The car most enthusiasts still sleep on

zguynate · 01-05-2013, 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shamu

What I test drove or visited in showroom 2 weeks prior to 370z

Camaro
Corvette
GTR
Boxster S
Cayman S
911
Audi TT
Toyota Yaris
Mini Cooper S

Almost went for Yaris and Cayman S

Lol man you were all over the place.

kenchan · 01-04-2013, 01:58 PM

JPY88.12. abe's on a roll.

XiP · 01-05-2013, 11:48 AM

Korean products are catching up in a lot of industries... notable example is in electronics. Automobile industry is trending that way too. Maybe 10 years from now people will see Hyundai as having the same build quality as Toyota, Mercedes, etc. or maybe even surpass them

bigsix · 01-05-2013, 02:25 PM

Yea, that's possible. Both Kia and Hyundai seem to 'copy' design aspects from other car companies and compile them together for their designs.

I haven't been in or driven a new Korean car. Are their engines/drivetrains very nice ?

daisuke149 · 01-05-2013, 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigsix

Yea, that's possible. Both Kia and Hyundai seem to 'copy' design aspects from other car companies and compile them together for their designs.

I haven't been in or driven a new Korean car. Are their engines/drivetrains very nice ?

its more than just possible..

The kia Optima is one of my fav cars to drive int hat segment. Despite basically being the same as the sonata, its nicer. The sonata's engine noise is a bit much. Not as well insulated.

The New Santa Fe is also really nice right behind the Flex.

The problem is still peoples perceptions. My 2006 Sonata v6 has never been to the dealership for issues, nor has it had issues. 100,670 miles over 7 years. Still smooth and responsive and everything works.

My 2003 Tiburon v6 i had, never had a problem that i didnt create by messing up something (i learned a hella lot by ******* up that car)

For the people who say they will "NEVER" buy a korean car.. are kinda retarded. There was a time people said that about honda, toyota, nissan. Look at them now. Always have to keep an open mind and make a unbiased decision. Hell, soon we might be looking at chinese and Indian cars too.

b1adesofcha0s · 01-05-2013, 02:49 PM

Lol I used to say I would never get an American car, now the 2 cars I want next are both American

UNKNOWN_370 · 01-07-2013, 07:34 AM

2003 Ferrari 360 Coupe Giallo Modena MB4890 - Park Place McLaren

The car in the link plus $3k might get you a better nismo test drive next time your @ the dealer lol...

XiP · 01-07-2013, 07:51 AM

I went to test drive an IS-F and the salesman kept asking me personal questions like how old I was, where I worked, what I planned to use the car for, etc. I was like wtf? stfu already
I went to the dealer in my Z...

DEpointfive0 · 01-09-2013, 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shogun

I went to test drive an IS-F and the salesman kept asking me personal questions like how old I was, where I worked, what I planned to use the car for, etc. I was like wtf? stfu already
I went to the dealer in my Z...

Most people don't buy it...
Z is 30-46k, the ISF starts at like 68k

I bought mine sight unseen, no test drive

UNKNOWN_370 · 01-07-2013, 01:45 PM

This is an isolated artice that popped up from autoguide. But it seems hyundai is considering a turbocharged version of the v6 in the future for a higher end genesis coupe?

Sounds like it may possibly be an IPL fighter... Considering the next generation IPL will be turbocharged and cost a bit more than a GTR. This gives hyundai a chance to captitolize on the gencoupe legacy with a half price ipl/gtr competitor.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...tJWiv3h8_NoO_Q

At bargain pricing, I'd even have to consider a Genesis coupe Turbo 6. if it turns out to be 2/3 of a GTR at 50% of the price. It would be worth buying for sure

shadoquad · 01-09-2013, 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

This is an isolated artice that popped up from autoguide. But it seems hyundai is considering a turbocharged version of the v6 in the future for a higher end genesis coupe?

Sounds like it may possibly be an IPL fighter... Considering the next generation IPL will be turbocharged and cost a bit more than a GTR. This gives hyundai a chance to captitolize on the gencoupe legacy with a half price ipl/gtr competitor.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...tJWiv3h8_NoO_Q

At bargain pricing, I'd even have to consider a Genesis coupe Turbo 6. if it turns out to be 2/3 of a GTR at 50% of the price. It would be worth buying for sure

Would be cool if they did it, although they've talked about shoehorning the v8 into the GenCoupe before and haven't done it yet.

UNKNOWN_370 · 01-09-2013, 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadoquad

Would be cool if they did it, although they've talked about shoehorning the v8 into the GenCoupe before and haven't done it yet.

Yeah but in its current bodystyle it just wouldn't fit. Rhys Millen tried it all kinds of ways. He wound up making a few ultra limited MR versions with the v8, that cost $80k each. They had to omit the backseats to add the motor. Hyundai had no plans of getting into the MR business with the gencoupe chassis.
So, it would be common sense to go the next best route, Forced Induction.

ImportConvert · 01-09-2013, 05:14 AM

Hyundai is just like Toyota in their market strategy. It will work.

daisuke149 · 01-09-2013, 09:32 AM

AFAIK from Hyundai's previous plans ,they never intended for the v8 to enter the gen coupe.

They did years back have a slight discussion about another sports car to compete with the likes of the vette that would house the v8's. but it wasnt the gen coupe.

RussianRocket · 01-09-2013, 11:17 PM

My heart was set on the Z for years, but I did not love it blindly.

Before I bought the Z, I cross shopped many cars - from domestic to imports and I gave the Gen 1 GenCoupe serious thought. At the time, I believe that the 3.8 Track Package was going for around 30k, which is definitely appealing when compared to a base Z since the Genesis came with nav, leather seats, sunroof, rear seats, a trunk, a relatively powerful engine, not bad looking (especially in black) and a very good warranty. But then the test drive came. The handling was ok, the power was decent - it didn't throw you back in the seat like the Z, but my biggest gripe was the gearbox. I think one magazine said it felt rubbery and I couldn't agree more. Ultimately the Gen 1 GenCoupe was an unrefined sports car, which is why I didn't bother buying it.

Like many people, my friends were dismissing all the positives of the car by saying it was just a Hyundai. I felt like that's not a good reason for discounting a car, but that's Hyundai brand recognition. Maybe Hyundai means cheap in Korean, but if it doesn't, that's what the general consensus is in the American market. I think that the Hyundai logo is what turns most people off because its like slapping a 99 cents tag on a premium product. If they rebadge the Gen Coupe with the Genesis logo, which is the first mod for most Gen Coupe owners, I feel like they can start to redefine what they stand for and appeal to a broader audience.

My Hyundai Experience:
Prior to the Z, I leased a Hyundai Tuscon Limited as my dd, which was perfect for what I needed it to do. It had plenty of room, handled well in the winter and was extremely reliable. The car virtually did not need any maintenance and never once hicupped, stalled or failed after 35k miles. After the lease expired, I returned the car back to the dealership. I personally did not mind owning the car, but I did not require an SUV. So based on my experience, I do not view Hyundai as cheap, but more as reliable.

One day Hyundai may be a serious contender in the affordable sports car market and maybe I'll own one in the distant future. I just don't like how the fascia's on Hyundai's all look alike (much like what Mistubishi did with the Evo X). Talk about having a hard time differentiating yourself from the cheaper, inferior models.

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