LOL. Is someone pretending to be you now on other forums?

I think he just got confused from an S2Ki post of mine in which I said:

Which I stand by.

The only difference between now and then is I decided a compromise between a 5.0 and s2000 is exactly what I want. And a loaded C7 is too expensive. :icon17:

It was s2ki my bad lol

I do understand why it is easy to get frustrated with the Z after owning an S2000. In terms of the driving experience it's hard to match an S2000. It's a lightweight compared to the Z and its driving dynamics are extremely good. Clutch and transmission are perfection. Short of its EPS it's almost "perfect" as far as the overall feel goes.

But it's a royal PITA to live with day to day. And it's slow.

That's what I thought.

It really isn't hard to imagine why I'd buy another one, though. I always said the Z is a very good compromise between a true sports car like the S2K and a more muscley car like the Mustang.

I never hated the Z. I was disappointed with my '09, but the things that disappointed me seem to have been put to rest with the later models.

Also, Midnight Blue. :yum:

Now what's funny is I have a friend with an Exige who always ***** on the S2K for being a fat pig.

Perspective, my friends.

Drive what you like. DO YOUR RESEARCH and make sure it's a good fit before you sign on the dotted line. ;)

I have a PM of your true feelings about Ford. :ohsnap1:

But we'll keep that between me and you. :drama: Maybe???:eek:


:icon18:

Yeah well I have... nudez. :yum:

Lol... No thanks. I don't have a Mick Jagger avatar. lmfao:rofl2:

Bowie, bro. C'mon! :superghey:

hahahahaaaaa... you dont get it. Jagger and Bowie used to or still pork each other. lol:roflpuke2:

:bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl: Oh man I had to go back and re-read it. :bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl:

Considering 1 second quicker makes sense that Nissan did a good job on improving the 350z.

In terms of C&D's comparison, that wouldn't make much difference. It would be placed before BMW z4M.

84 3:11.1 BMW X5 M LLT 2/12
85 3:11.7 BMW Z4 M COUPE LL2 8/07
86 3:12.0 NISSAN NISMO 370Z LL2 2/10
87 3:12.5 NISSAN 350Z TRACK LL1 11/06


If compared to the $33k Camaro SS with a 3:09.5 time
and the $32k Mustang GT 5.0 with 3:08.6 time, the 370z isn't really a bargain.

.

But at the end of the day you have to ask yourself... am I buying this car because of its track times?

I know I didn't.

A bargain, the Z is not. These track numbers are subjective, Most cars on the list can lose to the 370z on another day or in another track. Too many variables to make these numbers concrete performance stattistics.

I know you autocross & such so this isn't really directed at your experience but... I don't thing most people are good enough drivers to get the full potential out of much slower cars than the Z. I'm not. I have no problem admitting it. If I were, I'd be a professional driver in auto racing, or a stuntman, or something like that. Most of these jokers going on about these magazine times are just like me except they won't admit they're not professional driver caliber.

Is the Z perfect at 9- 9.9/10? I dunno, I don't drive it like that, I'm not pretending it's a race car. It's got ample grip on a warm dry day and it's damned fun when you push it a little - and it's still a good cruiser when you're not.

And for what it's worth, I love the "heavy" feel of the steering. One thing I really hate about most cars I drive these days is how slow and over-boosted the steering feels.

it's too bad C&D doesn't have competitions over which cars look the best parked at a Starbucks.

Agreed

Summary of everything: people need to stop looking too deep into numbers because of the variables related in them. Additionally, stop reading too much into car magazine reviews/hype. 99% of sports (sporty) car owners spend little time driving their cars at the limits so we need to stop worrying about it.

Enjoy the car you have. You don't have to love it, but enjoy it for what it is. Every car comes with compromises. If people understood that, then silly comparisons would end.

A pro driver got the ZR1 around the track 6 seconds faster than they did so you have to take all of their times with a grain of salt. 6 seconds is a lot of time on a race track.

:iagree:

When I see comparisons like this these type of questions come to my mind, just wanted to bring this subject to discussion.
At the end of the day I bought the 370z mainly because the way it looks and its configuration:

It is a 2 seater, small agile car. The way, I think, sports car should be.

I could have gone for a Mustang or a Camaro SS but didnt fit with my -ideal- sports car.

But then we wouldn't have anything to do at work

:rofl2: Truth

Hey guys i just took the z out and it was fun, wonder how tonight will treat me

:iagree:

Mag times are pretty good at telling you what a particular group of amateurs were able to accomplish on a particular day.

That may or may not be an interesting piece of information to a given person, I guess.

these times mean nothing. There is nothing consistant at all in this. Just lap times they picked up from here and there people driving.

Do they use the magazine writers to drive them or do they hire a pro?

they drive them

no wonder

MT usually has Randy Pobst drive the cars for their comparisons.

The only lap times that really matter are the ones on the Top Gear test track...........because they are surrounded by an hour of entertaining programming and some witty Brits :rofl2:

I'd rather watch Best Motoring International with K. Tsuchiya testing cars on Tsukuba
:driving:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoLs2Wi9_4I

That is exactly the way I would go.

I would love to jump up to a C7 in the future. Just not in the cards right now. Optioned the way I want, you're looking at $70k. Used ones will be a steal in 3-4 years or so.

:facepalm:


Wow... :bs:


ANYWAY...

I think the C7 is going to hold it's value way more than any other vette in history. Expect the config you want to hold it's value while base models will be thousands cheaper in the used market. You're just gonna have to save and bite the bullet and buy bruh... It'll be worth it. :tup:

Yeah I'm gonna try to buy a used one that's 1-2 years old. If that doesn't work I can get a C6 Z06 or the new mustang/camaro/Z.

I think they'll make so many like always I'll be able to pick one up at a good price.

Everyone has a Corvette

Yeah but they dont sell alot annually. The illusion is, the generations have run nearly a decade long which makes it look like there's a lot. But i don't see C6's all the time. But see C4,C5 and C6 all the time when combined. C7 is going to take a while. I'm sure they will be controlling numbers even more now though. 3 reasons.

1. Chassis is now all aluminum. Costs more to build than previous vettes
2. Extensive use of carbon fiber. You normally fdont see that much CF till you hit $115,000
3. Stock interior is waaaaaayyyy more upscale. Much less cheap components means the budget must be running tighter.

They sold 37000 C6 Corvettes in 2005 when they came out, in 2012 they only sold 11000. C5 was pretty steady, they sold over 30000 every year except for 2002 (25000). C4 sold over 50000 units in it's first year.

Given the current pricing I don't think they will ever reach those numbers again, but the car also gives a lot more too. It is more of a niche market car now than it ever was.

They still sell more than 370z