Some angles look good on these renders.... Some look hideous... I hope the real camaro looks good in all angles?

While I can't argue against the performance capabilities GM has fleshed out with the Camaro, their styling, to me, manages to only be relevant and fresh for one model year. It just doesn't age well at all, and becomes dry and boring to me very quickly.

This generation will be no exception. Based on those renderings, which are very close to the spy shots with camo that have been going around, we will have another that looks... dated... within one to two years of being on the market.

Love or hate Nissan, they have a knack for timeless styles on their performance/halo cars. The first gen Z looks amazing nearly 50 years later, but even the 370Z NISMO from this year with its enhancements still turns heads and gets people asking questions - it's fresh enough looking to where I want one. The R34 GT-R is going on 20 years old and it looks better now than it did when it was new and manages to look better than many of the overstyled sports cars out today.

That type of timelessness with the styling hasn't been done on a Camaro since the late 60s. Ford, however, has executed that type of styling with the new Mustang, IMHO. Fresh looking car - a true evolution. This Camaro looks like it was a variant of the last generation that got turned down.

Maybe that will change when I see it in person.

Performance wise - I love what they're doing. They're driving the competition and moving the needle. The past couple years with the pony car battle royale have been entertaining as hell. We've gotten GT500s, Hellcats, Z28s, ZL1s, GT350s, Super Snakes, and then on the outside of that we have gotten GT-Rs, Z06s, Vs, etc. It's definitely a great time to be a performance car fan.

Styling-wise, none of the muscle cars can hold a candle to the Z, Even the old 2009-2012 Z's look more exotic than any of the muscle cars.... as it stands right now, none of the muscle cars have visually blown me away, but check out the performance expectations of the Camaro and this car is undeniably revolutionary in terms of performance, while the other muscle cars are evolutionary in performance.

Performance expectations
 

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...ld58cXDn75wpWg

355hp base V6? Sounds amazing.... If the price it somewhere between the base stang and the ecoboost? This will put stress in mustangs base sales, But if the ecoboost is boosted to 360hp? Then Mustang may be more compeitive in the game...
The haard part for stang this generation is the Alpha platform has benchmarked BMW so, it leaves Mustang, searchiing for magic tricks... Let's see how the wars play out? As a 355hp V6, on a sub 3500lb chassis. The v6 camaro may be looking at 5.0second 60mph times with quarters as fast as approx, 13.4 seconds? On a BMW grade chassis. WOW!!! :driving:

As a new BMW owner, I'm not really sure why you're hyped about BMW-grade chassis. Ford benchmarked the new Mustang to BMW (all over the press) and in many ways succeeded. It's not very hard these days to out-do BMW. :icon17:

Well, Cadillac has benchmarked it, so it pretty much surpassed it. To me, there's a lot of performance attributes to the stang that take away from its BMW-like rigidity. Chevy, has better suspension tuning, a more proper sport seating position and better feedback than the stang, so i'm excited about the new pkg. All though, i think the camaro will sadly be going to elec-steer, if im not mistaken? (hopefully not.)

Magnetic ride suspension with Track, sport, touring, and ice mode on the new camaro. This car!!! How much is it going to cost? It's leagues more advanced than the stang or challenger. They claiming mid 30's and it's almost hard to believe.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...91427555,d.b2w

seems like a Z51 vette with a Camaro body basically.

LOOKS exactly like they're trying to make the camaro a 4 seat vette.... The camaro might have vette type looks?

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...SSDVLJKnsTsDXw

We will find out soon. I've decided I'm just going to get a C7 Z51. I like two seats and if I don't get it before I get pregnant it will never happen. :p

Well you better get one in the next 2 weeks because I'm knocking you up at zdayz :yum:

lmao!!! you n***** are str8 homo!! :icon18:

I kinda fell off the C7 bandwagon. After seeing so many in the wild, I'm noticing the side profile of the car is looking kinda bland. All the work was done on the hood and tail, The side just doesn't pop out, at ALL.. I like it a lot though. Don't get my words wrong and the performance is so completely there. But if I were getting a different 2 seater? It'd be a Cayman GT4w/aftermarket exhaust, tune and modded to handle a 150 shot of the juice.

I love comparing rumors to rumors. It's like a race between two marketing departments.

chevy v. ford cold war arms race?

hey, I'm cool with it if it means we go to the moon.

2 more weeks

http://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/imag...ry-94895-7.jpg

what sucks is that I will not be able to get the info when it's released. i'll be at ZdayZ and I doubt i'm gonna go sit in the lodge to get wifi and check it out. i'll be a bit busy lol

You'll be too drunk to remember. :p

The bathrooms at the lodge are really nice though...

maybe. not sure if i'm going as hard as I have in the past. for one I've barely been drinking lately so the tolerance is down. still higher than your average bear but def not to the extent of m prior alcoholism lol

i am interested to see what the Camaro 6th gen debut holds. if that TT V8 rumor thing has any truth to it and the body design.

Not a fan of the 5th gen styling so I doubt I'm going to like this one. Give me a 4th Gen F-body any day of the week.

really? :roflpuke2:

the 5th gen was leaps and bounds over the 4th gens looks.

1st and 2nd gens were good. 3rd was god awful. 4th was ehh not bad and 5th finally got my attention again.

4th gen looks like a potato with wheels. :shakes head:

Yupp - I'll take a 02 35th anniversary Camaro or a WS6 over any 5th gen. Car just looks too cartoony for me. Opinions are fun! :excited:

SNEAK Peek at some chevy parts and angles
 

I definitely see Vette inspiration in the hood creases... I'm just hoping that when they say "slightly" smaller on the Camaro? It's at least 3" shorter, 2.2" lower and 1.5" inch less wide. That would be the perfect proportions for the camaro.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...BOFC7J41mt39-g

I'd buy the Camaro just based on the level of hate I see on the Camaro. Though sales of the Camaro seem to outshine the mustang in the law of averages. Way more people online have something negative to say about the Camaro over the stang. To me, that's more inspiration to buy a Camaro and mod it for serious gunplay at the track/roadcourse. And just straight Shyt on N***** left and right!! :driving:

Love the Z for the same reason. So much h8 on the Z.

any more info on that supposed 800HP TT V8 they built for the 1LE?

Not yet... Just know it could hold 1,000hp modded on the stock engine.

thus you get a z06. the profiles a bit better from the side.

the cayman gt4 comparison to a z51 stingray... you know the caymans gonna cost more than a fully loaded z06 right?

been through all the pricing and I've made plenty jokes in the cayman Gt4 thread lol :tiphat:

much rather have a Z06 over that anyday. orrrrr homos like you already have one :yum:

excuse me, i need to be alone.....

:wtf2:

Yeah, chevy really isn't playing this generation. Mustang made a visually nice car. Honestly and truly... But I see it ending their. The camaro is just ridiculous on paper with the info we have.

Yeah but i don't load sports cars.... For what?

dammit chevy. i finally had my mind set on going next gen Z (if the TT V6 happens) now they start dropping massive power bombs with pretty decents looks based on renderings. now if the magride suspension from the Z51 stuff is true then it may actually be a really good car.

you dont load sports cars?

wut

My ideal GT4 has the deviated stitching, CDR package, autodim, ceramic brakes, climate control and a couple other tidbits. $101,410 Everything else is unnecessary in a sports car.

Gotcha

2015 z06
3LZ interior (max)
stage 3 Aero (max)
PDR / Nav
Comp Seats

101,9XX.XX

So.. base Cayman vs loaded Z06. so if you were to do a base Z06, you'd save mucho's moneys.

such as
1LZ
Stage 3 Aero
PDR
around 90'ish.