Ford Focus ST Priced < $25k

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

I will agree that sport oriented FWD, is a shrinking market on an enthusiast level. Enthusiasts have become tired of substituting for new fwd sport vehicles and rather just find an affordable used RWD vehicle. This is why companies like Scion, subaru and hyundai are filling the gap with mid 20k RWD sports cars. Its almost over for FWD in this segment. There will just have to be cheaper RWD and AWD vehicles now if the corporations want to make money on new car sales.
I still think the ST is nice for what it is though. Though FWD has much less fans now in the enthusiast market... I see it appealing to family men that need practical but sporty. I don't think it will hit the enthusiast market too hard. A great DD for guys like us it will make as well. This car is rumored to be able to get in the 36mpg range highway.

Originally Posted by bigdog1250

I wouldn't say its over for FWD at all. While I prefer RWD, GTIs have been selling out the ying yang for the past decade. Everywhere I look I see one. While the Mazadaspeed 3 is a rare bird, the VW counterpart is not. VW got it right in this segment and has been enjoying its success.

$25k for this car is by no means overpriced.

Originally Posted by bigdog1250

I wouldn't say its over for FWD at all. While I prefer RWD, GTIs have been selling out the ying yang for the past decade. Everywhere I look I see one. While the Mazadaspeed 3 is a rare bird, the VW counterpart is not. VW got it right in this segment and has been enjoying its success.

$25k for this car is by no means overpriced.

Originally Posted by Red__Zed

The GTI doesn't really sell to enthusiasts though. It sells to people that want a sport entry to german makes, and people that cross shop the civic si.

Originally Posted by bigdog1250

There's all different levels of enthusiasm

I don't consider AWD the choice of a true enthusiast either.

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Do you realize that AWD has the Rallye segment. RWD has the drift autocross and formula segement... what segment does FWD have? The I need a new drivetrain to put my car in a competition segment??? Lol. There is NO enthusiasm for FWD.

Originally Posted by vividracing

I guess you've never been to a NASA or SCCA event, or FF Battle/Super Lap Battle/Honda Challenge/various rally events/tons of other series and events. There's PLENTY of enthusiasm for FWD.







If there was no enthusiasm for these cars, automakers wouldn't be producing them.

Originally Posted by bigdog1250

There's all different levels of enthusiasm

I don't consider AWD the choice of a true enthusiast either.