Mitsubishi motors a dying brand in US?

UNKNOWN_370

No they didn't. The Civic Si and CRZ are Performance marvels.

UNKNOWN_370

Its terribly sad if you ask me. Mitsubishi had the first Turbocharged ecu tunable successful sports car. The 1982 Mitsubishi Starion was an affordable sports car marvel. The Starion went from RWD to FWD/AWD in the mitsubishi eclipse in 1990 but was a highly respectable sports car till 1999.
If Mitsu would go back to the 90's formula of sports car making, they will instantly become leaders in the tuner segment. The Evo x, while its a great performing car. Has certain traits that limits the consumer buy-ability of this car. The new eclipse has no capability whatsoever and is basically a snazzy grocery getter. Mitsu fell off and it doesn't have to be this way. They know what it takes to make a great performance platform. They,re just not making any real effort to do so.

m4a1mustang

CRZ... what a waste. That would have been a cool car if they put a K series in it but it's the sport-hybrid nonsense.

Civic Si... I liked them up until the latest refresh.

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DEpointfive0

The Evo X is awesome, not gonna lie, I TRIED to buy one of those before the 370, but no where had one and the least modified one was modified to high hell... So it was a no go from me...

If Mitsubishi kicks the bucket I don't think I'd care... Nice knowing you and all, I liked the 3000GT, but feel free to GTFO

UNKNOWN_370

In spite of what some people think about the Evo. If we lost it? The sports car market would become so much less competitive and we'd start seeing crappier sports cars as a whole. The evo is one of the most important sports cars out there just because at $38k you can have one of the most advanced AWD systems as well as the most advanced DCT transmission in the price range, Add in the Brembo pkg, recaro's etc... This car is the wildcard price to feature competitor to many different types of sports cars. It sets a performance bar that hasn't been met in the price range in spite of its shytty interior.

cossie1600

Agree, but they sure do have great racing programs.

I live in the hills of New England and I drive it like a normal car. The only way a normal car can touch the hybrid's fuel mileage is on the highway at a very high speed. The faster you go in a hybrid, the less efficient they are. At 75mph cruise, it gets 42-44mpg no matter what you do. Also there are over three generators of hybrid and they are different types depending on year, you can't just assume all are the same. The new Camry Hybrid is a completely different system than the previous generators, it's like 10-20% more fuel efficient. Also not all hybrids are slow. Porsche and VW built performance hybrid powertrains. Lexus has hybrids over 300HP.

Respectable to who? They sold a lot of them, but they were basically Chrysler Sebring with a better powertrain. They were like the Mustangs from Japan, oh wait, they weren't built in Japan, heck they weren't even sold in Japan.

FairladyZ

You lost me here? The evo was sold in Japan.

UNKNOWN_370

WTF are you talking about????

FairladyZ

Yeah he was fine until that last paragraph, he doesn't know wtf he's saying lol

cossie1600

Mitsubishi eclipse. one of the most overrated car of all time

UNKNOWN_370

Not for the time it wasn't. And I was talking about the Starions that were built in Nyogi and Aichi Japan. @ $19k the eclipse gsx (which is the one to get) was a lot of car for the money and highly tunable.

Your comments are about 9 years ahead from the starions.

cossie1600

Not arguing with you over the Starion, I am just saying the Eclipse was an overrated car. It was a cheap coupe with a little turbo and awd, it was almost like our current Scion TC with a different powertrain configuration. Car was never known to be a great driver or great handler, it was just popular because of the modify crowd.

UNKNOWN_370

Yeah but you highlighted my post and ranted about the eclipse when all i mentioned about the eclipse was that the starion was transformed into the eclipse. The very first gen eclipse wasn't bad. In the early 90's, most cars in the $14k-21k range sucked. Most muscle cars with sub 7 second 60 times were about $25k.
Most japanese imports that were worth buying cost between $30-50k, Entry level bimmers of the time handled like a dream but were slow and entry level was $25k.
The initial eclipse models in turbo form hit 60 in about 6.7 seconds with a high 14 quarter and had all wheel drive and cost about 19k, 6k lower than the comp. Turbos were small but piping was there, and upgrading those types of cars pre-Fast & Furious was cheap. Mitsu was looked down upon by most upper middle class citizens of the day who expected out the box power and simple mods for big gains...

Guys who didn't mind elbow grease. Can do some damage with the early eclipse with a little bit of money. NOT saying mitsu's were track Gods... but if well modified? They held there own. Were decent handlers and for budget conscious car buyers they served its pupose. That's why I called the starion and early eclipses resptectable.

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Cmike2780

I like the Evo 10 and always wanted a 3000GT VR-4. It would be sad to see the company go, even though their lineup is a bit of a let down these days.

The 2nd gen Eclipse wasn't really the best at anything, but it was a relatively affordable "sporty" two-door that looked really great. The mid to late 90's wasn't exactly the best years for sports cars considering this was introduced just as the 300ZX, RX-7 & Supra were saying their goodbye's in North America. If you look back at when the Eclipse was worth looking at, you'd see there wasn't a lot to choose from. This had the styling of a Japanese import without the pricetag of the true sports cars. The 3rd and 4th generation Eclipse just flat out tried too hard and look like crap. They destroyed the one thing going for it, the design.

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