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Originally Posted by Whitey#1 And how often did you have to change the oil? $85 once or twice a year for an oil change to drive a BMW doesnt seem

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Old 03-14-2011, 02:21 PM   #31 (permalink)
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And how often did you have to change the oil? $85 once or twice a year for an oil change to drive a BMW doesnt seem too bad.

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Probably once every 6 weeks or so.

The oil changes were really not that bad compared to some of the maintenance. Even if you did the work yourself, the parts were out of control...
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Probably once every 6 weeks or so.

The oil changes were really not that bad compared to some of the maintenance. Even if you did the work yourself, the parts were out of control...
You must have put a lot of miles on that BMW. I doubt i would put more than 10,000 miles a year on the Porsche, maybe not even that.

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I am going to the Porsche dealership this saturday. Can anyone give me some tips on what to say, ask, etc?

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I went to the dealership yesterday and the salesman and i took a test drive in a Cayman. Awesome car, incredible handling.

Anyway, afterwards back at the dealership i told the salesman what color(s) i would prefer and he said they might be hard to find. I asked him if Porsche only had a geographic area to dealer trade with (say the midwest) or if they could get a Porsche from anywhere (the entire U.S) and he said all over.

Then......he says if they have to go too far there would be transportation costs incurred. Do any of you guys know if this is normal? If they have to ship a Porsche from, say Florida or California, to Indiana should i have to pay to have it shipped?

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sounds right to me.. you could always find the one you want and fly out and drive it home
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sounds right to me.. you could always find the one you want and fly out and drive it home


That's what I would do. You get the exact car you want and a perfect chance to get to know it
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if they want the sale, they will eat the transportation cost..
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I've never been a Porsche fan but I really like how the Cayman looks. I like the proportions, doesn't look bloated. I would get the Cayman r. The 911 isn't much more but I just think the Cayman looks better. I will wait and see how the 2013 Cayman looks, I've seen the prototype and it looks bigger. I won't be trading in the z because I need a reliable daily driver. So who has a Cayman and enjoys it?
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lol if I wanted to I could of gotten a cayman/boxer.

but I hate porsches. they look outdated/overpriced and too expensive to maintain.

looks like I really don't like german car brands.

I don't like BMW,audi,mercedes except for their hyper cars/porsche.

im more for japanese/british cars

aston martin , jaguar cars like the XJR and so on.

though my most favorite car brand is still lamborghini.
You complain about Porsche maintenance, stating it is one of the reasons you hate them, and your favorite is a lambo and british cars?!?
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I've never been a Porsche fan but I really like how the Cayman looks. I like the proportions, doesn't look bloated. I would get the Cayman r. The 911 isn't much more but I just think the Cayman looks better. I will wait and see how the 2013 Cayman looks, I've seen the prototype and it looks bigger. I won't be trading in the z because I need a reliable daily driver. So who has a Cayman and enjoys it?
I don't, but just looking at the numbers, why? The only reason I could think of is because it's a smoother, nicer car. However, if it won't be your DD...so what?

If you want a weekend track car, a base C6 'vette from '08 up would blow your mind. If you want a status symbol or a comfy daily, then why talk about using your Z for a DD? I'm not seeing the reasoning behind this.

Yes, I bet a Cayman is a lot more refined than a 370Z regarding a few things, but I'm just not seeing the value equation working out very well.
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Yes, I bet a Cayman is a lot more refined than a 370Z regarding a few things, but I'm just not seeing the value equation working out very well.
I agree with most of what you said broski, however, I don't know if I would agree with the Cayman be that much more refined that the Z. I was drawn to the Cayman S when came time for the purchase and test drove a few of them just to be sure. The cayman interior left me absolutely COLD with all the chrome, plus the fact that I would have had to get a 2 or 3 years old Cayman S vs a brand new Nismo with more bang in terms of value + slightly more power. Easy choice.
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I looked at a vette and thought it looked lean but too long. I also didn't like how it was put together. It definitely is a fast car for the money. But I'm not looking for the fastest car.

I want something that looks like it's put together like a fine watch. Although it doesn't have to be as reliable as my z, because we know a Porsche is not. I simply want the cr because of how it looks and the engineering. It doesn't come with ac or a radio, which doesn't bother me. I've never really cared how the inside looks, just the exterior. I'm not looking for the best bang for the money as we all know the Porsche is not. My z will be paid off in a couple months and I will start savings for the next z or Cayman.
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I looked at a vette and thought it looked lean but too long. I also didn't like how it was put together. It definitely is a fast car for the money. But I'm not looking for the fastest car.

I want something that looks like it's put together like a fine watch. Although it doesn't have to be as reliable as my z, because we know a Porsche is not. I simply want the cr because of how it looks and the engineering. It doesn't come with ac or a radio, which doesn't bother me. I've never really cared how the inside looks, just the exterior. I'm not looking for the best bang for the money as we all know the Porsche is not. My z will be paid off in a couple months and I will start savings for the next z or Cayman.
Porsche stomped Nissan for PPH, though, actually, they led the class. If you want a "fine watch", then you may have found want you want.

I'd recommend waiting to see what the C7 looks like. GM has eaten a lot of crow over the interior and has stated that Audi is their target. I had a roommate with a BMW 3-series only a few years old and he says his new Chevy Cruze has a much better interior in every way. GM is turning over a new leaf, and I think you should give the C7 a good look, as well as the new Z when it comes out, and go from there.

We are reaching the tail-end of everything, and anything you buy now is about to be seriously 1-upped by the next revision of the line.

As to the C6 being long, it's no longer than a Porsche 911. Actually, it's shorter by a few inches. Further, it is roughly only 2" longer than your current 370Z. Do you think the 911 is long? How then is the shorter C6 TOO long? What about the Z? Would 2" kill it? Look how much more wheel-base you get for that 2" of length with the C6. Fine watch blah blah blah, but on the track it took Porsche 1/4 million to beat GM's $100K car. By about a second and a half. On a 7+ minute track. The 'Ring.

You did lose me on "how it was put together". I watched mine built from the frame up and the construction process made a lot of sense, and looked very well thought out. I was pleased. Currently, PPH was running 62 or something at the time. VERY low. Porsche was in the 70's for '09 or '10 I believe it was.

I doubt you meant how the parts interacted and how it was put together in the mechanical sense though, and you meant more "how it flowed"?

Probably harping on the interior. If you want what you say you do, I don't blame you. The interior in the C6 is fail. I love mine, but if we are honest, the interior is on the level with a base Cobalt.

The chassis, drive-line, and structure on the other hand, are world class. Whereas with the 370Z, you get a lot of neat and nifty quirks, but in the end I don't think it's nearly as well thought out. The Porsche is like a 370Z with a bigger budget--money to think out how to execute the design and mechanics better. The corvette, it uses a brute-force and "smart" approach. Parts are very durable, and the simplest path is always used. The LS7 V8 for example. It's the most powerful NA engine within 20# of its physical weight for under $50K (Mercedes AMG engines trump it in power a bit, and very slightly by weight, but at 250-400% the cost). People scoff at the pushrod/cam-in-block, but no-one can beat it for within eyesight of the price tag.

Anyway, I have not slept in nearly 20 hours. I'm rambling. If you want a finely crafted and tuned machine, buy the Porsche. If you want a machine that kicks *** but has a few rough edges, buy the C6. If you want to wait and see what comes out from Nissan, Ford, GM, and Europe in 2014, you can get something much better than anything currently available. Enjoy the Z. It's a nice car. Upgrade when you don't have to teeter-totter about whether or not it really IS an upgrade.

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The Corvette looks bigger than it is but it's still a great looking car. No doubt a vette is more powerful than a Cayman r. The 911 is longer than the z but the 911 looks smaller. It's because the lower part of the body bulges out but the roof and cabin area tapers in a lot. And the engine is in the back so the 911 doesn't have such a high and wide hood. I love bulging fenders but I like a narrow and low hood, and a small cabin.

What I meant about put together, I meant the alignment of the sheetmetal, the spacing and the length of the gap.
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The Corvette looks bigger than it is but it's still a great looking car. No doubt a vette is more powerful than a Cayman r. The 911 is longer than the z but the 911 looks smaller. It's because the lower part of the body bulges out but the roof and cabin area tapers in a lot. And the engine is in the back so the 911 doesn't have such a high and wide hood. I love bulging fenders but I like a narrow and low hood, and a small cabin.

What I meant about put together, I meant the alignment of the sheetmetal, the spacing and the length of the gap.
Have you looked at a new 'vette?

Reason I ask, is because when I looked at them in 2005, they looked horrible. Now in 2011/12YM, they are a lot better. Still, carbon-fiber and SMC will not be as precise as metal. Then, it's lighter and won't dent like metal, either. It's a trade-off.
All the gaps on my car were plasti-gauged and adjusted several times over at the factory. I watched. You would shat a brick if you knew how those panels were adjusted, lol.

It's obvious you don't want a 'vette, and from what you say I don't think you would be happy with one, I'm just throwing out info, that's all. Not trying to somehow "convince" you. Your mind is made up and that's cool, different strokes and all that.
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