with a camaro SS at only 3,600lbs.

I can only imagine a well massaged naturally aspirated 575hp, Z28 with a 100 to 150lb weight reduction. Coming in at around 3,475lbs. Weighing in at 6.04lbs per horsepower. Who's ready for it? I'm horny just Thinkin bout it.

I'm gonna guesstimate $60-63K.

think they should pull the samem ove they did with the vette.

new car - same base price. bring the ZL1 out at 55k.

Official from chevy website
Zl1 camaro coming soon!! Est$ 60k and up
I love how it look but 60k is kinda over price
I rather buy z51 corvette for lil over 60k

I think this will put a c7 z51 to bed. Quickly.

Z51 = 460hp
ZL-1= 640hp

Weight deficit is 300lbs.
Horsepower compensation +180hp, camaro advantage.

The camaro will decimate a Z51. It's a 4 seat Z06 with base corvette pricing.

Give me this and a corvette grand sport please!!

The ZL1 grille looks awesome!

yea im gonna have to agree. although you can get a USED z51 vette for 60k doesnt make it on the same power level as the ZL1 has the same engine as the Z06 Vette which you can really find for less than 80k used.

in the end your real decision should be........

do i buy a camaro and look like white trash

or

do i buy a vette and apply for an AARP card.

LMFAO!!!!!:rofl2: :icon18:

So stereotyped but true. Years ago, maybe 2010 or something, I was...somewhere in Ft Kauderake at a posh hotel with the wife. A slammed out, shiny, brand new Z06 pulls up to get parked. Door opens...Lambo style (so ghey) and this blithering, fat, bald, old man struggles to climb out of the thing. It was comical.

:bowrofl: sounds about right.

even the horrible group of owners aside they are both super common.

i honestly love the vette and like the new camaro a lot.

HOWEVER i really feel i couldnt bring myself to buy either one because of both aforementioned reasons.

........but every time i see a new vette i do feel a sudden urge that i want one lol

I'm just not a GM man... at all... but they are on point lately. By a lot. They just seem so inspired to build great sports cars. I really hope Nissan can get there, but I'm not sure they will. I'm even more suspicious that they will use the Infiniti brand for anything that's not a cookie-cutter crossover, or any type of high-volume car in general.

Back to the GM - the new Camaro is sick. However, it hasn't been out long enough to blossom into its rightful place as the exciting rental car you can get at Hertz, or the sports car driven by every single redneck that won't by a Camaro. The ZL1 will be exclusive enough, but even then, you have the old-south rich that will lap those up. I feel younger buyers may have a window of exclusivity, but soon you'll see so many of these things with extra stripes, fake vents, and chrome grille inserts that it'll make your head spin.

The Vette isn't aging well to me (just like nearly every Vette since the original Stingray) but the Z06 and new Grand Sport are just freakin sweet. I'd take a Grand Sport all day - I like the idea of the n/a V8 with all the fun bits around it from the Z06.

The car GM is making that is really tugging at me right now is the ATS-V. A solid sport sedan with a manual. What a sweet freakin idea. If it had an Infiniti badge on it, I would already have one. I have a lot of problems with putting my money into a GM product given their recent history with burdening the taxpayer with their mismanagement and their quality control issues that have resulted in the deaths of people. Other than that, they're doing great.

I agree the base Vette just looks shittie.... The subtle enhancements of the GS/Z06 make a WORLD of difference. The base vette wore out in looks to me 2 weeks after release. But the Z06 in the right colors just looks great.

The GS would be the only way to go. I think GM shouldn't even sell the base body.

The corvette interior, as much as they improved it, already looks kind of dated. And the plastic looks cheap around the dash. For about $1,900 you can completely retrofit the interior with carbon fiber to get the cheapest plastic out. But the camaro interior really looks like what the vette should have looked like inside. It's amazing to me how much the camaro is superior to the vette in terms of the interior.

https://youtu.be/zwTuJ-FAi8U

This Fvckin ZL-1 WOW!

MUSTANG DECIMATED!!!

Yea, i think everyone knew the stang didn't have a chance. Still like it more though. Lol. Camaro...can't get past its mullet history. All you shut up if I'm driving one next year.