Subaru powered Toyota FT-86 Concept

Mandingo · 03-02-2012, 05:51 PM

Some great pics of the powertrain & drivetrain.

Excellent new BRZ / FR-S Drivetrain + Powertrain Pics

I am seriously excited about this car. I hope it has a lot of success!

takjak2 · 03-02-2012, 10:19 PM

My takeaways:

MT transmission will not hold more than the stock torque.
Low engine necessitates very low and reward front swaybar with long endlinks. They look to me like they'd snap.
Oil filter on top.
Coils on dampers (coilovers) on all 4 corners will keep suspension geometry constant, except that those front endlinks connect to the coilover so the aftermarket will have to support that.
Shallow oil pan, low total capacity.
Headers run under the oil pan (oil temps).
Steel suspension compenents. No camber adjustment seen yet. A lot of cost savings all around.

Isamu · 03-03-2012, 04:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by takjak2

My takeaways:

MT transmission will not hold more than the stock torque.
Low engine necessitates very low and reward front swaybar with long endlinks. They look to me like they'd snap.
Oil filter on top.
Coils on dampers (coilovers) on all 4 corners will keep suspension geometry constant, except that those front endlinks connect to the coilover so the aftermarket will have to support that.
Shallow oil pan, low total capacity.
Headers run under the oil pan (oil temps).
Steel suspension compenents. No camber adjustment seen yet. A lot of cost savings all around.

what makes you say that about the trans?

Red__Zed · 03-03-2012, 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Isamu

what makes you say that about the trans?

Probably this:

Quote:

There are two types of transmission and a 6-speed AT 6-speed MT. MT is a single cone synchro over triple-cone, a 4-speed to 6, in the range shift feeling daily rate has been increased from 1 to 3. AT is electronically controlled adaptive control was adopted. Adaptive control and determine what the road conditions and vehicle state from the accelerator opening, that control is performed in accordance with the intent of the driver. 3 provides a mode of "SPORT" "SNOW" "(manual) M", has become a mechanism, such as running can enjoy according to the situation by changing the degree of control interventions, respectively.

It has become a royal road to select the MT given the run, there is only one problem. It should be turned to what was assumed 205Nm (20.9kgm) / 6400 ~ 6600rpm which is the current engine torque capacity of the transmission. Would have been taken from the factor of safety to some extent, it would not matter if a little about, such as response to the large torque 422Nm (43.0kgm) / 4400rpm Impreza WRX STI is it has not been assumed, for example. But that the drive train, otherwise the propeller shaft and drive shaft and differential, and there is enough space in the AT it.

However, there is no problem at all levels, even if it is about fine-tuned 6-speed MT. So there is a commensurate need to put hand to the engine if you plan to give more power and torque, there is a story about "Me and the brothers are also enhanced transmission if you do up there." Paradoxically, it will also with a supercharger (MT vehicles) does not publish unless you solve this problem

I read that as a gear ratio decision rather than capacity

Mandingo · 03-03-2012, 10:04 AM

They have some other interesting threads about the trans issue. It sounds like we'll just have to wait and see if they can handle more torque.

Heres a good article on the subject:
FR-S Transmission

Isamu · 03-03-2012, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red__Zed

Probably this:

I read that as a gear ratio decision rather than capacity

interesting... hrm...

03-02-2012, 05:51 PM	#1 (permalink)
Mandingo Track Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Dallas Posts: 625 Drives: '10 370z 6spd Rep Power: 3372	Some great pics of the powertrain & drivetrain. Excellent new BRZ / FR-S Drivetrain + Powertrain Pics I am seriously excited about this car. I hope it has a lot of success! __________________ some mods

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takjak2 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Sterling, VA Posts: 1,922 Drives: Legit Racecar 370Z Rep Power: 144	My takeaways: MT transmission will not hold more than the stock torque. Low engine necessitates very low and reward front swaybar with long endlinks. They look to me like they'd snap. Oil filter on top. Coils on dampers (coilovers) on all 4 corners will keep suspension geometry constant, except that those front endlinks connect to the coilover so the aftermarket will have to support that. Shallow oil pan, low total capacity. Headers run under the oil pan (oil temps). Steel suspension compenents. No camber adjustment seen yet. A lot of cost savings all around. __________________ Mods \| Stuff \| Things \| Seat Time \| Nismo facebook.com/TeamSparrowSpeed

03-03-2012, 10:04 AM	#5 (permalink)
Mandingo Track Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Dallas Posts: 625 Drives: '10 370z 6spd Rep Power: 3372	They have some other interesting threads about the trans issue. It sounds like we'll just have to wait and see if they can handle more torque. Heres a good article on the subject: FR-S Transmission __________________ some mods

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