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jchammond 02-11-2016 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by 280z/300zx (Post 3409926)
My money is on the V6 1LE vs. a NISMO. Having owned a NISMO and a 5gen 1LE v8, I have faith chevy did it right.


Now you done gone & made me laugh; no other N/A v6 will compete with the VQ37VHR,,,I love chevy's too/ but you been smoking some bad weed.
Not sure if you're talking roadcourse racing,drag or what ever: not gonna happen.
If you gonna buy one: better get the V8 8sp.
& when you run across the right modded Z, you gonna get your feelings hurt.
That be a Fact!


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jchammond 02-11-2016 01:23 AM

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My buddy just got his 14'ss tuned on the Dyno w/ long tubes,test pipes,CAI & full exhaust. Still can't launch it- needs suspension work & drag radials.Attachment 111764
Ended up with 423/424 Hp/Tq
Here's mine when bone stock on a warm day.https://vimeo.com/154955577


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Firebase99 02-11-2016 06:44 AM

No FI and 423whp? Oh I just saw that's '14 Camaro

JDubya 02-11-2016 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jchammond (Post 3410076)
Now you done gone & made me laugh; no other N/A v6 will compete with the VQ37VHR,,,I love chevy's too/ but you been smoking some bad weed.
Not sure if you're talking roadcourse racing,drag or what ever: not gonna happen.
If you gonna buy one: better get the V8 8sp.
& when you run across the right modded Z, you gonna get your feelings hurt.
That be a Fact!


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I'm going to bet on the V6 1LE too. Considering they said its faster than the previous gen SS. I think it will be close, but I'd bet on it winning.

I'm not sure if you meant modded Z vs the V6 or V8. If you meant a modded Z will beat the 6th gen V8 1LE, you're absolutely bat **** insane. No Z short of a super/turbo charged Z will even get close to the V8 1LE.

If you're talking a modded Z vs the V6 1LE, I guess yea it would win. But that is a silly comparison in my opinion.

I love the Z too, but I'm willing to understand that its a 7-8 year old car. Its incredibly dated. The Alpha platform Camaros are no joke, especially the V8.

jchammond 02-12-2016 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by JDubya (Post 3411202)
I'm going to bet on the V6 1LE too. Considering they said its faster than the previous gen SS. I think it will be close, but I'd bet on it winning.

I'm not sure if you meant modded Z vs the V6 or V8. If you meant a modded Z will beat the 6th gen V8 1LE, you're absolutely bat **** insane. No Z short of a super/turbo charged Z will even get close to the V8 1LE.

If you're talking a modded Z vs the V6 1LE, I guess yea it would win. But that is a silly comparison in my opinion.

I love the Z too, but I'm willing to understand that its a 7-8 year old car. Its incredibly dated. The Alpha platform Camaros are no joke, especially the V8.

N/A 370Z vs 2016 V8 Camaro....look up Hennessy 2016 0-170 camaro,
gets to 158 in 30sec./ while my bone stock 11' A/T Base Touring gets there in 34sec.
i got video & i got a few bolt on mods otw....I Like the Chevy's Too-but the 370 will compete with the V-8 in N/A form.....adding TT & Camaro can sit down.

jchammond 02-12-2016 01:34 AM

https://vimeo.com/155088650

when shift light blinks @7k in 5th,,,against the governor @158
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jchammond 02-12-2016 02:09 AM

Your V-6 2016 Camaro shows 0-60@5.8 0-100@14.2
Your V-8 2016 Camaro shows 0-60@5,100@10,120@13,150@25
My Base/Touring Stock shows 0-60@5,100@11,120@16,150@28
So-How does a N/A 370 not compete & i only have 275/243 RWHP/TQ ?
And,,,i weigh 285lbs@6'5.5" (3640lbs. full of fuel)
I must be cheating,,,LoL
Will Go 11's N/A in the spring on HP & Factory 3.359 axle gearing.

Red__Zed 02-12-2016 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by jchammond (Post 3411420)
Your V-6 2016 Camaro shows 0-60@5.8 0-100@14.2
Your V-8 2016 Camaro shows 0-60@5,100@10,120@13,150@25
My Base/Touring Stock shows 0-60@5,100@11,120@16,150@28
So-How does a N/A 370 not compete & i only have 275/243 RWHP/TQ ?
And,,,i weigh 285lbs@6'5.5" (3640lbs. full of fuel)
I must be cheating,,,LoL
Will Go 11's N/A in the spring on HP & Factory 3.359 axle gearing.

Good luck in your pursuit of 11s

UNKNOWN_370 02-12-2016 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by jchammond (Post 3411420)
Your V-6 2016 Camaro shows 0-60@5.8 0-100@14.2
Your V-8 2016 Camaro shows 0-60@5,100@10,120@13,150@25
My Base/Touring Stock shows 0-60@5,100@11,120@16,150@28
So-How does a N/A 370 not compete & i only have 275/243 RWHP/TQ ?
And,,,i weigh 285lbs@6'5.5" (3640lbs. full of fuel)
I must be cheating,,,LoL
Will Go 11's N/A in the spring on HP & Factory 3.359 axle gearing.

I would love to see the source that says the 2016 camaro v6 gets to 60 in 5.8 seconds.... From what I've read the 6th get camaro gets to 60 in 5.1 seconds. You're quoting 5th get times...

UNKNOWN_370 02-12-2016 08:19 AM

Official 2016 Camaro Performance Numbers and Curb Weights are Here!

Firebase99 02-12-2016 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3411584)
I would love to see the source that says the 2016 camaro v6 gets to 60 in 5.8 seconds.... From what I've read the 6th get camaro gets to 60 in 5.1 seconds. You're quoting 5th get times...

Not to mention a few rags hit 60 in UNDER 4 with the SS. Dont get me wrong, I LOVE Z's but the Z34 aint touching the camaro without FI. Itll be a tough fight with equal drivers with the "lowly" V6.

JDubya 02-12-2016 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jchammond (Post 3411420)
Your V-6 2016 Camaro shows 0-60@5.8 0-100@14.2
Your V-8 2016 Camaro shows 0-60@5,100@10,120@13,150@25
My Base/Touring Stock shows 0-60@5,100@11,120@16,150@28
So-How does a N/A 370 not compete & i only have 275/243 RWHP/TQ ?
And,,,i weigh 285lbs@6'5.5" (3640lbs. full of fuel)
I must be cheating,,,LoL
Will Go 11's N/A in the spring on HP & Factory 3.359 axle gearing.

The only thing you're cheating on is where you're getting your numbers from :icon17: They're 2015 numbers, not 2016.

A few folks in this thread have already backed me up, but I'll entertain you.

2016 Camaro 1SS:

0-60: 3.9 seconds
0-150: 25.1 seconds (the 370z goes 0-150 in 35.1 seconds, NOT 0-158--I assume this was just a typo though).
1/4 mile: 12.3 seconds. It's worth noting that there are posts on the Camaro6 forums of guys getting super close to breaking into 11 bone-stock and people breaking into 11's with drag radials. I'm sure some hero runs will break into 11's bone-stock (if they haven't already).

You can validate any of this via Motor Trend, Car and Driver, Hot Rod...literally any magazine that has done a test. Some have pulled better numbers than the ones seen above (not by much though).

I call bull **** on you taking an NA 370z and running into 11's with it. Maybe if you get the absolute hero of hero runs (still no). If you do, be sure to post it in the 1/4 mile thread because you'll be the king of NA Z's over there (you won't post there, because it's not happening). Maybe if you dump enough into the motor where you could have just FI'd it for cheaper.

I'm not trying to pick a fight with you (this is a great conversation, in my opinion), and I LOVE the 370z too, but it's just not anywhere near close to the Alpha platform Camaro. That car is as it's platform name suggests. Granted, it costs approximately 8-10k more than a Z. But I'd gather that 8-10k in a Z still won't touch it.

For fun, here's a video of a 2016 Camaro SS with cams, heads, exhaust and a 150 shot of nitrous breaking into 9's

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuL2i6oZpT0

Lastly, I didn't pull the 2016 V6 numbers. I can if you'd like, but I trust you can google them better than you did the last time. :icon17:

jchammond 02-14-2016 07:51 AM

Numbers on 370 are from my personal ~Z~ and not from a magazine, numbers from camaro came from Hennessy 0-170 video - before & after.... They had a M/T in the camaro...might have been why it was slower- I posted my video- count the seconds on the frames


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jchammond 02-14-2016 08:23 AM

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Attachment 111834
Not using numbers from a chart like this, calculating actual numbers from video.
V8 camaro shows 0-116 in 12.3 here
My chart had 0-120 in 13,,,about same.
V-6 camaro I posted must have been the turbo.
But in all honesty; everyone are a bit different & the A/T Z's are definitely quicker; maybe that's why you can't comprehend it.
JDubya
Now go back to post #621 & examine


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jchammond 02-14-2016 08:37 AM

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Attachment 111835
Dyno showed 156
More like 0-156 in 33 or 34sec. That's bone stock.


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