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Originally Posted by Armonster I'm with IC on this one. It's not as if the Z has set the benchmark for a perfectly balanced car in the first place. It's

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Old 09-29-2011, 08:45 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I'm with IC on this one. It's not as if the Z has set the benchmark for a perfectly balanced car in the first place. It's only when all the competition has over 400 hp that people will start saying "oh yeah, well the Z is more balanced!" That's just another way of saying underpowered. Think of it this way: if the suspension/brakes/chassis of the Z are great, then the car could handle 400 hp and still be "balanced." To say that the car wouldn't be balanced with that much hp is just saying that the rest of the car is not up to the task. It just doesn't seem like a winning proposition either way.

Don't get me wrong, I love the Z - that's why I don't want to see it fall behind.
Dude, I never said "oh yeah, well the Z is more balanced!"

I meant that even though it's certainly not lacking in the "balanced" department, it make for a better sports car if they focus improving that aspect instead of just dumping a turbo or supercharger. Nissan needs to make the Z truly lighter (closer to 3k lbs) & bump up the torque and hp without going FI.

Cars like the Elise/Exige, though not particularly powerfull when you just look at the engine spec., are quick when you see the whole package. That's kind of where I want Nissan to go with the next Z. It's certainly feasable considering how the 370 evolved from the 350. If you only look at the power bump, it's only a 26hp increase. We all know by now, how much faster the 370 is, so logic would tell you its not just more power.
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Dude, I never said "oh yeah, well the Z is more balanced!"

I meant that even though it's certainly not lacking in the "balanced" department, it make for a better sports car if they focus improving that aspect instead of just dumping a turbo or supercharger. Nissan needs to make the Z truly lighter (closer to 3k lbs) & bump up the torque and hp without going FI.

Cars like the Elise/Exige, though not particularly powerfull when you just look at the engine spec., are quick when you see the whole package. That's kind of where I want Nissan to go with the next Z. It's certainly feasable considering how the 370 evolved from the 350. If you only look at the power bump, it's only a 26hp increase. We all know by now, how much faster the 370 is, so logic would tell you its not just more power.
I didn't mean to imply that I was quoting you directly, my friend. In any event, I think we both agree that more hp/lb is the answer. Less weight would be ideal, but it seems cheaper and easier for Nissan to just add power. I would take either option, though (or both).
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