Official '11 Mustang GT vs 370z Thread

[shadoquad]

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Funny story... I was trying to negotiate a deal on a 2004 Audi TT 3.2L for the GF a year or two ago.... at the same time, a Daddy and his 16 year old princess were also fighting for the car. There was no way I could win that battle, and the dealership loved it...

lol for real. If daddy was smart, he'd have her pick one out, then drive her home, then come back and negotiate.

[ProfessorDave]

Originally Posted by Jason370

Steve,
As one who lived the "heyday" of the muscle car era, I can assure you the Mustang big-blocks (particularly the 428 Super Cobra Jet and Boss 429) were muscle cars.
The only GTOs that were relevant muscle cars "on the street" were the 1964-1966 tri-power (three 2-barrel carbs) models.
Truly the "hot" street cars were the Chevys with solid lifter "Rat" motors (396/427/454) and Mopars with the 440 Six Pack (again, three 2 barrel carbs) and 426 Hemi motors.

Ahhhh yes...with the "air grabber" lever in the cockpit....Those were the days...

[Z eliminator]

I was at the drag strip 2 weeks ago and a guy hads a shelby cobra mustang there with drag radials and skinneys/ The motor is huge and the sipercharger is unbelivable.
It dynoed out at 726 rwhp.
what a car.

[ImportConvert]

The mustang betters or equals the 370Z in every performance category.

Either you like this, and the mustang's styling, or the Z's styling, etc. is enough to overcome this for you.

At least, that's how I see it.

[ImportConvert]

Originally Posted by shadoquad

Yeah, I see many more v6 "little dinky" stangs on the road than billy bad-azz GT's.

Dinky they may be, but they would still be a driver's race for other 6-bangers like the 370Z.

[shadoquad]

Originally Posted by ImportConvert

The mustang betters or equals the 370Z in every performance category.

Either you like this, and the mustang's styling, or the Z's styling, etc. is enough to overcome this for you.

At least, that's how I see it.

I think the Z still has better cornering and feel in the corners, but that advantage is very small. The Stang corners pretty much just as well but blows it out of the water in acceleration.

But the Z looks a lot smexier and is still great performance-wise. I'd still take the Z every day of the week. Performance is not a direct correlation to fun for me. They're related, but it's not everything.

[shadoquad]

Originally Posted by ImportConvert

Dinky they may be, but they would still be a driver's race for other 6-bangers like the 370Z.

It'd still be a driver's race for a Z vs. a GT. The driver makes the biggest difference in any race.

[ImportConvert]

Originally Posted by shadoquad

It'd still be a driver's race for a Z vs. a GT. The driver makes the biggest difference in any race.

You can argue that it would be a driver's race against a Viper, too, if you like, but the point remains that the 370Z NISMO only made it around VIR 1/2 second quicker than a V6 mustang that bounced off the rev-limiter at 114mph all down the straights.

With even a semi-competent driver, the GT is going to walk the 370Z. Sure, anyone can blow a launch, but assuming noone messes it up too bad...

[shadoquad]

Originally Posted by ImportConvert

You can argue that it would be a driver's race against a Viper, too, if you like, but the point remains that the 370Z NISMO only made it around VIR 1/2 second quicker than a V6 mustang that bounced off the rev-limiter at 114mph all down the straights.

In one C&D test where they ended up crashing and totaling the vehicle after only getting in a few decent laps.

Seriously, people put too much into mag times, and for that matter, too much into performance numbers. It's a sports car. We're not all running VIR every week.

[shadoquad]

Originally Posted by ImportConvert

With even a semi-competent driver, the GT is going to walk the 370Z. Sure, anyone can blow a launch, but assuming noone messes it up too bad...

That's a big assumption, and it's not just the launch, it's shifting, it's keeping it straight, it's weather conditions, tire conditions, etc, etc.

The cars aren't that far apart.

Edit: lol I gotta stop posting. This thread is old, these arguments are old. Both cars are great, buy what you love.

[m4a1mustang]

You have to stop posting before you get an aneurysm, Al.

Since I've had both I will say stock-for-stock, if traction is not a problem, the 370 isn't even close to the 5.0 in a straight line run. But traction is a huge problem with the 5.0, so it makes it a driver's race in that if the 5.0 driver is not on his game a properly driven 370 could easily get a good enough jump that the 5.0 couldn't overcome in 1/8 or 1/4 mile.

The 5.0 is basically a very low 12 second car running on high 12 second tires.

It's fun sometimes on the Mustang forums because every now and then you'll get a guy who thinks a 370 is a "sure thing," but then I have to educate them on jnaut, z eliminator, b1ades, etc. The Z can get into the 12s (and probably the high 11s on slicks) with bolt-ons and great driving. That's enough to serve some humble pie to a driver of any car who thinks he's hot stuff behind the wheel but doesn't have the skill to back it up.

[shadoquad]

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Since I've had both ... it makes it a driver's race

Thank you. I know the Stang's faster from stock, and if you mod for performance, the Stang can get much faster for much cheaper. But the Z can "get lucky" and catch a GT, just as surely as a v6 Stang can "get lucky" and catch a Z. Maybe the difference is less between the v6 and the Z, but whatevs. If you're buying a Stang and have a pair of testicles, get the v8.

[m4a1mustang]

Originally Posted by shadoquad

Thank you. I know the Stang's faster from stock, and if you mod for performance, the Stang can get much faster for much cheaper. But the Z can "get lucky" and catch a GT, just as surely as a v6 Stang can "get lucky" and catch a Z. Maybe the difference is less between the v6 and the Z, but whatevs. If you're buying a Stang and have a pair of testicles, get the v8.

I think the V6 Mustangs are the cars that people really need to look out for in terms of "cars that are really much faster than I thought they would be." A lot of people dismiss them but they are already in the 12s on bolt ons and they are coming out with supercharger kits for them putting down 400+ whp.

Bottom line is on the street, anything can happen. On the track you might get lucky every now and then (but then again, who is actually racing at a Test & Tune event?)

[shadoquad]

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

I think the V6 Mustangs are the cars that people really need to look out for in terms of "cars that are really much faster than I thought they would be." A lot of people dismiss them but they are already in the 12s on bolt ons and they are coming out with supercharger kits for them putting down 400+ whp.

Bottom line is on the street, anything can happen. On the track you might get lucky every now and then (but then again, who is actually racing at a Test & Tune event?)

How many folks are racing their sports cars period? And how often? Because they are the ones who should be concerned with performance numbers. The rest are buying mostly on reputation and cruising from point A to point B quickly and in style. If that's what you're buying for, then a Z or Mustang of any trim can do that without argument.

[m4a1mustang]

Originally Posted by shadoquad

How many folks are racing their sports cars period? And how often? Because they are the ones who should be concerned with performance numbers. The rest are buying mostly on reputation and cruising from point A to point B quickly and in style. If that's what you're buying for, then a Z or Mustang of any trim can do that without argument.

Eggsackitalley.