Mitsubishi motors a dying brand in US?

cossie1600 · 12-28-2012, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Honda isn't going anywhere. They abandoned the enthusiast market, yes. But they don't need it. They make A to B cars now.

Agree, but they sure do have great racing programs.

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Originally Posted by luigi90210

where do you live though? here in socal, prius owners average 35-38mpg, same with camry hybrid owners(asked a few owners myself and i remember reading a news article about it a few years back) because of all the hills san diego has

dont get me wrong, those hybrids are amazing for city driving but depending on where you live and work here, you can be doing more highway driving then city driving(which is why i go off average mpg instead of paper or just city/highway drivers)

I live in the hills of New England and I drive it like a normal car. The only way a normal car can touch the hybrid's fuel mileage is on the highway at a very high speed. The faster you go in a hybrid, the less efficient they are. At 75mph cruise, it gets 42-44mpg no matter what you do. Also there are over three generators of hybrid and they are different types depending on year, you can't just assume all are the same. The new Camry Hybrid is a completely different system than the previous generators, it's like 10-20% more fuel efficient. Also not all hybrids are slow. Porsche and VW built performance hybrid powertrains. Lexus has hybrids over 300HP.

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

In spite of what some people think about the Evo. If we lost it? The sports car market would become so much less competitive and we'd start seeing crappier sports cars as a whole. The evo is one of the most important sports cars out there just because at $38k you can have one of the most advanced AWD systems as well as the most advanced DCT transmission in the price range, Add in the Brembo pkg, recaro's etc... This car is the wildcard price to feature competitor to many different types of sports cars. It sets a performance bar that hasn't been met in the price range in spite of its shytty interior.

Respectable to who? They sold a lot of them, but they were basically Chrysler Sebring with a better powertrain. They were like the Mustangs from Japan, oh wait, they weren't built in Japan, heck they weren't even sold in Japan.

FairladyZ · 12-28-2012, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600

Respectable to who? They sold a lot of them, but they were basically Chrysler Sebring with a better powertrain. They were like the Mustangs from Japan, oh wait, they weren't built in Japan, heck they weren't even sold in Japan.

You lost me here? The evo was sold in Japan.

UNKNOWN_370 · 12-28-2012, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600

Agree, but they sure do have great racing programs.

I live in the hills of New England and I drive it like a normal car. The only way a normal car can touch the hybrid's fuel mileage is on the highway at a very high speed. The faster you go in a hybrid, the less efficient they are. At 75mph cruise, it gets 42-44mpg no matter what you do. Also there are over three generators of hybrid and they are different types depending on year, you can't just assume all are the same. The new Camry Hybrid is a completely different system than the previous generators, it's like 10-20% more fuel efficient. Also not all hybrids are slow. Porsche and VW built performance hybrid powertrains. Lexus has hybrids over 300HP.

Respectable to who? They sold a lot of them, but they were basically Chrysler Sebring with a better powertrain. They were like the Mustangs from Japan, oh wait, they weren't built in Japan, heck they weren't even sold in Japan.

WTF are you talking about????

FairladyZ · 12-28-2012, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

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WTF are you talking about????

Yeah he was fine until that last paragraph, he doesn't know wtf he's saying lol

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