I gotta say, the Camaro is the ultimate package and for the first time in a very very long time. A car is getting the praise it deserves.

From what I can gather. Don't get the dual mode option. Go aftermarket. Dual mode is normal v8 tone at its loudest.

Impressive no doubt. Id still rather have a 911 S, lol. Probably even the 350GT over the Camaro. At similar price most definitely a C7.

You're just not going to get a Vette, equipped to perform at this level less than $70k brand new. So for about 45k if you opt for cloth seats and 50k for leather. This is the best performance bargain out there. And I can't wait for the ZL1.... AS this package, will be supercharged with a automatic option.. :happydance:

Really? $50K for leather interior....? Thats a steal!!! Still like the GT350 better though...

I'll reserve my judgement after the reviews and test drive.

You really think a 1LE will out perform an entry C7?

Possibly... With the 1le package, it's possible. But not the Z51 package on a vette

I figure GM learned their lesson in the 80's when they produced a turbo firebird that was faster than the vette. Dumb to make a car a better performer than your showcase.

What you have to understand is each sport vehicle has its own engineering & design teams. They share technology but they also compete. So Camaro guys are trying to get as close to corvette performance as possible. But Camaro research has a smaller budget than corvette. With the Camaro 6. The team was allowed to get the Alfa platform, the LT1 and MRC, so they ran with it like a Superbowl football.

Team camaro just figured out how to do more with less. I think it's awesome.


You're talking about the Firebird GTA. Basically the chassis was lighter on the Pontiac and they stuffed a Grand National engine in it. Which was the undefeatable engine of its day.

Having heard it in person, I thought it was noticeably louder than a normal V8 tone when the valves were open--on par with some aftermarket exhausts. Still a bit quiet for my tastes and certainly quieter than some of the more aggressive aftermarket options I'd heard for the 5th gen (and what little I've seen from some 6th gen stuff).

A few of the aftermarket companies (Borla, for example) are making a dual-mode option for the Camaro, so it may be worth picking it up as an option if you really desire that functionality (don't want to anger neighbors/passengers, whatever). From what I understand, adding the dual-mode functionality outside of the factory is not the most cost-effective thing to do.

Unrelated to the above, but the rest of the thread: I'm really curious if the 1LE keeps up with the entry level vette, or is even close. This could end up being a whole lot of car for the money (more than I originally thought).

I think if it competes against the GT350 is much more interesting. In terms of corvettes, the standard SS is as fast and can beat a C6 corvette grand sport. That in itself speaks volumes.

Dual mode wouldn't be important to me... A camaro wouldn't be my daily

The v6s dominate the National car rental lot right now. I'm planning on renting one next week.

2017 zl-1
 

Group

200lbs lighter than the 4,000lb camaro 5 ZL-1
ALL NEW 10 speed automatic/paddle sifters.

640hp....


GM RULES THE AFFORDABLE SPORTS CAR MARKET!!!

now the real question............price.