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I still don't think the difference is that great in handling. And I stand by my statement that the Mustang is better balanced. The Z has a lot of understeer

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Old 09-13-2010, 10:12 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I still don't think the difference is that great in handling. And I stand by my statement that the Mustang is better balanced. The Z has a lot of understeer from the factory... too much, IMO.

And I don't see how torque is going to be the key to the 2010 Mustang keeping up so well at VIR, a horsepower track. The 370Z is faster in a straight line than the 2010 Mustang GT and slightly better under braking than the track-pack 2010. It's all chassis that's keeping the Mustang close. Not torque. I've run there before and there's no point on that track where the 370Z isn't going to pull a 2010 Mustang (stock for stock).

Anyways, the Z needs an oil cooler but not from the factory. 9 out of 10 Z's that are sold will never see a situation that requires one, so it makes more sense to let the end user deal with it.
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For those who haven't seen/read this it's a pretty good review. Pobst is a pretty respected driver. Looks like with a set of shocks, the Mustang would have been the clear winner Vs. a virtual tie... Be sure to watch the video!

M3 Vs the Pony: 2011 BMW M3 Coupe vs. 2011 Ford Mustang GT Comparison - Motor Trend
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For those who haven't seen/read this it's a pretty good review. Pobst is a pretty respected driver. Looks like with a set of shocks, the Mustang would have been the clear winner Vs. a virtual tie... Be sure to watch the video!

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Agreed. Shocks and you're all set.
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For those who haven't seen/read this it's a pretty good review. Pobst is a pretty respected driver. Looks like with a set of shocks, the Mustang would have been the clear winner Vs. a virtual tie... Be sure to watch the video!

M3 Vs the Pony: 2011 BMW M3 Coupe vs. 2011 Ford Mustang GT Comparison - Motor Trend
Pobst indicated that the Mustang was quite unstable at speed. That would be a thumbs-down in the course of a race. This is a comparison of stock vs stock. Aftermarket shocks would improve the M3 as well, no doubt. And the nose dive...

"The car stands on its nose when you go to brake," says Randy, "And there's a fair amount of squat, so you feel a lot of pitch. It doesn't seem to be hurting the cars braking or entry that much, but it's disconcerting."

The Mustang is a great car, but it's no M3. I'm repeating myself, I guess.
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Ok so... for 30+k over the price of the stang, the M3 gives better overall handling/braking dynamics, even by a small margin. Better looks, and more clout? -- just an opinion.

And for the stang vs the Z at relatively the same price the stang gives more straight line speed by a good margin. And overall handling/braking dynamics are slightly better in the Z. Better looks in the Z and i would say street cred is fairly similar between the two cars. The exotic card going in the Z's favor. And stang has the red neck slap your sister on the butt and kiss your mother and like it cred i kid i kid!
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