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I say you should look into getting a used Gallardo. One can be easily found for under 100k. Maintenace & insurance is about the same as a GTR, but you

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Old 04-18-2014, 08:55 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I say you should look into getting a used Gallardo. One can be easily found for under 100k. Maintenace & insurance is about the same as a GTR, but you get a Lambo
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Basically due to something with my work in the next few weeks I will probably be getting paid out upwards of $120-160k (exact amount is unknown).
Don't forget to factor in Uncle Sam will take a nice chunk of that income come next April 15th.
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While it appears you have a nice little sum cash and decent income, I wouldn't do it. All you're doing by getting the GTR and keeping the Z is dramatically increasing your expenses in depreciating assets.

At age 28 I would invest the money in a diversified portfolio and build it up. When these investments build up more then use the dividends or income to pay the GTR bill. Leave or re-invest all the capital gains from these investments so your total portfolio balance increases. Be a little more patient, it's not like you have a crappy car now.

As for paying off your mortgage, it depends on what your interest rate is. Example, if your mortgage is 3%, and your investments average an annual rate of return of 8%, why use the investment money to pay off the mortgage? But you have to invest the additional money.

Let your money work for you instead of you working for your money. Short term sacrifice results in long term pleasure while short term pleasure results in long term suffering.

Sorry to be a party pooper but you seem to be in a great position to set yourself up for a nice financial future and get the GTR much easier several years down the road.

Good luck to you on whatever you decide.
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Don't forget to factor in Uncle Sam will take a nice chunk of that income come next April 15th.
And the state, right? He's in Cali. Between Fed and state tax, your 160k is probably 110k or less, right? $110k becomes $65k?

Seriously? Take a nice vacation so you can feel like you bought yourself something. Pay off the Z if you've still got a note. Make the house the only debt you have. Invest the rest. Revisit the GTR decision after a year of the new salary. Or wait for the redesigned GTR to crater the resale of the current ones and buy a 2013 or 2014 from someone who has to have the new one.
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I was going to say you would make way more than enough money to buy a GTR and easily pay your mortgage in a reasonable manner, but then I read you live in Cali lol. I wouldn't do it lol. If you made ~$150k here in Memphis you could live like a king.
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Kind of been playing with the idea of getting a GT-R. Basically due to something with my work in the next few weeks I will probably be getting paid out upwards of $120-160k (exact amount is unknown). Its not enough to pay off my mortgage and I should also be getting a bump in my salary (currently making around 100k) but I have no clue how much of a bump. My payments on my 370z (which are almost done) are currently ~$500 and for quite a while I was paying $400/month for my internet and now I pay a lot less for my internet so it seems like the payments would be around $1100/month for a 60k loan on a used GTR with a modest down-payment. This amount seems actually pretty easily doable for me especially if I get a 10-15% bump in salary which it could possibly be even more (some weird circumstances at work I can't go into).

I really don't want to use any of that money I am getting and want to either invest or keep in a savings account to eventually pay off my house so even though I could buy a brand new GT-R in cash I don't think I would do that especially with the 2.5% financing right now. I know there are a few members on here who have both or had a GT-R and went back. I am curious how they liked it compared to the 370z? I am a pretty hard-core manual driver and this is actually the only car I would ever consider getting in an automatic (although with the way the transmission is I don't even know if it should be considered 'automatic).

I guess I wonder if those who are similar to me who have driven both what they think. I know the rear seats are super tiny but the very rare cases I need 3 seats its usually with my sister and she is super tiny so she could probably fit back there and the idea of having 4 seats is kind of nice.

Should I actually get a GT-R or am do you guys suggest I just pay off my Z and save my money and pay my house loan off faster?

My other concern is insurance. My insurance is currently $70/month on my 370Z (I am a male, 28 years old). Its not really a problem if the insurance goes up to $200 or so but if I get dinged with $600/month or something on insurance this may become a no-deal for me. Curious what the other Z drivers think. I think I would still keep my Z and occasionally drive that as well and it be my backup car.
I think the better question would be is your job stable enough to afford the payments on the car, house, and utility... what field are you in anyways?
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I think the better question would be is your job stable enough to afford the payments on the car, house, and utility... what field are you in anyways?
I actually work in an extremely desirable field. I am a senior-level Linux Systems Administrator and also do programming (devops). I have actually had recruiters from facebok go find my work email address after I didn't respond to them on linkedin. I honestly don't think I would ever really have trouble finding another job if I needed to. I really like where I work now because I get 25 days a year of vacation as well as 10 sick-days so 35 days a year of paid time off (280 hours per year). Also I telecommute half of the time so I usually don't even have to go into the office.

Thanks for all the input guys. I think what I really wanted to know is if the GTR is really worth it for people who have both a 370Z and a GTR or who have driven both. Even with a huge chunk of money I did not want to use that to actually buy a GT-R and instead wanted to get a loan and it to be at the level where I could pay it without eating into my savings just with my base salary which probably will be the case.

I guess I will just have to find an opportunity to actually go drive one and see how I like it. I think I am probably leaning a bit more towards just paying off the Z and helping my current cash-flow so I can save more and pay off the house quicker though.
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I actually work in an extremely desirable field. I am a senior-level Linux Systems Administrator and also do programming (devops). I have actually had recruiters from facebok go find my work email address after I didn't respond to them on linkedin. I honestly don't think I would ever really have trouble finding another job if I needed to. I really like where I work now because I get 25 days a year of vacation as well as 10 sick-days so 35 days a year of paid time off (280 hours per year). Also I telecommute half of the time so I usually don't even have to go into the office.

Thanks for all the input guys. I think what I really wanted to know is if the GTR is really worth it for people who have both a 370Z and a GTR or who have driven both. Even with a huge chunk of money I did not want to use that to actually buy a GT-R and instead wanted to get a loan and it to be at the level where I could pay it without eating into my savings just with my base salary which probably will be the case.

I guess I will just have to find an opportunity to actually go drive one and see how I like it. I think I am probably leaning a bit more towards just paying off the Z and helping my current cash-flow so I can save more and pay off the house quicker though.
In that case, especially with a stable field, go for it and get the GTR and have fun! You only live once! What's the point of having disposable income and not use it to bring joy? Do it before the wife and kids, it would be a few decades until another opportunity arise!! At the end of the day, it's only a number in the bank. Can't take it with you when a person dies, example steve jobs

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Buy stock in Tesla they are going through the roof, trust me.

Additionally I will have to give the nod on waiting on your GT-R purchase, every vehicle purchase I've mad I've always had buyer's remorse. Please don't feel the same way I do. lol

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Just wait. They'll still be making GTRs in 3 years. How much could that lump sum be if you invested it for three years? At 10% each year, that's $212k. Four years is 230k. 10% is a reasonable rate of return to shoot for. At 10% annually it doubles in 7 years. At 28 your greatest asset is time to let things compound. Use your raise to pay more toward the mortgage if you have to pay it down, but if you're paying under 4% I wouldn't be in any hurry to get rid of the deduction.
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My opinion would be to put that money towards your Mortgage, the faster you pay that off the better you will be. If not use half of that money to go toward your mortgage and invest the rest. Once you finish paying of the house you could get the GTR. I have been contemplating the same but if my bonus comes through like I think it is I am just going to pay my house first. I have about 90k still, I rather pay that off no further worries about home payments.
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Why is everyone in such a hurry to get rid of a low interest rate tax deductible mortgage? If you're paying less than 5% on the note, invest it and make money on the difference. You can always sell the investments and pay off the note if things get tight.
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0. I didn't read the whole thread. Sorry!

1. Wait until you actually HAVE the money and can afford it if, say, you lose your job next month or whatever deal is going down ends up tanking. (To me, a raise is never a raise until I have it signed and in hand.)

2. If the scenario includes any question about a mortgage, then you deal with the mortgage first. Your house is good debt, and an appreciative asset. Your car, even a GTR, is not good debt and likely will depreciate some.

Deal with the mortgage that you have currently, then look at bad debt.

But financially, it's really only business between you and your advisor/loan agent, so if you can afford it, feel free. I certainly won't judge any decision if you can afford it.
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^ well all I know is my Z handles amazing with the Hotchkis sways and Swift Spec R's. Corners like it's on rails, and feels "light" compared to the GT-R. But I'm sure if I got springs/coils and sways it would feel and handle much better! I remember how the 370Z felt stock!
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Worry about your house first. Car second. Then your wife
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