Camaro ZL1 Nurburgring Lap Time

m4a1mustang · 10-07-2011, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

Then try looking at it in light of the GT500.

Speaking of the GT500, there is a rumor going around that Ford's 2013 GT500 test mule did it in the 7:34 area. Like I said, just a rumor... hasn't been confirmed or denied by Ford yet.

theDreamer · 10-07-2011, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

Then try looking at it in light of the GT500.

But Ford has no car above the Mustang currently, where GM does.
I honestly would take a Corvette any day of the week over the ZL1.

shadoquad · 10-07-2011, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

But Ford has no car above the Mustang currently, where GM does.
I honestly would take a Corvette any day of the week over the ZL1.

ditto

m4a1mustang · 10-07-2011, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

But Ford has no car above the Mustang currently, where GM does.
I honestly would take a Corvette any day of the week over the ZL1.

There is a market, though, that prefers a car like the Camaro/Mustang over a 2-seater like the Corvette. So that's where the ZL1/GT500 fits.

theDreamer · 10-07-2011, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Speaking of the GT500, there is a rumor going around that Ford's 2013 GT500 test mule did it in the 7:34 area. Like I said, just a rumor... hasn't been confirmed or denied by Ford yet.

The 'rumor' on time has not been confirmed but someone who is on the team said (after the ZL1 time was posted) they are already below the time and still have some more room.

ImportConvert · 10-07-2011, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

But Ford has no car above the Mustang currently, where GM does.
I honestly would take a Corvette any day of the week over the ZL1.

So would I, but GM is trying to compete with Ford on EVERY level. Are you trying to argue that the ZL1 is NOT the answer to the GT500?

shadoquad · 10-07-2011, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

There is a market, though, that prefers a car like the Camaro/Mustang over a 2-seater like the Corvette. So that's where the ZL1/GT500 fits.

that market has kids and a wife and doesn't deserve a fast car.

theDreamer · 10-07-2011, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

There is a market, though, that prefers a car like the Camaro/Mustang over a 2-seater like the Corvette. So that's where the ZL1/GT500 fits.

I agree with that, not everyone can have a 2 seat car but still just buying a 50k Camaro/Mustang.

ImportConvert · 10-07-2011, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Speaking of the GT500, there is a rumor going around that Ford's 2013 GT500 test mule did it in the 7:34 area. Like I said, just a rumor... hasn't been confirmed or denied by Ford yet.

I am highly doubting a 3800# car with chicken-legs is within a dozen seconds of the Z06 Z07 and the GT-R and "regular" Viper. I am just not seeing it. If that is fact....wow. Lets see Ford publish it

m4a1mustang · 10-07-2011, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

The 'rumor' on time has not been confirmed but someone who is on the team said (after the ZL1 time was posted) they are already below the time and still have some more room.

An interesting thing that we need to note about Nurburging times is that, well, they don't really tell us all that much.

Think about it.

One lap of the Nurburgring is LONG. There are a lot of places to make mistakes, so even for the best drivers it's very difficult to get the "perfect" lap. I would say it is probably fair to assume that a great driver leaves at least a few seconds on the table even on their best lap. So if we are looking at a car that runs 7:40 and another that runds 7:35... they are in effect the same thing.

Still pretty damn cool to see what numbers they can put down, though.

Red370 · 10-07-2011, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

I am highly doubting a 3800# car with chicken-legs is within a dozen seconds of the Z06 Z07 and the GT-R and "regular" Viper. I am just not seeing it. If that is fact....wow. Lets see Ford publish it

well, if a 4100 lb. car can run a 7:41, I think a 3800 lb. car with more power can run a bit faster.

ImportConvert · 10-07-2011, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Red370

well, if a 4100 lb. car can run a 7:41, I think a 3800 lb. car with more power can run a bit faster.

What 4100# car without AWD runs 7:41?

m4a1mustang · 10-07-2011, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

I am highly doubting a 3800# car with chicken-legs is within a dozen seconds of the Z06 Z07 and the GT-R and "regular" Viper. I am just not seeing it. If that is fact....wow. Lets see Ford publish it

Like I said, it's rumor at this point. Ford won't publish anything until they make an official announcement on the car, so it's all speculation.

The only thing confirmed for the 2013 GT500 is a 5.8L supercharged V8.

theDreamer · 10-07-2011, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

An interesting thing that we need to note about Nurburging times is that, well, they don't really tell us all that much.

Think about it.

One lap of the Nurburgring is LONG. There are a lot of places to make mistakes, so even for the best drivers it's very difficult to get the "perfect" lap. I would say it is probably fair to assume that a great driver leaves at least a few seconds on the table even on their best lap. So if we are looking at a car that runs 7:40 and another that runds 7:35... they are in effect the same thing.

Still pretty damn cool to see what numbers they can put down, though.

Exactly and there is no 'rules' to these times, no official start point or anything.
I think it is a great tool to compare cars but we all saw the Nissan/Porsche debate back when the R35 GT-R first launched.

theDreamer · 10-07-2011, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Like I said, it's rumor at this point. Ford won't publish anything until they make an official announcement on the car, so it's all speculation.

The only thing confirmed for the 2013 GT500 is a 5.8L supercharged V8.

And some body redesign parts, no clue if that will help with aero or not.

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