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Red370 05-04-2011 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Marcus Ryan (Post 1089933)
It's also very worth noting that there are things about the Z that I'm really going to miss with the Stang. I felt so incredibly in tune with my Z, felt like I could make it do whatever I wanted. I'm still learning the stang, but I'm sitting a foot higher in the air and it just doesn't feel as planted to me. Maybe it will in time, but the Z solidly trumps the stang in this respect.
werd. Took me a few weeks to get used to the ride height.

m4a1mustang 05-04-2011 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Nitemare06 (Post 1089932)
Mustang wins there. Hands down. :stirthepot:
:icon18: I will say the Brembo GT and Sport Package 370 are very close. The only difference is feel. Grip levels are nearly the same and they are both pretty nimble and responsive. They just drive differently. There certainly is no lack of fun factor on some back roads with the Mustang, and with a better shock package it would best the M3 rather than match it.

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1089936)
Yeah, or you could drop like 50k into a car to be faster than pretty much everyone on the street, but spend all your time fixing it, rather than driving it...while collecting thousands of dollars in in tickets.
Sounds like you speak from experience. :icon17:

GZ3 05-04-2011 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1089893)
Or a Starbucks pit stop. :icon17:

But you're right... traction is very limited for us from a dig. The non Brembo cars have 245 width Pirelli all-seasons that they can roast all the way through 4th gear. The Brembo cars like mine run a Pirelli PZero summer but it's only 255 wide all around. We've got more power than the Z but less contact patch, so a run from a dig is really going to depend on if the driver can hook up.
:icon14:

i got 235!? that was the first thing to go on my car!! it was really funny cause i thought the car running really sluggish, maybe something wrong with it...i was like ohhh helll no not this again! But i decided to turn off advancetrac and whole shiittt i was slidding all over the damn road and when it caught, holy hell! advancetrac was keeping me on the ground the whole time lol

m4a1mustang 05-04-2011 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by GZ3 (Post 1089950)
:icon14:

i got 235!? that was the first thing to go on my car!! it was really funny cause i thought the car running really sluggish, maybe something wrong with it...i was like ohhh helll no not this again! But i decided to turn off advancetrac and whole shiittt i was slidding all over the damn road and when it caught, holy hell! advancetrac was keeping me on the ground the whole time lol
AdvanceTrac is great. It's a really smart system. I love Sport Mode. 90% of the time I am driving the car it's in sport mode. The only time I ever shut traction and stability control off is if I'm at the track.

And yeah, I forgot some of the Base model cars come with only 235s. Depends on which wheels you get.

Lug 05-04-2011 02:19 PM
Formula:

At this weight and hp range, 10hp = about 100 lbs

'Stangs are putting about 390 hp to the ground and weigh 3600 lbs
Z's are putting about 275 hp to the ground and weigh 3232 lbs
3600lbs - 3232lbs = 368 lbs

The 'Stang at it's current weight would need about 37 more hp to match the Z in acceleration. It has more than an extra 110 on tap. If you could get an extra 73 hp out of bolt-ons, you could match the 'stang.

GZ3 05-04-2011 02:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcus Ryan (Post 1089933)
It's also very worth noting that there are things about the Z that I'm really going to miss with the Stang. I felt so incredibly in tune with my Z, felt like I could make it do whatever I wanted. I'm still learning the stang, but I'm sitting a foot higher in the air and it just doesn't feel as planted to me. Maybe it will in time, but the Z solidly trumps the stang in this respect.

THIS!

that why am looking into some h&r springs, heard these make a world of difference

m4a1mustang 05-04-2011 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by GZ3 (Post 1089957)
THIS!

that why am looking into some h&r springs, heard these make a world of difference
You guys need to talk to Sam Strano at stranoparts.com. It's not just the springs but the shocks as well. Koni yellows or Tokico D-Specs (or even the Koni STR.Ts if you dont want adjustables) and your choice of lowering springs will make a world of a difference.

Keep in mind you'll also need an adjustable panhard bar to keep the rear end in proper alignment following a drop.

Marcus Ryan 05-04-2011 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1089935)
Did you get the standard GT or the Brembo package?

FWIW even with the Brembo pack the Mustang does like to move around more than the Z, so it takes some getting used to. Stock for stock the Z is more "point and shoot" and you can get away with treating the throttle as an on/off switch for the most part. You have to be a little more careful in the Mustang.

I'm really looking forward to taking to the Dragon with it in two weeks for ZDayZ, especially now that I have a lot of seat time with it.
Non-brembo. I figure if I'm going to spend 2k on a brake kit I can probably find something that suits me better, and I'll be doing some suspension work eventually anyways.

m4a1mustang 05-04-2011 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Marcus Ryan (Post 1089968)
Non-brembo. I figure if I'm going to spend 2k on a brake kit I can probably find something that suits me better, and I'll be doing some suspension work eventually anyways.
Makes sense.

Have you tried Sport Mode yet?

Marcus Ryan 05-04-2011 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1089972)
Makes sense.

Have you tried Sport Mode yet?
Not unless you mean turning off traction control.

shadoquad 05-04-2011 02:27 PM
I think what we're all forgetting here, and it is scientifically proven, is that all Mustang owners are :supergay:


:rofl2:

GZ3 05-04-2011 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Marcus Ryan (Post 1089973)
Not unless you mean turning off traction control.
lol...waiting for steve's explanation...

he got me at work with this one...

m4a1mustang 05-04-2011 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Marcus Ryan (Post 1089973)
Not unless you mean turning off traction control.
Nope. Hold the brake pedal down and tap the TC button twice. A dialogue should pop up on the display saying something like "Sport Mode Activated" and you'll enjoy tighter steering response and less intrusive AdvanceTrac settings.

Sibze 05-04-2011 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1089975)
I think what we're all forgetting here, and it is scientifically proven, is that all Mustang owners are :supergay:


:rofl2:

Lmao

m4a1mustang 05-04-2011 02:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1089975)
I think what we're all forgetting here, and it is scientifically proven, is that all Mustang owners are :supergay:


:rofl2:
Yet you still come to my garage to polish pipes. :bowrofl:

shadoquad 05-04-2011 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1089986)
Yet you still come to my garage to polish pipes. :bowrofl:
But I only make up a small percentage of Z owners. :icon17:

m4a1mustang 05-04-2011 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1089992)
But I only make up a small percentage of Z owners. :icon17:
So what you're saying is a large percentage of Mustang owners that post on 370Z forums are :superghey: because there is a very high probability that the Z owners they make friends with will come over and polish pipes, taste salty nuts, and spill fluids....

I love a good inside joke. :bowrofl:

shadoquad 05-04-2011 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1089996)
So what you're saying is a large percentage of Mustang owners that post on 370Z forums are :superghey: because there is a very high probability that the Z owners they make friends with will come over and polish pipes, taste salty nuts, and spill fluids....

I love a good inside joke. :bowrofl:
Mwahahahaha:rofl2:

I can't help it, man. I can't keep away from your solid rear axle.

m4a1mustang 05-04-2011 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1090004)
Mwahahahaha:rofl2:

I can't help it, man. I can't keep away from your solid rear axle.
It's all good, man. You gotta order exhaust soon so I can fondle those pipes again. :bowrofl:

Econ 05-04-2011 02:47 PM
this is getting a little....hmph nevermind

shadoquad 05-04-2011 02:49 PM
Sorry. We veered off topic. Didn't mean to derail.

m4a1mustang 05-04-2011 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Econ (Post 1090017)
this is getting a little....hmph nevermind
Join us for a future Mid-Atlantic meet. :stirthepot::icon18:

b1adesofcha0s 05-04-2011 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1090004)
Mwahahahaha:rofl2:

I can't help it, man. I can't keep away from your solid rear axle.
:icon18:

b1adesofcha0s 05-04-2011 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1090020)
Join us for a future Mid-Atlantic meet. :stirthepot::icon18:
A meeting of the Oh no 5 0 tags. Epic.

Econ 05-04-2011 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 1090052)
A meeting of the Oh no 5 0 tags. Epic.
:stirthepot:

m4a1mustang 05-04-2011 03:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Econ (Post 1090060)
:stirthepot:
:bowrofl:

rj45 05-05-2011 03:19 PM
m4a1mustang, how is your car's transmission holding up? I understand the M82 is having some grinding and engagement problems. From what I've read, it's mostly when the car's cold, but sometimes when it's warm, too. Owners report that there's no permanent fix in sight and that Ford is basically blowing them off. Seems like some 2012 cars are having the problem, too. Is this issue as widespread as the forums make it out to be? TIA

m4a1mustang 05-05-2011 03:29 PM
No issues here after 15k. I think a lot of newbies are complaining mostly about the cold shifts. Its nice and smooth when its warm.

baldie 05-05-2011 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1092448)
No issues here after 15k. I think a lot of newbies are complaining mostly about the cold shifts. Its nice and smooth when its warm.
same here, no issues at 10k.

GZ3 05-05-2011 03:33 PM
yeah same here...i like this tranny better than the Z's by far

GZ3 05-05-2011 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by baldie (Post 1092452)
same here, no issues at 10k.
do you own a Z also...love the avatar

Red370 05-05-2011 04:07 PM
I'm at 19.5, been running a race tune for 15, smoothest tranny i've experienced. Waaay shorter throws than I had in my Z.

baldie 05-05-2011 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by GZ3 (Post 1092454)
do you own a Z also...love the avatar
Haha thanks. The Z is my brother's and it's funny cause we took the picture after seeing yours lol.

christian370z 05-05-2011 06:09 PM
I stopped by a Ford dealership while the Z was getting an oil change today and test drove a '11 GT and wow, what a power train! So smooth, extremely flexible and provides a nice kick in the pants for sure. They also had a Boss 302 there, I almost laughed my way out of the dealership when I saw the markup:


http://i648.photobucket.com/albums/u...5-05091035.jpg

b1adesofcha0s 05-05-2011 06:21 PM
Holy crap! That's some ridiculous mark up. :roflpuke2:

Drex 05-05-2011 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by christian370z (Post 1092721)
I stopped by a Ford dealership while the Z was getting an oil change today and test drove a '11 GT and wow, what a power train! So smooth, extremely flexible and provides a nice kick in the pants for sure. They also had a Boss 302 there, I almost laughed my way out of the dealership when I saw the markup:


http://i648.photobucket.com/albums/u...5-05091035.jpg
wow :eek:

Red370 05-05-2011 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Drex (Post 1092772)
wow :eek:
:icon18: :eek:

Red__Zed 05-05-2011 08:37 PM
That's ridiculous.

shadoquad 05-05-2011 09:01 PM
That markup is disgusting. Reminds me of when the E92 M3 hit dealers around me. Markup was 30k

m4a1mustang 05-05-2011 09:03 PM
Yeah, there will be a little markup if you're buying off the showroom because of demand, but not that much.

Reminds me back in March of 2009 when the S&P 500 was trading at 666 points my local Nissan dealership had a $5,000 "Market Adjustment" on top of MSRP on my Z. :icon17:


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