 for drag racing but the point is it's quick enough and is a blast to drive. But yeah the FR-S and BRZ appear to be promising so we'll see.

kenchan · 03-04-2012, 06:58 PM

hummm..oil filter on the top... one part of me's telling me that's convenient...but then the other part could get pretty messy. hummm...

MC · 03-19-2012, 02:35 PM

Powertrip · 03-19-2012, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

hummm..oil filter on the top... one part of me's telling me that's convenient...but then the other part could get pretty messy. hummm...

It's the same as the german cars. Much more convenient than you probably think. The one on my current car is cartridge style so you just pull out the unit and swap it out. It's very simple and really easy to get to up there. Not messy at all, similar to say pulling a dipstick, just watch the drips.

HKYStormFront · 03-19-2012, 04:51 PM

canister filters are fine on top (preferable i say), but if it's a traditional filter up top... yea not so much. toyota 4.0L truck engines are that way, made a mell of a hess

XwChriswX · 03-19-2012, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by MC

Daddy like.

takjak2 · 03-19-2012, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MC

Round 1 Okayma starts Wednesday.

MC · 03-21-2012, 05:35 PM

looks like MSRP for FR-S is 24,200 manual and 25,300 for the automatic

03-03-2012, 08:41 PM	#622 (permalink)
Zaggeron A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 1,951 Drives: '10 370ZR '13 BRZ Rep Power: 18	That's fine. I'm getting it for a DD -- mostly to work and back. Don't really need a lot of room. __________________ 2010 Platinum Graphite 370z Roadster:Touring/Sport 2013 Subaru BRZ Limited

03-04-2012, 12:06 AM	#623 (permalink)
vo2max99 Base Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Florida Posts: 120 Drives: 08MS3-BM-6MT Rep Power: 13	I'm going to give the FR-S a shot but I have a feeling I'm probably not going to prefer it over the Mazda MX-5. Performance numbers wise the BRZ and FR-S will be roughly equal to the MX-5's considering the power to weight ratios. (2500/170 : 2800/200) I'm going to predict that the BRZ and FR-S will be slightly quicker beyond say 95-100 mph or ~ 1/4mile due to the 30 HP advantage though. They'll likely be a bit quicker around the track as well due to less roll vs. the MX-5. After all coupe vs. convertible has some advantages. However, with that said I still think the MX-5 will remain the more enjoyable car to drive for most. Also things like build quality and the fact that the MX-5 is a proven platform doesn't hurt either. The 09' and up MX-5's have some really nice engine tweaks which improve durability (it's a very stout little 2.0l), and pulls strong all the way to it's 7400 cut-off and sounds great as well. The car feels much stronger than you'd think and feels plenty quick from behind the wheel. Of course you don't buy a MX-5 for drag racing but the point is it's quick enough and is a blast to drive. But yeah the FR-S and BRZ appear to be promising so we'll see. Last edited by vo2max99; 03-04-2012 at 12:11 AM.

03-19-2012, 02:35 PM	#625 (permalink)
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03-19-2012, 04:51 PM	#627 (permalink)
HKYStormFront A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Greer, SC Posts: 14,954 Drives: 06 Frontier SE 6spd Rep Power: 52	canister filters are fine on top (preferable i say), but if it's a traditional filter up top... yea not so much. toyota 4.0L truck engines are that way, made a mell of a hess __________________ Patrick // 06 Frontier 6spd Nismosis // Mods: Uprev Tuned @ Z1 Motorsports: 257whp & 292 ft lbs 09 Pontiac G8 GXP // M6 // Sunroof // Tint... For now

03-21-2012, 05:35 PM	#630 (permalink)
MC Moderator Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: NC Posts: 3,238 Drives: 2015 GTR NISMO Rep Power: 23	looks like MSRP for FR-S is 24,200 manual and 25,300 for the automatic __________________ 2015 GT-R N1SMO "THE ONE" Instagram MCGTRN1SMO Youtube MCGTRNISMO Last edited by MC; 03-21-2012 at 05:41 PM.

03-03-2012, 07:00 PM	#618 (permalink)
KillerBee370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: So Cal baby! Age: 51 Posts: 5,964 Drives: with passion Rep Power: 321	My buddy literally JUST went to look at one and said it was SUPER TINY.

03-03-2012, 08:38 PM	#621 (permalink)
KillerBee370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: So Cal baby! Age: 51 Posts: 5,964 Drives: with passion Rep Power: 321	Tiny = light which is good. He said it was too small though = 911 back seat which is only for looks not actual use.

03-04-2012, 06:58 PM	#624 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141520	hummm..oil filter on the top... one part of me's telling me that's convenient...but then the other part could get pretty messy. hummm...

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