2016 Alpha platform Camaro

UNKNOWN_370 · 03-24-2016, 06:10 PM

https://youtu.be/tJNWdMWGDnw

The most IMPRESSIVE AFFORDABLE BASE CAR TO DATE!

Is the Z obsolete now in terms of features and tech for the money? My answer is YES!

Unless the base Z becomes the sport tech package with a price tag of $32,000? The base Z is obsolete.

RicerX · 03-24-2016, 10:45 PM

Not gonna lie - I'm blown away by the numbers the base car is putting down. 5.5s to 60 in a "big ***" Camaro with a 2.0T. With 275hp. Methinks offering a V6 in there is almost pointless now. I think it's a formality that the V6 is even offered in the Mustang and Camaro so they don't shock their buyers by chopping the V6 altogether. I think they'd freak some of their casual buyers out by saying "well we only have a four cylinder and a V8 available now." Most people still associate four cylinder motors with cars like the Versa.

The power figure alone justifies my criticism against the supposedly soon-to-be offered 2.0T in the Q50 that will make a measly 205hp. It's a different car in a different segment altogether... but it just seems like a really weak offering. Especially when this Camaro is going to be $25k all over the place and still be pretty damn quick. A Q50 with 205hp will be lucky to see faster than 7s to 60.

Dude in the video is a total goober, btw. But he does the job.

Firebase99 · 03-25-2016, 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RicerX

Not gonna lie - I'm blown away by the numbers the base car is putting down. 5.5s to 60 in a "big ***" Camaro with a 2.0T. With 275hp. Methinks offering a V6 in there is almost pointless now. I think it's a formality that the V6 is even offered in the Mustang and Camaro so they don't shock their buyers by chopping the V6 altogether. I think they'd freak some of their casual buyers out by saying "well we only have a four cylinder and a V8 available now." Most people still associate four cylinder motors with cars like the Versa.

The power figure alone justifies my criticism against the supposedly soon-to-be offered 2.0T in the Q50 that will make a measly 205hp. It's a different car in a different segment altogether... but it just seems like a really weak offering. Especially when this Camaro is going to be $25k all over the place and still be pretty damn quick. A Q50 with 205hp will be lucky to see faster than 7s to 60.

Dude in the video is a total goober, btw. But he does the job.

I agree, the only reasoning I can think of with paltry HP figures for the Q is its going for really really good MPG?

UNKNOWN_370 · 03-25-2016, 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RicerX

Not gonna lie - I'm blown away by the numbers the base car is putting down. 5.5s to 60 in a "big ***" Camaro with a 2.0T. With 275hp. Methinks offering a V6 in there is almost pointless now. I think it's a formality that the V6 is even offered in the Mustang and Camaro so they don't shock their buyers by chopping the V6 altogether. I think they'd freak some of their casual buyers out by saying "well we only have a four cylinder and a V8 available now." Most people still associate four cylinder motors with cars like the Versa.

The power figure alone justifies my criticism against the supposedly soon-to-be offered 2.0T in the Q50 that will make a measly 205hp. It's a different car in a different segment altogether... but it just seems like a really weak offering. Especially when this Camaro is going to be $25k all over the place and still be pretty damn quick. A Q50 with 205hp will be lucky to see faster than 7s to 60.

Dude in the video is a total goober, btw. But he does the job.

In the case of the camaro. The V6 still makes sense. It's 200lbs lighter than the SS, FERRARI - LIKE exhaust note, high end TORQUE like mad. 1LE capable. Can be loaded up.

I think for the budget conscious. The one size fits all 2.0 get it all in one bundle comes at an amazing price and it's so well done. A buyer would never feel like he settled.

If you look at the POV footage in the review the camaro is so stiff and nimble. Considering it's only pulling .90g of flat accel. It looks like on the roads it's capable of more. In a 1g world we forget how good having .90g felt in a sports car. Chevy reminds us that we can do more with less. And the bargain car doesn't have to be a POS.

ALL This CAMARO needs is Tint & Wheels and it's ready to roll. Intake exhaust n tune. You're in the 380hp level with just a couple grand.

Truly an amazing package. I'm stoked.

OMG.... then you have a very worthy GM suspension parts bin. Wow!

jchammond · 03-25-2016, 09:52 PM

I'm waiting to see what kinda 1/4 mile #'s the 10sp. ZL1 is gonna throw...the SS numbers are pretty good stock & street tires.

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UNKNOWN_370 · 03-26-2016, 03:35 PM

https://youtu.be/WOxmV-NxEZU

F dual mode exhaust!!! Aftermarket status!

FPenvy · 03-26-2016, 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

https://youtu.be/WOxmV-NxEZU

F dual mode exhaust!!! Aftermarket status!

That's the one dealership by me. The YouTube kid who's video you posted is pet of my cars and coffee lol

UNKNOWN_370 · 03-27-2016, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FPenvy

That's the one dealership by me. The YouTube kid who's video you posted is pet of my cars and coffee lol

You should find out if he's a cuckold. His girl is hot! Lol.

FPenvy · 03-28-2016, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

You should find out if he's a cuckold. His girl is hot! Lol.

ehhhh id say ok.

he's a weird looking bastard but a nice guy from the times i've talked to him.

UNKNOWN_370 · 03-29-2016, 02:22 PM

https://youtu.be/3DVsK5_WwiU

Subaru compares turbo stang to turbo camaro.

FPenvy · 03-29-2016, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

https://youtu.be/3DVsK5_WwiU

Subaru compares turbo stang to turbo camaro.

...........he would own a 4 banger mustang

UNKNOWN_370 · 03-29-2016, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FPenvy

...........he would own a 4 banger mustang

In all fairness, these 4 bangers are almost as fast as a 87 grand national. And are cheap to MOD.

UNKNOWN_370 · 03-30-2016, 07:23 PM

https://youtu.be/D87tO7VUs2I

M4 vs SS

UNKNOWN_370 · 03-31-2016, 11:25 AM

I didn't expect the camaro to topple an M4 in so many ways. It seems like now the Germans have gotten somewhat lackadaisical in there approach to performance cars. I understand there's pressure to be fuel efficient in Europe to levels not endured in the U.S. but AMG has seemed to overcome those obstacles rather well. BMW I believe has gotten comfortable because BMW buyers for the most part, will accept anything BMW puts out as the best in the game. No matter how flawed it's become. BMW is the most brand bias corporation, followed by Porsche. Loads of false pride in that market. These two companies can build a any **** mobile and put any price tag on it.... it will be honored and sell very well.
Then you have R&T and car & driver that will give some excuse for bimmer flaws. I laughed when R&T said, the q60 is no BMW. YEAH.... I agree. Something tells me it will be better in terms of price to performance.

Maybe this review will be BMW's wake up call to take it back to the 80's.

UNKNOWN_370 · 03-31-2016, 01:36 PM

https://youtu.be/RN5J0-W29dg

So Camaro mitigated front weight with carbon fiber and lightweight materials to keep the ZL-1 from being front heavy. I wonder how this version will do on a track? At about 3800lbs and 640hp,it should feel rather light on its feet considering TORQUE is also 640lbs tq.

03-24-2016, 06:10 PM	#1 (permalink)
UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14859	https://youtu.be/tJNWdMWGDnw The most IMPRESSIVE AFFORDABLE BASE CAR TO DATE! Is the Z obsolete now in terms of features and tech for the money? My answer is YES! Unless the base Z becomes the sport tech package with a price tag of $32,000? The base Z is obsolete. __________________ Favorite Quote. "I'm not gonna kill you... I'm just gonna Bash Your Face In" Jack Nicholson-"The Shining". 1980

03-25-2016, 09:52 PM	#5 (permalink)
jchammond A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Carolina Age: 59 Posts: 15,204 Drives: 13’ 370Z TS 7A/T Rep Power: 2684396	I'm waiting to see what kinda 1/4 mile #'s the 10sp. ZL1 is gonna throw...the SS numbers are pretty good stock & street tires. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ MazWorx built long block \| FI-TT-100 Stage 2.75 \| IPT built 7A/T http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...s-musings.html

03-26-2016, 03:35 PM	#6 (permalink)
UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14859	https://youtu.be/WOxmV-NxEZU F dual mode exhaust!!! Aftermarket status! __________________ Favorite Quote. "I'm not gonna kill you... I'm just gonna Bash Your Face In" Jack Nicholson-"The Shining". 1980

03-29-2016, 02:22 PM	#10 (permalink)
UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14859	https://youtu.be/3DVsK5_WwiU Subaru compares turbo stang to turbo camaro. __________________ Favorite Quote. "I'm not gonna kill you... I'm just gonna Bash Your Face In" Jack Nicholson-"The Shining". 1980

03-30-2016, 07:23 PM	#13 (permalink)
UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14859	https://youtu.be/D87tO7VUs2I M4 vs SS __________________ Favorite Quote. "I'm not gonna kill you... I'm just gonna Bash Your Face In" Jack Nicholson-"The Shining". 1980

03-24-2016, 10:45 PM	#2 (permalink)
RicerX Track Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: TN Posts: 597 Drives: To the Pizza joint. Rep Power: 7722	Not gonna lie - I'm blown away by the numbers the base car is putting down. 5.5s to 60 in a "big ***" Camaro with a 2.0T. With 275hp. Methinks offering a V6 in there is almost pointless now. I think it's a formality that the V6 is even offered in the Mustang and Camaro so they don't shock their buyers by chopping the V6 altogether. I think they'd freak some of their casual buyers out by saying "well we only have a four cylinder and a V8 available now." Most people still associate four cylinder motors with cars like the Versa. The power figure alone justifies my criticism against the supposedly soon-to-be offered 2.0T in the Q50 that will make a measly 205hp. It's a different car in a different segment altogether... but it just seems like a really weak offering. Especially when this Camaro is going to be $25k all over the place and still be pretty damn quick. A Q50 with 205hp will be lucky to see faster than 7s to 60. Dude in the video is a total goober, btw. But he does the job.

03-31-2016, 11:25 AM	#14 (permalink)
UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14859	I didn't expect the camaro to topple an M4 in so many ways. It seems like now the Germans have gotten somewhat lackadaisical in there approach to performance cars. I understand there's pressure to be fuel efficient in Europe to levels not endured in the U.S. but AMG has seemed to overcome those obstacles rather well. BMW I believe has gotten comfortable because BMW buyers for the most part, will accept anything BMW puts out as the best in the game. No matter how flawed it's become. BMW is the most brand bias corporation, followed by Porsche. Loads of false pride in that market. These two companies can build a any **** mobile and put any price tag on it.... it will be honored and sell very well. Then you have R&T and car & driver that will give some excuse for bimmer flaws. I laughed when R&T said, the q60 is no BMW. YEAH.... I agree. Something tells me it will be better in terms of price to performance. Maybe this review will be BMW's wake up call to take it back to the 80's. __________________ Favorite Quote. "I'm not gonna kill you... I'm just gonna Bash Your Face In" Jack Nicholson-"The Shining". 1980

03-31-2016, 01:36 PM	#15 (permalink)
UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14859	https://youtu.be/RN5J0-W29dg So Camaro mitigated front weight with carbon fiber and lightweight materials to keep the ZL-1 from being front heavy. I wonder how this version will do on a track? At about 3800lbs and 640hp,it should feel rather light on its feet considering TORQUE is also 640lbs tq. __________________ Favorite Quote. "I'm not gonna kill you... I'm just gonna Bash Your Face In" Jack Nicholson-"The Shining". 1980

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