I'm not hating on my Z at all. The Z is a fast and fun car. But this news means that the toyobaru has great tuning potential!!!

You would trade your 11 Z for a BRZ. Really?

The motor has been out since the 90s and has a huge after market.

I am sure insurance is much cheaper too!

Yay a BRZ is actually making some power and turning in good times, that still wont make me want to trade my Z in for it. Do a nice FI kit on a Z and some slicks and you will hit even better times than that BRZ turned in, so I dont know why everyone is getting their panties in a bunch over this.







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I still think it's a bit of a downgrade with the current offering. This BRZ still has a ton of unknowns, especially how much the stock motor can take without having to buy a new one at 5k miles. Buying an NA BRZ involves a whole lot of time experimenting just to get it to the same level Z and you pretty much throw the warranty out the window. An STi Version would be more reasonable, but you're looking at something that will likely cost the same if/when they bring it to market. At that point, the Z will be overdue for an refresh from Nissan.

There's Big difference between the VQ engines from the 90's and the current offering. It shares the basic architecture, but that's pretty much where it ends. You could even argue that the VR38DETT shares the same architecture.

I'm in a weird mood today. Don't mind me! :ughdance:


I'm probably trading in my Z next year for something more practical to me. Probably a small SUV. When I come back into the market for a tuning car, I more than likely will not be getting a Z. It is a great and wonderful car, but hard to work on and very expensive to get HP out of. Modified evo's, sti's, and now BRZ's are putting up better numbers and easier to deal with.

If an STI version of the BRZ does come out, you bet your butt the Z will be traded in for one.

wat?

I'm guessing he thinks it the 2.5 Subby has been using since well the 90's

I thought he was talking about the VQ. Either way...

Finally, at least one person that gets it. This post is just all sorts of bias.

First you run 20 pounds. A Z with 20 pounds would probably be WELL into the NINES. It would smoke this POS Toyota. Remember the suspension is designed by the guys that make CAMRY suspesnsion. What do you expect to happen? You can even hear the engine breaking as it does the track. I bet it doesn't even last for many passes. I have a finely tuned ear from years of tuning cars and I can hear that it is too much boost.
Plus the car is running E85. That is like nitrous for subarus. You woulnd't compare a NOS powered Z to a NON-ASPIRATED Subaru, why would you do the reverse.

RED6SPD is right...you guys are just HATERS!!!!!!!!!

LOL! I think its awesome what they are doing with the little subby and its things like this that make the aftermarket for the cars a much better place. I hope they hit 10's that would be sick. But as mentioned before don't come on here saying "oh boy look the Z cant do that".

I'm not hating on the Z or saying it will never do that speed, but it hasn't yet. I'd love to see it, though. :tup:

True, anything over 12lbs will probably make the Z implode without an overhaul of the engine with complete forged internals... But is the scion/brz car on a forged or stock engine? And how many 20psi passes will it hold till it busts??? Thats the real question. How long has the brz been running this kinda boost?

I don't think a single person here is a "hater", they just want to know why no one has done the same thing with a Z yet, and questioning if it is possible.

Not worshipping the ground your car drives on isn't "hating" and that's the attitude that can give the Z a bad name. Although from what I read of yours from another topic, I doubt you'll understand anything I'm saying. You took something remarkably simple and turned into an attack on the Z when it wasn't even the car in question. (See: 2014 wrx topic)

Seriously, think before you post.