Subaru powered Toyota FT-86 Concept

Isamu

that **** will piss me off... BUT.. means more people will have money to buy our stuff!

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ZMan8

When are these 2 cars suppose to official be available?

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Isamu

end of this month? I don't know.. just speculating

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cossie1600

They are extremely limited in year one, my friends Subaru dealership is getting two for now, three at the most. Its a smaller dealershop though

Zaggeron

My Subie dealer is supposedly getting only 8 all year.

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Zaggeron

Both are "officially" becoming available at the end of April. i can't speak for the FRS, but the first BRZs are supposed to be at the dealers starting in May.

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ZMan8

limited production?

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shadoquad

That makes sense, from what I've seen with Subaru's performance lines historically. The first WRX came with that limited canary yellow color

If the model does well, they'll step up production in successive years.

NeoSHNIK

Sounds like this car is a "Z wanna be"...

mjd77

I agree. I do think once the initial demand is met, this car will be a total flop. If you look at what car shoppers gravitate towards in this country, the V-6 Mustang or Camaro will be way higher on the list than an underpowered "but handles great" Subaru sports car.

Zaggeron

Yup. as was mentioned earlier in the thread, they should take a clue from the utter and total failure of the Miata/MX-5 -- Americans do not want a lightweight, good-handling, fun to drive car.

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mjd77

Most of them don't. The MX-5 does very well as the niche car that it is but if there was that big of a market for that kind of car, I would have expected the Pontiac Solstice and Saturn Sky to do a little better.

Isamu

fixed

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Zaggeron

The Sky and Solstice were not particularly good handling cars with more weight and less power than the BRZ or FRS. If the BRZ/FRS does as well as the MX-5 does in its niche, I think all involved will consider it a success. It is, after all, a niche car itself not Toyota's replacement for the Corolla

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shadoquad

This is getting a bit off-topic, but the Solstice/Sky failed because it was a parts bin car. It wasn't a design directive. Bob Lutz just threw GM parts into a roadster. It was less practical than the Miata. With the top down, you had no storage. And it wasn't a significantly better car.

The Miata's sales have slowed over the years, but it has had a long run of success.