The horsepower race has gone nuclear: 2013 GT500

m4a1mustang · 06-13-2012, 10:24 AM

I'd like to see the two cars on a real track with a professional driver ala the ZL1/Boss test.

Definitely think the GT500 would fare much better with more rubber. The ZL1 has so much more contact patch. Ford did get their LC right, though, because in the right hands the '13 is pretty sick in the 1/4 mile.

Shamu · 06-13-2012, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

I'd like to see the two cars on a real track with a professional driver ala the ZL1/Boss test.

Definitely think the GT500 would fare much better with more rubber. The ZL1 has so much more contact patch. Ford did get their LC right, though, because in the right hands the '13 is pretty sick in the 1/4 mile.

However as a daily driver GTR would smack this new GT500 off the line in most street scenarios. Not saying racing but you know fun little sprints off the line on wide open roads with no traffic. I have to laugh as I used to pull up next to big hot GT500s at stop lights in my AWD Mazdaspeed 6 gt and drop the clutch right at torque sweet spot at 2700 rpm and my car would jump off line with no wheel spin. gT500 drivers would be squealing tires behind me and not catch me until middle of second gear. Then they would want to do stupid stuff to prove their cars were faster.

These over 500 hp Mustangs are just stupid. I guess if you live for Drag racing a at the track it would be ok? ....but Really? 600 + hp in piece o crap mustang? I know it's been done for years but why not focus on making the car handle? Pull weight out etc.

ford is really disappointing me.

nuTinmuch · 06-13-2012, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Shamu

However as a daily driver GTR would smack this new GT500 off the line in most street scenarios. Not saying racing but you know fun little sprints off the line on wide open roads with no traffic. I have to laugh as I used to pull up next to big hot GT500s at stop lights in my AWD Mazdaspeed 6 gt and drop the clutch right at torque sweet spot at 2700 rpm and my car would jump off line with no wheel spin. gT500 drivers would be squealing tires behind me and not catch me until middle of second gear. Then they would want to do stupid stuff to prove their cars were faster.

These over 500 hp Mustangs are just stupid. I guess if you live for Drag racing a at the track it would be ok? ....but Really? 600 + hp in piece o crap mustang? I know it's been done for years but why not focus on making the car handle? Pull weight out etc.

ford is really disappointing me.

Palm to face.

Nikkolai · 06-13-2012, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Shamu

These over 500 hp Mustangs are just stupid. I guess if you live for Drag racing a at the track it would be ok? ....but Really? 600 + hp in piece o crap mustang? I know it's been done for years but why not focus on making the car handle? Pull weight out etc.

ford is really disappointing me.

See 2011 Mustang 5.0, then Boss 302, and especially Boss 302 Laguna Seca. Lap times at Laguna Seca will show proof of said handling.

Shamu · 06-13-2012, 10:34 PM

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See 2011 Mustang 5.0, then Boss 302, and especially Boss 302 Laguna Seca. Lap times at Laguna Seca will show proof of said handling.

Anyone who has driven Laguna knows its a power course. Hell big boat of Porsche Panamera Turbo whipped Boss 302 around Laguna. Certainly wouldn't point to Laguna lap times as proof it's a handling car.?

Nope Mustang pretty much sucks major a$& in handling department. Don't have to look much further than Solo Nationals results for Ford porkers to see all that handling. Lol!

Iceagetlc · 06-13-2012, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Shamu

Anyone who has driven Laguna knows its a power course. Hell big boat of Porsche Panamera Turbo whipped Boss 302 around Laguna. Certainly wouldn't point to Laguna lap times as proof it's a handling car.?

Nope Mustang pretty much sucks major a$& in handling department. Don't have to look much further than Solo Nationals results for Ford porkers to see all that handling.

You're right I thought the handling on tight courses wouldn't matter in my purchase but damndest thing my new job takes me straight through Tsukaba raceway. Talk about an embarassing commute.

shadoquad · 06-13-2012, 10:56 PM

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You're right I thought the handling on tight courses wouldn't matter in my purchase but damndest thing my new job takes me straight through Tsukaba raceway. Talk about an embarassing commute.

Plus it snows a lot.

Iceagetlc · 06-13-2012, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Shamu

However as a daily driver GTR would smack this new GT500 off the line in most street scenarios. Not saying racing but you know fun little sprints off the line on wide open roads with no traffic. I have to laugh as I used to pull up next to big hot GT500s at stop lights in my AWD Mazdaspeed 6 gt and drop the clutch right at torque sweet spot at 2700 rpm and my car would jump off line with no wheel spin. gT500 drivers would be squealing tires behind me and not catch me until middle of second gear. Then they would want to do stupid stuff to prove their cars were faster.

These over 500 hp Mustangs are just stupid. I guess if you live for Drag racing a at the track it would be ok? ....but Really? 600 + hp in piece o crap mustang? I know it's been done for years but why not focus on making the car handle? Pull weight out etc.

ford is really disappointing me.

Let's do a quick off the line sprint just for fun

As for the story, I call BS. I've never seen a streetable Mazda 6. Did you detune it? How would you even register it?

Shamu · 06-13-2012, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Iceagetlc

Let's do a quick off the line sprint just for fun

As for the story, I call BS. I've never seen a streetable Mazda 6. Did you detune it? How would you even register it?

Huh? Plenty of street legal Mazdaspeed 6s . Here watch a few of this guys runs. Not many people know about these cars. Direct injected 2.3 liter turbo. Essentially Mazda version of Ford 4 cylinder with a turbo. Torque monsters with granny gears for first and second.

mustang GT 2005 supercharge VS mazdaspeed 6 2006 @ - Car Videos on StreetFire

shadoquad · 06-13-2012, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Shamu

Huh? Plenty of street legal Mazdaspeed 6s . Here watch a few of this guys runs. Not many people know about these cars. Direct injected 2.3 liter turbo. Essentially Mazda version of Ford 4 cylinder with a turbo. Torque monsters with granny gears for first and second.

mustang GT 2005 supercharge VS mazdaspeed 6 2006 @ - Car Videos on StreetFire

Mazdaspeed3 engine with AWD

Shamu · 06-13-2012, 10:38 PM

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Mazdaspeed3 engine with AWD

Yeah with no electronic limiter in 1st Or second like Mazdaspeed 3. Sleeper car for sure. I had fun with it.

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