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90 ST 03-30-2015 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3154372)
http://www.the370z.com/other-vehicle...ck-review.html

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...89381419,d.aWw

its an independent leaf spring suspension. More advanced than mustangs live axle. there is a long single brace under the car that may look like a live axle but the leaf springs on the wheels move indepently.

IRS came later but they werent live axles after the C2 camaro.

Dude do you know what a IRS is? "C" cars like the C2, C3 you are talking about are Corvettes, they had IRS, the Camaro did NOT.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/98-99-00-01-...-/310347942193 That's a Solid axle...

UNKNOWN_370 03-30-2015 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 90 ST (Post 3154403)
Dude do you know what a IRS is? "C" cars like the C2, C3 you are talking about are Corvettes, they had IRS, the Camaro did NOT.

you're right... leaf suspension is not technologically the IRS but its not as crude as live axle either. for all intents, it is an independent suspension though. But not as advanced as the 4 links and above IRS of today.

90 ST 03-30-2015 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3154411)
you're right... leaf suspension is not technologically the IRS but its not as crude as live axle either. for all intents, it is an independent suspension though. But not as advanced as the 4 links and above IRS of today

Its a solid axle, there is no independent anything.

UNKNOWN_370 03-30-2015 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by 90 ST (Post 3154413)
Its a solid axle, there is no independent anything.

I stand corrected bro... the independent leaf suspension was up front and the camaro had the live axle in the back.


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MY BAD!!!!!!


I realize many camaros on the road have C4 suspension swaps. Thats NOT stock.

90 ST 03-30-2015 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3154432)
I stand corrected bro... the independent leaf suspension was up front and the camaro had the live axle in the back.


5th Gen Camaro SS LS LT General Discussions - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com

MY BAD!!!!!!


I realize many camaros on the road have C4 suspension swaps. Thats NOT stock.

It was a coil up front...leaf in the rear, later went to a coil in the back ('82) and a Macpherson strut in the front, I believe '82 also.

UNKNOWN_370 03-30-2015 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 90 ST (Post 3154336)
I've never seen a pre 2010 Camaro with IRS.

This would have been a sweet look...

THAT WAS MY FAVORITE rendering of the camaro!!!!:happydance:

Too bad thats not the C6:ughdance:

90 ST 03-30-2015 04:49 PM

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C6...




Gen 6 (Camaro) would have been sweet if it had the Gen 2 look.

UNKNOWN_370 03-30-2015 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 90 ST (Post 3154444)
C6...




Gen 6 (Camaro) would have been sweet if it had the Gen 2 look.

i didnt type out camaro, but since we're on the c7 vette... i figured it'd be understood. But i didnt care for the C2 vette to be honest.

UNKNOWN_370 03-31-2015 08:01 PM

May 16th is the BIG DAY fellas... I'm excited!

2016 Chevrolet Camaro to debut on May 16th | Fox News

LAVA 04-01-2015 07:32 PM

American garbage

UNKNOWN_370 04-02-2015 10:24 AM

The Camaro ZL2 is being tested, a 396ci Turbocharged V8 that will weigh in the 3,600lb range and the entry level car, that will be in the 3,400lb range... If this is true, I think mustang will have a hard time recovering this generation. With this type of News... I'm sure Ford is hard at work created some salvagable fixes for there bloated chassis and lackluster performance pkg.
The ZL2 is getting high end composite material for the paneling as wel in other areas of the car. The Camaro 6 will definitely be, a force to be wreckoned with


"With the snails and the space, the new LT6 small-block provides more torque than even the Z06 Corvette’s 650 lb-ft LT4, yet still allows for high-revving fun—as titanium rods, valves, and keepers reduce both reciprocating and valvetrain weight. We’ve heard that the LT6 uses twin Garrett GT3776 55mm inducer turbos, each good for up to 500 hp. The number we were quoted from an anonymous Pontiac, Michigan, dyno operator was 808 hp at about 8 pounds of boost. We’ve also heard from a supplier that the high-pressure, direct-injection fuel pump from the LT4 will be carried over and additional fueling at WOT comes from an extra set of injectors mounted way upstream to help cool the intake charge. Cylinder heads are the same casting as the LT4, but are CNC ported, a practice gleaned from Chevrolet Performance’s LS3 cylinder-head package for the fifth-gen Camaro."

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The turbos can hold 500hp each and the ZL2 is supposed to be high revving 808 wild horses... Amazing!!!

FPenvy 04-02-2015 10:30 AM

"The number we were quoted from an anonymous Pontiac, Michigan, dyno operator was 808 hp at about 8 pounds of boost."

wait what?!

god dammit chevy. had to go and make the Camaro into a good car right after I sold myself on holding out for the next Z model.

this car actually sounds good. a TT v8, CF/aluminum/composites body work and pieces, adjustable rear wing. wtf.

UNKNOWN_370 04-02-2015 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3157439)
"The number we were quoted from an anonymous Pontiac, Michigan, dyno operator was 808 hp at about 8 pounds of boost."

wait what?!

god dammit chevy. had to go and make the Camaro into a good car right after I sold myself on holding out for the next Z model.

this car actually sounds good. a TT v8, CF/aluminum/composites body work and pieces, adjustable rear wing. wtf.

Great to post news like this immediately after someone calls the Camaro...

"American Garbage" :wtf2:

:owned:

:gtfo2:


I think owning both a Z and a camaro are in my cards instead of going high end? It's so hard to decide!!!

FPenvy 04-02-2015 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3157445)
Great to post news like this immediately after someone calls the Camaro

"American Garbage":owned:

:gtfo2:
:wtf2:

:iagree:

now lets wait and see how true that article is. anymore I have trouble believing anything until it's actually released lol

UNKNOWN_370 04-02-2015 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3157446)
:iagree:

now lets wait and see how true that article is. anymore I have trouble believing anything until it's actually released lol

Truuuuuuueeeeee!!

BUT!! Chevy rumor said the vette Z06 would be 625hp n 625tq... N we got 650hp/650tq. So im optimistic. Especially that there's a testing photo.

Goodbye hellcat, hello ZL2!!!

http://image.hotrod.com/f/102341189+...2-spy-shot.jpg

FPenvy 04-02-2015 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3157461)
Truuuuuuueeeeee!!

BUT!! Chevy rumor said the vette Z06 would be 625hp n 625tq... N we got 650hp/650tq. So im optimistic. Especially that there's a testing photo.

Goodbye hellcat, hello ZL2!!!

heres the big question though. if its real and has what they say whats the price tag?

UNKNOWN_370 04-02-2015 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3157474)
heres the big question though. if its real and has what they say whats the price tag?


Add about $3,000/$5,000 to whatever the ZL1 is now. That would be the best educated guess... The next Z/28 should be a N/A beast. My guess, 600hp and a porsche GT-3 competitor?

FPenvy 04-02-2015 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3157486)
Add about $3,000/$5,000 to whatever the ZL1 is now. That would be the best educated guess... The next Z/28 should be a N/A beast. My guess, 600hp and a porsche GT-3 competitor?

soooo 60k roughly.

probably just north of what i'll be spending on the next gen Z.


hmm......

UNKNOWN_370 04-02-2015 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3157488)
soooo 60k roughly.

probably just north of what i'll be spending on the next gen Z.


hmm......

I think you'll be able to keep your next gen Z under $45k for purchase? FP, we just gotta own both bruh... We gotta make it happen.

But mercedes is whats leading me astray...

FPenvy 04-02-2015 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3157526)
I think you'll be able to keep your next gen Z under $45k for purchase?

top tier with all options? we shall see. i'm fully expecting 50k when all is said and done.

my 2009 with all options sticker was 44,700 I believe. I got the window sticker in the glove box I believe.

the next gen Z will hopefully be the same but with the addition of a TTV6 I think it may hop up a bit.

UNKNOWN_370 04-02-2015 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3157528)
top tier with all options? we shall see. i'm fully expecting 50k when all is said and done.

my 2009 with all options sticker was 44,700 I believe. I got the window sticker in the glove box I believe.

the next gen Z will hopefully be the same but with the addition of a TTV6 I think it may hop up a bit.

Oh ok, when it comes to 2 seat sport cars i'm a minimalist. I usually go base, with the best performance pkg availabe. If i get that camaro? That will be optioned out cuz i'll road trip it. N go aftermarket on stereo cuz Nissan never gets that right anymore...

FPenvy 04-02-2015 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3157536)
Oh ok, when it comes to 2 seat sport cars i'm a minimalist. I usually go base, with the best performance pkg availabe. If i get that camaro? That will be optioned out cuz i'll road trip it.

yea I just hate the base Z's. the base wheel always look awful, no LSD (even though the VLSD isn't the best still better than none), no spoiler, awful brakes etc...

I love having Nav/bose as well. although I hate the Nav right now being it's 2009 and I cant play my new iphone 6 through it :shakes head:

UNKNOWN_370 04-02-2015 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3157538)
yea I just hate the base Z's. the base wheel always look awful, no LSD (even though the VLSD isn't the best still better than none), no spoiler, awful brakes etc...

I love having Nav/bose as well. although I hate the Nav right now being it's 2009 and I cant play my new iphone 6 through it :shakes head:

you know i mean base+sport though right?

FPenvy 04-02-2015 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3157550)
you know i mean base+sport though right?

yes to that point the base seats also look awful to me lol

the touring seats are amazing :tiphat:

LAVA 04-02-2015 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3157445)
Great to post news like this immediately after someone calls the Camaro...

"American Garbage" :wtf2:

:owned:

:gtfo2:

I stand by my statement and could care less how much HP it has, it's still American garbage!

UNKNOWN_370 04-02-2015 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3157585)
yes to that point the base seats also look awful to me lol

the touring seats are amazing :tiphat:

For the price of the touring i can put in recaro's and a custom sound system that rocks...

UNKNOWN_370 04-02-2015 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by LAVA (Post 3157726)
I stand by my statement and could care less how much HP it has, it's still American garbage!


Kool bruh... Thanks for ur meaningful, constructive input that is so enlightening and educational to the masses.. u the man!
:bs:

UNKNOWN_370 04-08-2015 08:59 AM

GM's REUSS predicts Camaro will outperform the mustang every way possible
 
:iagree:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...bJjY5y_LyD1U_Q

m4a1mustang 04-08-2015 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3157801)
Kool bruh... Thanks for ur meaningful, constructive input that is so enlightening and educational to the masses.. u the man!
:bs:

:iagree:

Tadpole 04-08-2015 12:48 PM

You guys don't like my base Z? I'm butt hurt. Sniff sniff

FPenvy 04-08-2015 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Tadpole (Post 3163120)
You guys don't like my base Z? I'm butt hurt. Sniff sniff

whatcha snffin? you gonna share? :yum:

Tadpole 04-08-2015 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3163122)
whatcha snffin? you gonna share? :yum:

You really don't want to go there chief.

Or do you? :icon23:

FPenvy 04-08-2015 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Tadpole (Post 3163166)
You really don't want to go there chief.

Or do you? :icon23:

:stirthepot: maybe....

UNKNOWN_370 04-09-2015 03:42 AM

2016 camaro as ecocar3 project.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...5HHNb7j37kRDgA

UNKNOWN_370 04-09-2015 12:31 PM

Chevy on structural rigidity & unsprung weight
 
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...c2LH6_2_imit6A

UNKNOWN_370 04-14-2015 09:52 AM

Ford allegedly claims the Ford mustang Shelby 350 poked holes in the camaro Z/28 Nurburgring lapt times? If that unsubstaniatied rumor is true? The 2017 Camaro ZL2 is gonna murder this car and, it won't even wanna look at the Alpha Z/28. It's gonna be a massacre on mustang and challenger next gen...

Ford Mustang Shelby GT350R Allegedly Beats Chevy Camaro Z/28's Nürburgring Time

theDreamer 04-14-2015 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3168422)
Ford allegedly claims the Ford mustang Shelby 350 poked holes in the camaro Z/28 Nurburgring lapt times? If that unsubstaniatied rumor is true? The 2017 Camaro ZL2 is gonna murder this car and, it won't even wanna look at the Alpha Z/28. It's gonna be a massacre on mustang and challenger next gen...

Ford Mustang Shelby GT350R Allegedly Beats Chevy Camaro Z/28's Nürburgring Time

The ZL2 won't be a competitor to the Shelby 350, the next gen Z/28 will be on the new platform but doubt it will crush the time, if true, of the Shelby 350.
Plus it seems like these 2 have figured out the perfect plan, the Z/28 has been out for a few years and now comes the Shelby 350 as the Z/28 goes away and when the new gen Z/28 returns the Shelby 350 will have been out a few years. Keep that sales cycle going hard and fast.

UNKNOWN_370 04-14-2015 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 3168478)
The ZL2 won't be a competitor to the Shelby 350, the next gen Z/28 will be on the new platform but doubt it will crush the time, if true, of the Shelby 350.
Plus it seems like these 2 have figured out the perfect plan, the Z/28 has been out for a few years and now comes the Shelby 350 as the Z/28 goes away and when the new gen Z/28 returns the Shelby 350 will have been out a few years. Keep that sales cycle going hard and fast.

The ZL2 will probably be in the $60k price point? What is the Shelby price point?

Either way, even if the Shelby is $75k like the Z28, The ZL2 is going to be a monster!! A complete beast that will be the nightmare that keeps the competitors awake at night and not wanting to fall asleep. The Camaro ZL2 is basically Freddy Kruger on 4 wheels. lol:tup:

UNKNOWN_370 04-16-2015 12:11 PM

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...kAbcUkM5ny05jw

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UNKNOWN_370 04-16-2015 12:12 PM

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