FT-86 vs 370z time to trade in?

eddieconfetti · 04-24-2011, 05:41 PM

Always say never to toyota. Unless it is an lfa.

BeachZTT · 04-24-2011, 05:41 PM

I like the styling. It's a good looking car. Not for me though. Dropping almost 200 hp from my TT to the 370, no way I would sacrafice another 100!

spearfish25 · 04-24-2011, 06:29 PM

Watch the FT-86 turn into a girlie car like the Celica. 200hp wasn't even enough in a car like the Lotus Elise. Hence the Exige and Exige S.

AlphaSnacks · 04-24-2011, 07:25 PM

If they can match the interior of the 370Z in fit, finish, and aesthetics, on top of provide a punchy, mod friendly, and adequately powerful motor on a light car...then the FT revival car will prove worthy.

But seeing as how Toyota execs are billing this as more of a Miata MX5 fighter, I wouldn't bet on any of the above happening. Here's what I predict:

2.0L H4
200HP @ 7500RPM
150TQ @ 2000RPM
2750-2800lbs (Options pending)
2+2 Seating

Lemers · 04-24-2011, 08:21 PM

I think this car looks good as a concept but still seems like a down grade from the Z

esfourteen · 04-24-2011, 08:27 PM

I'll trade in my Z when nissan puts out a TT Z from the factory.

Waiz · 04-24-2011, 08:36 PM

Not unless you like torque!

Plus this keeps getting delayed it won't be out until 2013 with all the issues Toyota has been having.

CrownR426 · 04-24-2011, 10:39 PM

This will not perform on the same level as the z.
Stock vs Stock no...
But when modding goes anything wins.

spearfish25 · 04-25-2011, 07:36 AM

If the new Alfa 4C comes to the US in an affordable package, I'd buy that and never even consider the FT-86.

***Addendum

Although...I just read the next page in my CAR Magazine and the Subaru STI version of the FT-86 might get my attention.

spearfish25 · 04-25-2011, 07:50 AM

Even more food for thought...the latest Esflow update. Apparently the seats are molded into the rear bulkhead and the steering wheel and pedals adjust. About damn time, Nissan.

2011 Nismo#91 · 04-25-2011, 08:51 AM

370z 3,300/330=10lb/hp
FT86 x,x00/200=10lb/hp

Unless it has something else going for it its going to have to be around the weight of a Lotus Elise/Exige. But I doubt that, it will be around the same weight of other small 2 seat cars, 2,700-3,100 lbs. (Miata/S2000 plus the weight of a roof ~300lbs)

Edit: If they stress a little more on safety and use more cheaper materials to keeps costs down, it may end up heavier then a Z.

spearfish25 · 04-25-2011, 10:51 AM

The Subie STI version is speculated to have over 270hp in the article I posted.

280z/300zx · 04-25-2011, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by spearfish25

The Subie STI version is speculated to have over 270hp in the article I posted.

It's funny the article states this when most suby informers and the suby boards all say the suby version won't have turbo and will just be a slightly different design compared to the toyota. I'd love to see a STI motor in this car but there really hasn't been any hard evidence to suggest it will happen. All the major evidence of this car points to a 2.0 NA with 200 or less hp.

Red__Zed · 04-25-2011, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phelan

The problem with the Subaru though is it won't stay in the 20k price range, the cost will shoot up like crazy to get all the basic Subie stuff - AWD, boxer engine, blah blah blah. Unless they do keep the Toyota engine in there...which would be kinda weird I think. Subie without a boxer engine...hmmph.

No AWD. All models will have a subaru engine in them, either a tuned up EJ20 or the new FB20.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 280z/300zx

It's funny the article states this when most suby informers and the suby boards all say the suby version won't have turbo and will just be a slightly different design compared to the toyota. I'd love to see a STI motor in this car but there really hasn't been any hard evidence to suggest it will happen. All the major evidence of this car points to a 2.0 NA with 200 or less hp.

What subaru boards are saying that?

There's a test mule running around a couple places with an EJ207 and a twin scroll straight out of the J- spec STI, and another one with the EJ257 and the VF48.

kenchan · 04-25-2011, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red__Zed

twin scroll straight out of the J- spec STI, and another one with the EJ257 and the VF48.

is there one for the FJFJFJFJFJ999PPPXXLFKFD and PPOO11FFDDIFISOI0RUSERIOUS?

04-24-2011, 05:41 PM	#2 (permalink)
BeachZTT Track Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 746 Drives: '10 BC ZR T/S/Nav Rep Power: 18	I like the styling. It's a good looking car. Not for me though. Dropping almost 200 hp from my TT to the 370, no way I would sacrafice another 100! __________________ '10 ZR Black Cherry Sport/Touring/Nav, Swift Springs, Stillen G3s, 15mm-F 20mm-R Spacers, SPC, Spoiler Solutions Rear Wing, Stubby Antenna

04-24-2011, 06:29 PM	#3 (permalink)
spearfish25 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Naples, FL Posts: 4,117 Drives: to work Rep Power: 1857	Watch the FT-86 turn into a girlie car like the Celica. 200hp wasn't even enough in a car like the Lotus Elise. Hence the Exige and Exige S. __________________ 2013 Cadillac V-Wagon, RIP Z

04-24-2011, 07:25 PM	#4 (permalink)
AlphaSnacks A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Windermere, FL Posts: 1,618 Drives: '13 XKR-S, '10 370Z Rep Power: 19	If they can match the interior of the 370Z in fit, finish, and aesthetics, on top of provide a punchy, mod friendly, and adequately powerful motor on a light car...then the FT revival car will prove worthy. But seeing as how Toyota execs are billing this as more of a Miata MX5 fighter, I wouldn't bet on any of the above happening. Here's what I predict: 2.0L H4 200HP @ 7500RPM 150TQ @ 2000RPM 2750-2800lbs (Options pending) 2+2 Seating Last edited by AlphaSnacks; 04-24-2011 at 07:32 PM.

04-24-2011, 08:21 PM	#5 (permalink)
Lemers A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Izmir, Turkey Posts: 15,371 Drives: 2012 Traverse LTZ Rep Power: 53	I think this car looks good as a concept but still seems like a down grade from the Z __________________ 2010 Black Cherry Touring/Sport/Nav Now - 2012 Travese LTZ until I leave for Turkey

04-24-2011, 08:27 PM	#6 (permalink)
esfourteen A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: LI, NY Posts: 1,375 Drives: 40th TT Rep Power: 19	I'll trade in my Z when nissan puts out a TT Z from the factory. __________________ Build Thread \| GTM TT Install Thread \| Engine Build Thread

04-24-2011, 05:41 PM	#1 (permalink)
eddieconfetti A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Duluth, GA Posts: 3,334 Drives: A Totaled PW Z Rep Power: 24	Always say never to toyota. Unless it is an lfa.

04-24-2011, 08:36 PM	#7 (permalink)
Waiz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: SoCal Posts: 9,262 Drives: Z33 & GE8 Rep Power: 460	Not unless you like torque! Plus this keeps getting delayed it won't be out until 2013 with all the issues Toyota has been having.

04-24-2011, 10:39 PM	#8 (permalink)
CrownR426 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: South Korea Posts: 4,676 Drives: Manual Rep Power: 848	This will not perform on the same level as the z. Stock vs Stock no... But when modding goes anything wins. __________________ Love + Hardwork + Passion RIP SVTRacer

04-25-2011, 07:50 AM	#10 (permalink)
spearfish25 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Naples, FL Posts: 4,117 Drives: to work Rep Power: 1857	Even more food for thought...the latest Esflow update. Apparently the seats are molded into the rear bulkhead and the steering wheel and pedals adjust. About damn time, Nissan. __________________ 2013 Cadillac V-Wagon, RIP Z

04-25-2011, 08:51 AM	#11 (permalink)
2011 Nismo#91 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: NJ Posts: 2,413 Drives: slowly Rep Power: 40570	370z 3,300/330=10lb/hp FT86 x,x00/200=10lb/hp Unless it has something else going for it its going to have to be around the weight of a Lotus Elise/Exige. But I doubt that, it will be around the same weight of other small 2 seat cars, 2,700-3,100 lbs. (Miata/S2000 plus the weight of a roof ~300lbs) Edit: If they stress a little more on safety and use more cheaper materials to keeps costs down, it may end up heavier then a Z. Last edited by 2011 Nismo#91; 04-25-2011 at 08:54 AM.

04-25-2011, 10:51 AM	#12 (permalink)
spearfish25 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Naples, FL Posts: 4,117 Drives: to work Rep Power: 1857	The Subie STI version is speculated to have over 270hp in the article I posted. __________________ 2013 Cadillac V-Wagon, RIP Z

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