Toyota working on new supra with bmw?

Chuck33079 · 05-23-2013, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Am i the only one here that realizes these are the two companies with the highest recall counts in the world???????

Codename for the concept should be called "Total Recsll".

Some of you guys have your preferences for whatever reason, but toyota's are maintenece reliable, but safety wise are ticking time-bombs. Then BMW has more crucial parts replaced than any other car company. Fuel pumps, injectors, transmission parts, electrical components etc etc...

Let's not get into that whole "unintended acceleration" Toyota debacle. That seemed to be more user error than company issue. They just recalled the cars to save face and get our government off their ***. I remember seeing a chart of the affected people's ages. If you were under 55 you were an outlier.

BMWs are just crap as far as reliability goes. They're the German Mitsubishi.

JARblue · 05-23-2013, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Let's not get into that whole "unintended acceleration" Toyota debacle.

lol damn you... I was too slow

UNKNOWN_370 · 05-23-2013, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Let's not get into that whole "unintended acceleration" Toyota debacle. That seemed to be more user error than company issue. They just recalled the cars to save face and get our government off their ***. I remember seeing a chart of the affected people's ages. If you were under 55 you were an outlier.

BMWs are just crap as far as reliability goes. They're the German Mitsubishi.

There were quite a few seperate recalls for three years straight.. Unintended accel was just one. Before that three year stretch, there were quite a few more. The 2million car reca.l was a sequel event, there were more mass recalls for toyota. Toyota has issues. I'm not bashing them. It's just true. 2.5 years without a car smashing into a wall isn't enough time for me to give them props. Sorry.

When i say Toyota's are the most boring cars to drive on the road. I'm not bashing either. It's a subjective opinion that most modern day enthusiasts will agree. (Not counting the overrated FR-S) Another subjective opinion.

I just personally don't like sports cars with less than 270hp

Chuck33079 · 05-23-2013, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

When i say Toyota's are the most boring cars to drive on the road. I'm not bashing either. It's a stone cold fact.

I won't bash the BRZ/FT86. They built a nice little USDM 240sx. It would be the best $20k car on the road. At $25-$27k, not so much. They're selling the hell out of them though, and it will get other car makers to bring back light RWD cars instead of bloated FWD pigs. For that reason, I'm a fan. Other than that, Toyota builds transportation appliances that are fairly reliable. Nowhere close to their 1980s and 1990s peak, though. Those cars were indestructible.

JARblue · 05-23-2013, 10:16 AM

IDK about all you guys bashing Toyota. I have to turn VDC OFF in the Z so that the car doesn't cut throttle on me. A Toyota will keep the car at WOT without me having to even push the gas pedal

kenchan · 05-23-2013, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

IDK about all you guys bashing Toyota. I have to turn VDC OFF in the Z so that the car doesn't cut throttle on me. A Toyota will keep the car at WOT without me having to even push the gas pedal

lol.... that was some serious issue they had indeed...

UNKNOWN_370 · 05-23-2013, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

IDK about all you guys bashing Toyota. I have to turn VDC OFF in the Z so that the car doesn't cut throttle on me. A Toyota will keep the car at WOT without me having to even push the gas pedal

Sounds like the perfect performance car for guys like jungle Z. He should find a 2009 UNRECALLED Prius as his next perforamce car.

Chuck33079 · 05-23-2013, 11:15 AM

Truecar shows BRZs selling in the $27k range. Either that's way off, or people are getting raped on dealer markup.

JungleZ · 05-23-2013, 11:33 AM

Good morning guys , your favorite troll is in the place. Seriously though Toyota and Honda has been boring I'm not gonna lie that why i got into the z but lets not deny the difference in quality and resale value. My Nissan frontier wasn't even close to as quality as my boys tacoma. The tranny jerked around, the paint peeled off the roof, the seats rattled., full size truck gas mileage.

Nissan is the best bang for your buck, but lets not even get carried away that they are even a factor to superior companies.

UNKNOWN_370 · 05-23-2013, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by JungleZ

Good morning guys , your favorite troll is in the place. Seriously though Toyota and Honda has been boring I'm not gonna lie that why i got into the z but lets not deny the difference in quality and resale value. My Nissan frontier wasn't even close to as quality as my boys tacoma. The tranny jerked around, the paint peeled off the roof, the seats rattled., full size truck gas mileage.

Nissan is the best bang for your buck, but lets not even get carried away that they are even a factor to superior companies.

I've owned 6 nissans and havent had any issues. I've owned over a dozen cars total and have had issues with some. It sounds like you dont take care of your cars if you are even telling the truth???

Toyota isn't anything to write home about. I'd buy 10 nissans before i'd buy one toyota. Honda has a marginally more upscale interior than nissan. Nissan has marginally more peformance than Honda... Everything else is about the same.

Superior cars??? Pay $15,000 to $25,000 more and you begin to enter the realm of superior cars... But from what perspective are you saying superior???
There's so many attributes that make cars good, excellent, outstanding... You're so blatantly general in everything you say and so unintelligent. STFU and read something, get some real seat time in some real cars.

Come back and contribute. If not???

I paid 37k with ttl and such for my Z. i have 11k left to pay. My Z is worth $31k in texas before TTL. I'm 20k in equity on a car i owe $11,000 on. Resale value??? I'm good. Nissan resale is exteemely high in texas. Nissan is off in resale from honda by like $350. Wow BIG sHYT.

AGAIN you know nothing.

JungleZ · 05-23-2013, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

I've owned 6 nissans and havent had any issues. I've owned over a dozen cars total and have had issues with some. It sounds like you dont take care of your cars if you are even telling the truth???

Toyota isn't anything to write home about. I'd buy 10 nissans before i'd buy one toyota. Honda has a marginally more upscale interior than nissan. Nissan has marginally more peformance than Honda... Everything else is about the same.

Superior cars??? Pay $15,000 to $25,000 more and you begin to enter the realm of superior cars... But from what perspective are you saying superior???
There's so many attributes that make cars good, excellent, outstanding... You're so blatantly general in everything you say and so unintelligent. STFU and read something, get some real seat time in some real cars.

Come back and contribute. If not???

I paid 37k with ttl and such for my Z. i have 11k left to pay. My Z is worth $31k in texas before TTL. I'm 20k in equity on a car i owe $11,000 on. Resale value??? I'm good. Nissan resale is exteemely high in texas. Nissan is off in resale from honda by like $350. Wow BIG sHYT.

AGAIN you know nothing.

I would love to take a survery/ poll on your average consumer. Would you buy 10 Hondas,10 toyotas or 10 nissans in your lifetime. What would the results be?

speedfreek · 05-23-2013, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by JungleZ

Good morning guys , your favorite troll is in the place. Seriously though Toyota and Honda has been boring I'm not gonna lie that why i got into the z but lets not deny the difference in quality and resale value. My Nissan frontier wasn't even close to as quality as my boys tacoma. The tranny jerked around, the paint peeled off the roof, the seats rattled., full size truck gas mileage.

Nissan is the best bang for your buck, but lets not even get carried away that they are even a factor to superior companies.

I'll bite on this one. I come from Toyota past 3 cars were Toyota with the last one being a Tacoma. Given for what it is the best selling truck in its segment. I scratch my head as to why you went Frontier. But with that said the Tacoma is far from being anything special. The gas mileage is subpar F-150s and Silverados are whipping its arse in that department. It is a bit long in the tooth. No significant changes since 2005. Just aesthetic changes over the years even under current year. Given the Tacomas drivetrain is solid that is why its the leader of the segment. The other stuff I feel you either have bad luck or just whiny.

Back to topic on hand I am glad to see the new Supra but with the rumors of cost I do not feel as glad to see it as I wish it was going to be in the same price range as the last Supra. They are going to turn the Supra into their halo car to go after the GT-R.

What bad things I wonder you have to say about the GT-R but thats a debate for another day.

JARblue · 05-23-2013, 02:37 PM

The average consumer knows nothing. Ergo, the poll results would tell you nothing.

Haboob · 05-23-2013, 03:05 PM

I liked the last Supra. Thought it looked good.

But these are just ideas - need to see the final product before I can cast judgement (and boy do I like to judge!).

UNKNOWN_370 · 05-23-2013, 05:49 PM

Americans excel in pick up truck tech. He doesnt know anything about shyt.

05-23-2013, 10:16 AM	#5 (permalink)
JARblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Austin, TX Age: 45 Posts: 36,450 Drives: 11 Z34, 98 E36 M3 Rep Power: 2684442	IDK about all you guys bashing Toyota. I have to turn VDC OFF in the Z so that the car doesn't cut throttle on me. A Toyota will keep the car at WOT without me having to even push the gas pedal UNKNOWN_370 likes this. __________________ 2011 370Z 6MT Sport Gun Metallic \| ARC \| CJM \| Ecutek \| FI \| Fujimura \| R2C \| SPL \| Stillen \| TWM \| Z1 \| ZSpeed \|

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Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29540	Truecar shows BRZs selling in the $27k range. Either that's way off, or people are getting raped on dealer markup. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

05-23-2013, 02:37 PM	#13 (permalink)
JARblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Austin, TX Age: 45 Posts: 36,450 Drives: 11 Z34, 98 E36 M3 Rep Power: 2684442	The average consumer knows nothing. Ergo, the poll results would tell you nothing. __________________ 2011 370Z 6MT Sport Gun Metallic \| ARC \| CJM \| Ecutek \| FI \| Fujimura \| R2C \| SPL \| Stillen \| TWM \| Z1 \| ZSpeed \|

05-23-2013, 05:49 PM	#15 (permalink)
UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14859	Americans excel in pick up truck tech. He doesnt know anything about shyt. __________________ Favorite Quote. "I'm not gonna kill you... I'm just gonna Bash Your Face In" Jack Nicholson-"The Shining". 1980

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JungleZ Banned Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: orange county,ca Posts: 652 Drives: leased base z... Rep Power: 0	Good morning guys , your favorite troll is in the place. Seriously though Toyota and Honda has been boring I'm not gonna lie that why i got into the z but lets not deny the difference in quality and resale value. My Nissan frontier wasn't even close to as quality as my boys tacoma. The tranny jerked around, the paint peeled off the roof, the seats rattled., full size truck gas mileage. Nissan is the best bang for your buck, but lets not even get carried away that they are even a factor to superior companies.

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Haboob A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Surface of the sun. Posts: 13,159 Drives: '18 GTI Autobahn DSG Rep Power: 1388	I liked the last Supra. Thought it looked good. But these are just ideas - need to see the final product before I can cast judgement (and boy do I like to judge!).