:rolleyes:

I think what he is trying to say is that donkey's are stronger than horses

And then you have to live with this reputation

YouTube - HD - Mustang Week crash compilation

Wow, you're just trolling now. Ever see how many VDC-off 370Z crashes there are?

The Z doesn't exactly have the best reputation either.

And Ford sells a lot more stangs

And how about when you add in 350's?

Brain asplode.

Well, excluding the 2004 1/2 model that was so good, it actually lowered the crash count when included with the rest of the lesser Z's.

The 2004.5 350Z was F-L-A-W-L-E-S-S.

:bowrofl::roflpuke2::bowrofl:

(what happened to that guy anyway)

OK I'll make you feel better. Nearly 6 seconds faster than 370Z Nismo around Laguna Seca. Barf!

YouTube - M3 Killer! Ford Mustang Boss 302 Laps Laguna Seca

I know I don't post here a lot but I do read most of the threads. Owning a GT, I figured I'd throw in my 2 cents...

I recently sold my SRT8 Challenger for a 2012 Mustang GT 5.0 instead of a 370z, which is what I initially was going to purchase.

The Mustang is fast, loud and truly a LOT of fun. The engine is really the star of the show with the GT. It will "out do" the Z car really anyway you look at it.

That being said: In 1500 miles the car has spent more days at the dealer than my garage. There's an undiagnosed creaking/groaning from my suspension that I've tried 4 times at 2 different dealerships to fix and have been brushed aside, lied to and had my car rack up mysterious miles (approx 40) after being left overnight at the dealer. Also, my transmission (auto not manual) has a grinding when putting the car into Reverse and Neutral.

I think the Mustang is one hell of a car and Ford really has a monster on their hands, but so far I've been pretty dissatisfied with the Ford brand/personnel I've dealt with. And I really hope I'll be able to sell the car to a buddy soon.

Both are great cars and it's a great time...maybe the last great time, to be a car enthusiast. Buy what you love, drive what you love and show everyone else respect - give them the room to do the same.

/rant

Lol! With buddies like you who needs enemies.

Judging by this forum, they can't even be on the street without crashing.

everybody i know with a 5.0L has had zero problems. i know it looks bad, but some times there is problems with cars. even 370z have had problems like this where people bought one and it was in the shop the 2 days later.

Yikes, that sucks dude! I certainly hope you are taken care of and can move onto something you're more satisfied with.

Oh, and I put your last line in bold because those are some words we all can live by. Some people here certainly need think about them, that's for sure. :rolleyes:

Ironically, OP is selling the car to a "buddy" while talking about respecting others. I LOL'ed.

i had this, they replaced the shock, problems solved! Tell them to check the shock...mine was in the front passenger, you could hear it as soon as you took of or on decent sized bumper....mines a 2012 also

Keep pestering the dealership about it, maybe you can get them to lemon it for you.

This is what I'm thinking, too. Because I haven't heard too many new Stang owners complain about those issues.

Curious what kind of gas mileage do Mustangs get on track? With fuel prices going up poor fuel economy can add up. I know they are decent if you stay off the throttle but once your on throttle they must suck copius amounts of dead dino juice?

Also being sooo much heavier they must eat brake pads and tires like crazy.

I was surprised at how good my tire wear has been on track with the 370Z. I had a set of A6 Hoosiers with 6 autocrosses and did full day of 20 minute sessions on same tires and they still have a ton of tread. I suspect a Mustang wouldnt be so kind to soft tire like that?

dont nismos weigh around 3300? i weighed my 5.0 on accurate scales with out the spare tire and tools n half of tank of gas and it weigh 3512

212 pounds is not soooooo much lol

about gas mileage its pretty good for a V8

So far with 1500 miles I see about 17.6 mpg. Mostly city driving in congested areas of Baton Rouge. Not terrible for a v8 I guess.

On track though that's a pretty significant weight difference. The 5.0 is going to be closer in terms of tire, brake, and fuel consumption to the M3 than it would be to the Z.

Of course all are going to pale in comparison to the mighty Miata. If only every car was that cheap to operate. :icon17:

Truthiness. And those doors: :drool:

That's about where I was at that mileage. Now, some 12,000 miles later, I am right at around 18.5 mpg or better for my daily commute (the Z was around 19.5-20) and I see around 25-26 mpg highway on average. That's with the 3.73 gear.

I actually topped 30 mpg on the highway with the Z over flat ground on my way out to St. Louis... that was nice. :tup:

They're dynamite!

you guys are gay

Come hang out with the Mid-Atlantic 370Z Owner's Club and we'll show you gay. :stirthepot: :ugh2:


Nurse Shado will administer your daily dose of shado'erps. :yum:

I shaved my Mid-A section last night. it's a little irritated today :\

The nurse can help you out with that. The male nurse.

And those doors! Ooooooohhhhh baby! :stirthepot: Shadoquad beat me to it. But still

I just re-administered to toxik.

I'm running low. The burn is starting to fade. wink wink. :hello:

:iagree:

I've averaged 20.3mpg in 10k miles. about 60% city and 40% freeways. So not bad at all.

Nope weighed my Nismo and it was 3186 lbs on accurate scales with no spare and no tools about 1/2 tank of gas. I have no idea where the they got 3300 lbs for Nismo? Weighed it again during corner balance with full tank of gas and it was 3210 lbs? So even my "porky" Nismo is over 300 lbs less.:hello:

And while I know on street ithe moose-tang is ok on MPg I suspect it is very thirsty on the track.

And dudes my Chevy Crew cab work truck with v8 4.8 liter gets 17 mpg with mixed city and highway, it gets nearly 20 when doing hwy Lol! Leave it to Chevy to beat Mustang gas mileage with a huge truck. My Nismo is over 20 mpg combined and over 26 Hwy MPG..... but as I had said on track I suspect your V8 mustangs are terrible. They aren't the most efficient race cars.

Mustang...a "race car"?

:bowrofl:

Now we're talking about gas mileage and "MPG on the track"? :confused:

If the gas cost is the concern, you sure as hell can't afford the tires and brake pads and the paint damage from ending up in the gravel trap. :)

I suppose if you're talking about performance in road race/track events that require a pit stop it's relevant but now we're about a thousand miles from the concerns of 99% of the buyers of both cars.

To that point... Of the small percentage of people who will do more than drive it to work or go out cruising, the majority will be doing:

- Drag race
- Autocross
- HPDE

I'm sure a pro in a well-set-up Camry SE could probably mop the floor with most drivers of either a 370Z or a Mustang GT in any road racing contests, so really what we are concerned with here is factory setups being used for things most of the buyers will never do anyway, and which, if the car were actually used for that, would never use the factory setup anyway, i.e. "******** magazine racing."

I'm sure there are a few drivers who actually race both cars. I'm sure they can both do very well. But, for most buyers, getting all caught up in this "which car turned a faster lap at Laguna Seca" is kind of retarded, because as much as we all like to think of ourselves as little Mario Andretti's, most of us would be getting passed by a good driver in half the car, or going into a wall at the first turn. :rofl2: