370Z replacement...suggestions?

Red__Zed

There are plenty of numb hydro setups. That by itself means nothing.

you must have me confused with someone else. Perhaps M4A1mustang?

Davey

There are even more numb EPS setups, though.

Red__Zed

but we're talking about the excellent one in the S2000, not my mustang.

Davey

If you honestly think that an EPS developed in 1999 (well, before then obviously, but close enough) has better feedback than the hydraulic power steering in the 370Z then you are entitled to your opinion, but I find it hard to believe.

The steering feel in the S2000 is better, it's certainly more precise in response. Maybe I focused more on the feedback aspect and got a negative vibe from it, and you focused more on the overall feel and got a positive vibe from it.

In any case I do believe that EPS sucks and I haven't driven a car with it that I like yet, but it looks like before long I won't have a choice.

Red__Zed

That's possible. It's also possible you are wrong and stupid and no one likes you.

Davey

No it isn't! Mom says I'm a great kid!

m4a1mustang

Have you driven the latest Porsche EPS? Quite good.

In any case, how we interpret feedback is highly driver specific. Some people are more seat of the pants drivers while others might rely more on the feel from the steering wheel. I know I've always been more of a seat of the pants type of driver, so I probably don't require as much "feedback" from the wheel since I'm getting enough everywhere else. I "know" what the car is going to do based on my inputs and don't really rely on what I'm feeling from the wheel itself.

This probably explains why I like a car that rotates off the outside rear wheel and rotates very, very easily. I think people that prefer a tighter car (bias towards understeer) would rely more on the steering wheel than their butt.

Edit: And Dan, when the car doesn't do as I expect I simply Steve it.

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Davey

That makes a lot of sense. Since a typical street car is going to push a bit that is exactly what I'm looking for, and if I'm pushing I want to know it, and gauge how much, and if the front wheels should start to grab I want to feel it right away in the wheel so I can dial out some steering angle and/or get ready for the ***-end to start coming around.