ZL1 maybe be rated @ 650hp/650lbs tq
Corvette May not get the new 10 speed...
So camaro may have auto trans advantage.

2017 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 power leaked -- and it's huge! | Fox News

Even though I hate GM and their bad rep, this is tempting....

2017 Camaro ZL1 priced from $62,135
2017 Chevy Camaro ZL1 Hits 60 In 3.5 Seconds, Priced From $62,135

Dealers will mark them up, just like the **** head Ford dealers and the GT-350 and the Focus RS. You will not get one at MSRP.

There are SOOOO many Chevy dealers that it's not necessarily true. Plenty of people got Z06'S at Msrp when they dropped. You might have to visit a couple of dealerships? But you'll be able to get it....

Not sure what car you saw but the camaro is pretty low to the ground and about the size of a G37 just lower and a Lil wider. So I'm pretty confused about your statement

It was a base model in "Arctic White"...terrible. The black, silver and red SS's look great.

The blue one looks good too. I like the yellow one but would never buy it myself in yellow. But makes a nice looking track car.

Incentive on 2016 camaro, 10% off. That's a savings of up to $5000 not including if you can negotiate invoice pricing so you're looking up to $7,000 or 8K with haggling.

Happy car buying for anyone thinking of pulling the trigger on the best muscle car out there right now.

2017 Chevrolet Camaro Deals, Prices, Incentives & Leases - CarsDirect

i'm so tempted at getting one... but then when i see the vette, i want that more sort of

It's definitely a hard pick over at Chevy. They did their thing.

only thing i didn't like when i sat in the camaro, i could hardly see anything. seems that the console gets in the way of everything. if i picked up the seat to the top and my head hit the roof then i could see better lol

Neither are on my list of potential fun cars, but if I were to go Chevy, in my opinion, other than the back seat and cost, I see no reason to get a Camaro over the Corvette.

probably biggest thing would be insurance

....And the Fuel Surcharge.
The ZL1 will be over 60K and is the only thing close to the corvette.
I drove a 2SS Camaro two weeks ago because I was interested in the 50th anniversary.
Lots of bling and up-to-date technology. Sits low like the Z and has great road feel.
I drove the automatic and liked it. Shifts are crazy fast through the 8 speed. Paddle shifters on the steering wheel are large and in perfect locations.
Seats are comfortable to me and I like the sunroof option.
Going back to drive the stick.
Probably not going to get one unless something changes. The realistic thing is this: I have 15K miles on a 2009 Z. And I am not made of money, so not a great investment. Too little seat time for so much money.
The 50Th should come in at about 48K for the Coupe and good accessories.

Don't laugh, I'm seriously considering picking up a Miata or SS in the next month. Yea, I know. Polar opposites. Drive both and consider JUST street cars. Both are hilarious fun for two different reasons. If I can convince my better half to master a stick it's the Mazda. That little SOB is a hoot!! So is the Chevy but in a brutal, haymaker type. Both too fun.

https://youtu.be/3bzNPPzQfE4

ZL1 features are insane. U gotta love it.

Al Oppenheimer or what ever talks about algorithm transmission technology like Nissan wasn't doing it back in 03 along with downshift rev matching. And you can actually engine brake a Nissan. But regardless... The camaro is insane.

If they AWD'd this thing. Nissan would have trouble.

Looks like the 2017 Camaro 1LE models are real performers -- even the V6 1LE had a better lap time than the current Mustang GT:

Lightning Lap 2016: The Year's Hottest Performance Cars at VIR! – Feature – Car and Driver

Camaro SS1LE Hotlap.

The more renditions of the Camaro come out, the farther back cars are in second place in the price range.

https://youtu.be/xjKjnbOsSEs

The zl1 base at 61k is looking sexier and sexier now with all these tests that have been coming out of less powerful models

i secretly want to buy a camaro

Every time I read a story on the new Z28, I secretly dream of owning one. A lot of performance for the money IMHO...

I've seen a few of the newest Camaros cruising around. I'm loathe to admit it, but they look good.

If they make a new Firebird based on it, I may have to cave... that was my first car-love. It ended badly, naturally, and since then, I've only driven Japanese cars.

Lol.... it's no longer a secret. ��

Yeah.... I'm thinking ZL1 & Z35 NISMO? Could possibly be best of both worlds.

If you want a Camero its ok to buy one. There are various support groups available for you and the family. Camaro-alon and others.

Here you go...there are companies out there that do what you want...

Here's just one link:

http://www.transamworldwide.com/buildyourown

https://youtu.be/fi5C1P8Xsvc


There's always something interesting to show about the camaro lineup.

Must be niiice!!!???

https://youtu.be/UipLXN7deZI


OMG!!!! The SS1LE LOOKS AMAZING!!!

In case no one saw it yet the ZL1 beat the old time on the ring by 12 seconds with the 10 speed auto in automatic mode not manually shifted.


Oh it be the mustang gt350r by 3 seconds as well :)

https://youtu.be/FrFnrcpBj5k

i saw it this morning. beast of a car

Now I really want to test one lol

May have to switch back to the domestic darkside for this monster at 60k

i still want to know what the Z06 does... hopefully they track it soon

Ive been eyeing the Z28 ALOT

The ZL1 would beva better city comfy driver tho....hummm

I have eyes on the new ZL1 as well. That machine is just incredible. I haven't openly wanted anything with a bowtie on it for a LONG time.

I'm completely with you on that bruh.

I was just coming to post. 12 hours too late. Lol

FP, RICER and whoever else thinking about the ZL1...

What color would you get if you jumped ship?

I think I'd do blue

http://www.camaro6.com/2016/03/19/pr...ferent-colors/

White or one of the blues would be my choice

that crazy blue one or a black one

White , orange or maybe yellow

White or Orange, my brother is building a 69 ss that is Orange.

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