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370Zsteve 05-15-2013 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 2104762)
Anyone notice the 3.13.8 for the gencoupe R-spec & 3.17.5 for the infiniti Gcoupe sport???
Not good.

I think the 370z sport needs to be on here. It's 150lbs lighter, the 9/10 staggers are perfect for track vs the 9.5/10.5 borderline overkill for taking corners. And the sport Z should be equipped with RE-11's. Since Nissan keeps hiking the prices on the Z for almost no reason. The least they coulda done was upgrade the stock tires.
Z suspension is easily improved cheaply. Unfortunately though. That can't be done for the lightning lap. The Z potential is much higher than whats on paper here. The Nismo is overkill for this type of tracking.
Car & Driver used to be my favorite car mag. I think it sucks now and the writers can't drive for ****!

Caustic 05-15-2013 05:13 PM
I am not sure why you are giving JungleZ any airspace. I have not seen 1 worthy contribution from him on any conversation in this site. And responding to him just rehashes the same arguments on 50 million other threads while hijacking those threads. Useless.

Car comparisons are fun for about 5 minutes. After that, it really boils down to personal preference. If you love owning your Z, great, that is why you are on this forum. If you hate owning your Z, state it once, we all get the picture, then move on. If you don't, then you are just a miserable sod who has to deal with owning a car you hate.

Tazicon 05-15-2013 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by JungleZ (Post 2317346)
yikes looks like lots of Z fanboys Jimmies were rustled, im not gonna post anymore in this thread dont worry. I''ll let you guys know when i get rid of the car.
I am actually a Porsche Fan Boy but I can take a car for what is worth and enjoy it. I never buy a car with out researching it. I knew what I was getting into well before I bought the Z.

Edit: After a year and a half and 28k miles I still love my Z.

asdfsammich 05-15-2013 07:41 PM
Interesting read.

The only thing that separates the guy with all the charts and the leaser's remorse guy is how they go about trolling.

One has way too much time on his hands and the leaser's remorse guy, well that guy just might have a learning disability I'm afraid.

At the end of the day they both can't move beyond trying to mash the square peg into the round hole.

The z is a moderately priced sports coupe with a moderately compromised design and flaws that come with that approach. Not that hard a concept to get.




Tapatalk2 ...

Red__Zed 05-15-2013 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by asdfsammich (Post 2317727)
Interesting read.

The only thing that separates the guy with all the charts and the leaser's remorse guy is how they go about trolling.

One has way too much time on his hands and the leaser's remorse guy, well that guy just might have a learning disability I'm afraid.

At the end of the day they both can't move beyond trying to mash the square peg into the round hole.

The z is a moderately priced sports coupe with a moderately compromised design and flaws that come with that approach. Not that hard a concept to get.




Tapatalk2 ...

Too much time on my hands? I guess so. Airports are a boring place.

If pointing out that home-made facts don't hold up to scrutiny is trolling, then I guess I'll take my trolling trophy and trollololololol my way home :tup:

I don't have any problem with the Z, I just find it ridiculous when people say things like:

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Originally Posted by red6spd (Post 985547)
A 370 is as faster or faster then a Caymen S. Y spend more on a car thats not faster and is very expensive to maintain.
I've never been very good at shutting my mouth when people are making stuff up. Maybe it's a flaw that I should work on, but I like to consider it a feature. And, much like many features....it's kind of a love/hate thing.

It's probably closer to early stage BMW i-Drive and in need of serious refinement, but that sounds hard.



Jungle on the other hand...I'm convinced he loves the Z and just likes hearing other people say nice things about it. His dislikes are too inconsistent to be real. It's really a genius strategy when you think about it:icon17:

red6spd 05-15-2013 08:42 PM
@Red_Zed. I didn't call you out so don't get mad at me. And that quote you posted, when and where is that from? Seems old and from another thread.

370Zsteve 05-15-2013 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 2311941)
2013 Cayman is a big step up. Practically a brand new car for 2013 while the Z has stayed mostly the same. The Cayman entered a new performance envelope so you can't really compare them like in years past.
Is the price a big step up? Because the performance vs the z has always been about the price difference, and the Z has always come out on top in bang-for-the-buck. By the time you finish optioning a Cayman S, the damned thing is probably $80 grand or something.

At that point, all I would think about would be 'Stingray' :yum:

red6spd 05-15-2013 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve (Post 2317814)
Is the price a big step up? Because the performance vs the z has always been about the price difference, and the Z has always come out on top in bang-for-the-buck. By the time you finish optioning a Cayman S, the damned thing is probably $80 grand or something.

At that point, all I would think about would be 'Stingray' :yum:


I cant speak for cornering G's slaloms braking cause I don't really feel like looking them up (maybe Red_Zed can) but straight line performance is about the same with the new Cayman S maybe being a tad faster. But like you said the car starts at $72,900 and just gets more expensive.

370Zsteve 05-15-2013 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by red6spd (Post 2317822)
I cant speak for cornering G's slaloms braking cause I don't really feel like looking them up (maybe Red_Zed can) but straight line performance is about the same with the new Cayman S maybe being a tad faster. But like you said the car starts at $72,900 and just gets more expensive.
It STARTS at 72,900 now? Haha, when you option it, expect to pay about $90K then.

b1adesofcha0s 05-15-2013 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 2317784)
Too much time on my hands? I guess so. Airports are a boring place.

If pointing out that home-made facts don't hold up to scrutiny is trolling, then I guess I'll take my trolling trophy and trollololololol my way home :tup:

I don't have any problem with the Z, I just find it ridiculous when people say things like:



I've never been very good at shutting my mouth when people are making stuff up. Maybe it's a flaw that I should work on, but I like to consider it a feature. And, much like many features....it's kind of a love/hate thing.

It's probably closer to early stage BMW i-Drive and in need of serious refinement, but that sounds hard.



Jungle on the other hand...I'm convinced he loves the Z and just likes hearing other people say nice things about it. His dislikes are too inconsistent to be real. It's really a genius strategy when you think about it:icon17:
It's just the reputation of RZTS that makes everyone think you're trollolololing all the time.

Red__Zed 05-15-2013 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve (Post 2317826)
It STARTS at 72,900 now? Haha, when you option it, expect to pay about $90K then.
Looks like it starts just under $64K.

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e3...ps80545759.png

red6spd 05-15-2013 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve (Post 2317826)
It STARTS at 72,900 now? Haha, when you option it, expect to pay about $90K then.



LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My bad that was Canada Porsche. It starts at $63,800 for the s

sorry

asdfsammich 05-15-2013 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 2317784)
... I've never been very good at shutting my mouth when people are making stuff up. Maybe it's a flaw that I should work on, but I like to consider it a feature. And, much like many features....it's kind of a love/hate thing. ...



Jungle on the other hand...I'm convinced he loves the Z and just likes hearing other people say nice things about it. His dislikes are too inconsistent to be real. It's really a genius strategy when you think about it:icon17:
Lols! Elaborate spin is pretty funny, so fair enough.



Tapatalk2 ...

UNKNOWN_370 05-16-2013 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by red6spd (Post 2317797)
@Red_Zed. I didn't call you out so don't get mad at me. And that quote you posted, when and where is that from? Seems old and from another thread.
What you said is true to a point anyway. But its only flawed in the sense that you didnt explain the Porsche is much better at the limit. and is a faster, more responsive car in the triple digits, that also possesses a higher top speed.

But this is a Z forum. We don't have to explain porsche's prowess if we dont want to... :tup:


I love Porsche's. I own a Z based on Nissan's quest to rival out a poor mans porsche...

But in this case... You know what? Fvck Porsche.

There, I said it. Lets move on. :roflpuke2:

370zrider 05-18-2013 08:32 PM
Does anyone knows what time does the 370z records in the Top Gear test track?

theDreamer 05-20-2013 07:41 AM
01:27.5: 370z
List of Top Gear test track Power Lap Times - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

red6spd 05-20-2013 10:45 AM
Take a look at some of the cars the Z was faster then. I will stand by while some people try and explain this.

UNKNOWN_370 05-20-2013 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by red6spd (Post 2323810)
Take a look at some of the cars the Z was faster then. I will stand by while some people try and explain this.
Porsche Cayman S hit 1:26.7, the Z hit 1:27.5. The boxster S hit 1:28.7. The Z slots right in between the coupe and. Roadster in track times. I think the boxster has the potential of getting an equal time as the Cayman. But in this situation, it didn't happen. So basically, the Cayman isn't infallible against the Z. Regardless of fanboy stats.:ugh2:

370zrider 05-21-2013 02:17 PM
01:27.5: 370z Vs.

01:31.8 Nissan 350Z
Must have been done with the VQ35DE engines.
4 sec. diff it's an enormous difference and compared with C&D lighting lap times, this just says completely the opposite: Nissan did an excellent job improving the z.

01:30.0 Ford Shelby GT500
really? quicker than a Shelby? :icon14:

m4a1mustang 05-21-2013 02:20 PM
All of these times are worthless IMO.

UNKNOWN_370 05-22-2013 11:33 AM
This whole thread is one of the most worthless threads on the forum, with lots of nissan and non-nissan fanboyism and one-sidedness.

m4a1mustang 05-22-2013 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 2327962)
This whole thread is one of the most worthless threads on the forum, with lots of nissan and non-nissan fanboyism and one-sidedness.
Needs more cowbell.

UNKNOWN_370 05-22-2013 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 2327974)
Needs more cowbell.
:confused:

The only track time worth anything is the one you can personally achieve. Not R&T, not C&D, top gear or anyone. What counts is what you can do in your own car. AND YES, The car mags ARE NOT always the fastest time for any car, nor the slowest. SHYT changes often in the sport.

m4a1mustang 05-22-2013 11:40 AM
You know, from the SNL skit?

Chuck33079 05-22-2013 11:41 AM
I don't even remember the original question at this point. To recap, the Z is a good sports car. There are other good sports cars too. Some cost more. Some cost less. Buy whatever gets your pants tight. Is that about right?

m4a1mustang 05-22-2013 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2327978)
I don't even remember the original question at this point. To recap, the Z is a good sports car. There are other good sports cars too. Some cost more. Some cost less. Buy whatever gets your pants tight. Is that about right?
Seems legit.

jpritche 05-22-2013 11:46 AM
Dat Blue Doe.

On topic kinda, the only time that isn't worthless is those driven by the Stig :stirthepot: :icon17:

UNKNOWN_370 05-22-2013 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 2327977)
You know, from the SNL skit?
Oh, im usually out on saturday nights round that time.

Caustic 05-22-2013 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 2327991)
Oh, im usually out on saturday nights round that time.
Its an old skit, plastered all over the internet, and memed to death. Hard to miss really. But Walken is the man.

Firebase99 11-27-2013 10:56 AM
Thread revival!! On a side note, the 350 they tested and got that 1:31 was a DE. Which tied an E46 M3 and an rx8. The 370 handed it to a bmwZ4 3.5. I vaguely remember the 370 was like 8/10 slower than a C6. Same old Clarkson, albeit, he was gentler. He admitted its a faster sports car than the $62K BMW, but hated it because it wasnt refined like the BMW...

DLSTR 11-27-2013 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2327978)
I don't even remember the original question at this point. To recap, the Z is a good sports car. There are other good sports cars too. Some cost more. Some cost less. Buy whatever gets your pants tight. Is that about right?
I dont know Chuck I think a 20+ page debate is in order and some serious rethink on how the Z beat a Veyron at VIR :):happydance:


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