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Red370 09-10-2010 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 280z/300zx (Post 716332)
So the GT500 does the 1/4 mile in 12.6 but the regular GT mustang does it in 12.7-12.8. Not sure I see the quantification for the price increase even if the GT500 handles better than the regular GT mustang. I think I would prefer the 30k GT and then add a couple grand into suspension and power mods.

the GT500's biggest issue is grip, it makes a shit ton of power/torque, throw some slicks on it and it instantly turns into a mid/high 11's car. But I agree, you can get a base 5.0 like mine for 27.5k, Whipple has a 2.3L twin screw kit that makes 624hp at 9psi safely for 7k, so for roughly 34k, you can have one of the baddest cars on the street. Suspension of course is a different story but if you're going for straight line, you cant really beat it.

dnasty370z 09-11-2010 10:34 AM

WHERE is the Z28! Chevy need's to put an end ford's 15 minutes of fame! I just really hope the z28 went on a diet though lol

Sibze 09-11-2010 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by dnasty370z (Post 716941)
WHERE is the Z28! Chevy need's to put an end ford's 15 minutes of fame! I just really hope the z28 went on a diet though lol

Big diet

Shyne 09-11-2010 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by 280z/300zx (Post 716332)
So the GT500 does the 1/4 mile in 12.6 but the regular GT mustang does it in 12.7-12.8. Not sure I see the quantification for the price increase even if the GT500 handles better than the regular GT mustang. I think I would prefer the 30k GT and then add a couple grand into suspension and power mods.

the tenths might be close at times on the track, but the trap speed is def noticeable.

and the z28 would be a competitor to the gt500, not the mustang gt. so its gonna be an expensive vehicle. probably close to 50k and over.

m4a1mustang 09-11-2010 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Shyne (Post 716975)
the tenths might be close at times on the track, but the trap speed is def noticeable.

and the z28 would be a competitor to the gt500, not the mustang gt. so its gonna be an expensive vehicle. probably close to 50k and over.

:iagree:

shadoquad 09-11-2010 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 717116)
:iagree:

I hear the new mustangs attract nails to their tires. Did you want to weigh in on your experience?

Just kidding, man. It was nice seeing your ride in person. She's mean, bro!

m4a1mustang 09-11-2010 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 717168)
I hear the new mustangs attract nails to their tires. Did you want to weigh in on your experience?

Just kidding, man. It was nice seeing your ride in person. She's mean, bro!

Thanks dude... next time I will provide shuttle services to Starbucks... we'll get there faster (and can get more starbucks) ;)

As far as the nail goes, turns out it was squished sideways into the tread, it didn't actually go in and puncture the tire. :tup:

Red370 09-11-2010 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 717239)
Thanks dude... next time I will provide shuttle services to Starbucks... we'll get there faster (and can get more starbucks) ;)

As far as the nail goes, turns out it was squished sideways into the tread, it didn't actually go in and puncture the tire. :tup:

dude i've been reading about this, do those P Zeros have some kind of tread that makes them particularly susceptible to nails/bolts n shit? i've read like 10 people on the stang forums bitching about it.

m4a1mustang 09-11-2010 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Red370 (Post 717248)
dude i've been reading about this, do those P Zeros have some kind of tread that makes them particularly susceptible to nails/bolts n ****? i've read like 10 people on the stang forums bitching about it.

They are just sticky as ****. My guess is if you run over a nail you have a good chance of picking it up (like I did) and giving it more of a chance to dig into the tire whereas the less sticky A/S tires probably reduce that effect (if the nail doesn't puncture the tire right away it probably has a better shot of kicking the nail away vs. a sticky tire).

Plus we're running a 255 vs. the 235 or 245s on some of the other cars, so we're increasing our chances of picking up a nail just because we've got a slightly larger contact patch.

Mainly I think it's just the construction in my area. I never had an issue with nails with my first three cars, then I had a puncture in the Z and an almost-puncture with the 5.0. I punctured the Z's left rear tire maybe 2 months ago or so.

Tjai370Z 09-11-2010 05:34 PM

im only like around 5ft3 or 5ft4. does anyone think i would be too short or have trouble druving the mustang gt 5.0??

m4a1mustang 09-11-2010 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Tjai370Z (Post 717268)
im only like around 5ft3 or 5ft4. does anyone think i would be too short or have trouble druving the mustang gt 5.0??

I think you'd be fine. There is a lot of movement available for the driver's seat, I don't think you'd have an issue getting to a comfortable position. :tup:

FuszNissan 09-11-2010 06:04 PM

Steve, the blue GT500 went last night. Now the showroom looks so boring.

m4a1mustang 09-11-2010 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by FuszNissan (Post 717283)
Steve, the blue GT500 went last night. Now the showroom looks so boring.

When you guys get a Boss on the showroom floor let me know. :yum:

FuszNissan 09-11-2010 06:07 PM

Will do , I'll send you some teasers.

Tjai370Z 09-11-2010 06:10 PM

I'm just worried the seats would be place very low to the point you can't see over the dash. i see over the 370z very well but I'm not so sure about the gt

Red370 09-11-2010 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Tjai370Z (Post 717293)
I'm just worried the seats would be place very low to the point you can't see over the dash. i see over the 370z very well but I'm not so sure about the gt

you'll be just fine, the seats are 4 way adjustable in mine, just pump it up to the height you want. Hell, go test drive one.

Red370 09-11-2010 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 717286)
When you guys get a Boss on the showroom floor let me know. :yum:

im gonna go test drive one. :rock:

dnasty370z 09-12-2010 11:44 AM

IDK i just think it was kinda a low blow to chevy how ford came out with a new mustang with a comepletly diff body and still with the old 4.6 in 2011 and in 2012 pop'd out with the 5.0 with a **** load more power and never gave GM the chance to make the camaro a good match. Plus If I was a mustang owner that bought a GT in 2011 cause it was the new and "improved" mustang I would be hella pissed if a year later they did that to me I'd feel like I wasted my money? Anybody agree?

Lug 09-12-2010 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by dnasty370z (Post 717745)
IDK i just think it was kinda a low blow to chevy how ford came out with a new mustang with a comepletly diff body and still with the old 4.6 in 2011 and in 2012 pop'd out with the 5.0 with a **** load more power and never gave GM the chance to make the camaro a good match. Plus If I was a mustang owner that bought a GT in 2011 cause it was the new and "improved" mustang I would be hella pissed if a year later they did that to me I'd feel like I wasted my money? Anybody agree?

So you are bashing Ford for improving their car too much and not being "fair" to the competition by giving their customers a better car?, really? :confused:

Modshack 09-12-2010 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by dnasty370z (Post 717745)
IDK i just think it was kinda a low blow to chevy how ford came out with a new mustang with a comepletly diff body and still with the old 4.6 in 2011 and in 2012 pop'd out with the 5.0 with a **** load more power and never gave GM the chance to make the camaro a good match. Plus If I was a mustang owner that bought a GT in 2011 cause it was the new and "improved" mustang I would be hella pissed if a year later they did that to me I'd feel like I wasted my money? Anybody agree?


Huh? The porky Camaro has been in the news for what, 4 years now? Ford had plenty of time to trump them. The 5.0 came out as a 2011 last March...If I'd bought a 2010 (the last of the 4.6's), I'd be pissed.....Just like if I'd bought a 2008 350Z, or a 2007 Corvette just before the LS3. Stuff changes. Stay informed and you can be on the cutting edge....

dnasty370z 09-12-2010 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Lug (Post 717754)
So you are bashing Ford for improving their car too much and not being "fair" to the competition by giving their customers a better car?, really? :confused:

no. I am bashing ford cause If I bought a BRAND NEW GT in 2010 because it was the new and improved mustang gt and one year later for the same price and everything they come out with a gt thats a whole one hundred horses more and with better mpg's , better suspension, ETc. If you where in this position You wouldn't feel a little ripped off just a little? Especially since it's not like ford put out a MEMo saying Here's the 2010 BRAND NEW MUSTANG but wait.......you might wanna wait one year cause it's pretty much gonna be mechanically a totally diff car next year oh did i mention the extra 100 horses part? And as far as the competition goes i feel car makers have an unwritten law of not out doing each other too much for the sake of sale's which is the honest thing to do now chevy made it known way before the camaro came out what it was going to be and they did not change that they stuck with it they did not advertise a car one year...put it in show rooms.....sell it.....notice it was not as good as some of the competition and say wait hold on a sec never mind let me do a do over on the mustang????Basically I would not be bashing Ford if they never came out with that crap in 2010 and have came out with the 5.0 I dont think it was fair to their CUSTOMERS not to mention the competition. So to answer your question noim not mad at themf or making their car's too good i love stang's :tiphat:

dnasty370z 09-12-2010 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Modshack (Post 717780)
Huh? The porky Camaro has been in the news for what, 4 years now? Ford had plenty of time to trump them. The 5.0 came out as a 2011 last March...If I'd bought a 2010 (the last of the 4.6's), I'd be pissed.....Just like if I'd bought a 2008 350Z, or a 2007 Corvette just before the LS3. Stuff changes. Stay informed and you can be on the cutting edge....

That is what I am saying the only thing is not everyone in this world is able to be on top of the latest news like us lol That's why im really happy with my 09' 370 :tup:

Lug 09-12-2010 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by dnasty370z (Post 717788)
no. I am bashing ford cause If I bought a BRAND NEW GT in 2010 because it was the new and improved mustang gt and one year later for the same price and everything they come out with a gt thats a whole one hundred horses more and with better mpg's , better suspension, ETc. If you where in this position You wouldn't feel a little ripped off just a little? Especially since it's not like ford put out a MEMo saying Here's the 2010 BRAND NEW MUSTANG but wait.......you might wanna wait one year cause it's pretty much gonna be mechanically a totally diff car next year oh did i mention the extra 100 horses part? And as far as the competition goes i feel car makers have an unwritten law of not out doing each other too much for the sake of sale's which is the honest thing to do now chevy made it known way before the camaro came out what it was going to be and they did not change that they stuck with it they did not advertise a car one year...put it in show rooms.....sell it.....notice it was not as good as some of the competition and say wait hold on a sec never mind let me do a do over on the mustang????Basically I would not be bashing Ford if they never came out with that crap in 2010 and have came out with the 5.0 I dont think it was fair to their CUSTOMERS not to mention the competition. So to answer your question noim not mad at themf or making their car's too good i love stang's :tiphat:

Um, the 2010 Mustang was much improved over the 2009. Most of the handling improvements came out then. I think Ford put out the 5.0 as soon as it was finished testing for their customers. I just don't see how "fair" enters into it at all. It's like saying improving your product over time isn't "fair". To take that to it's logical conclusion, we should all be driving Model T's and no one should be able to improve their 100 meter time in a foot race.....it just wouldn't be "fair".

:D

Red370 09-12-2010 04:47 PM

I tell you what though, i'll be a pissed off SOB if they come out with a direct injected 5.0 for the 12' GT that puts out 440hp and 410 ft/lbs, that would make me go insane.

Lemers 09-12-2010 04:50 PM

Maybe I'd trade my Z in '12 if they did that

Red370 09-12-2010 05:01 PM

the only issue I see with that would be that it would scavenge the sales of the Boss. Supposedly they built this engine initially for direct injection, which one would assume, would be the next stage in the build, hopefully they wait until a newer model refresh a few years down the road. Ford is planning on scrapping the 5.4 and using the 5.0 in their new trucks and GT500 cars as well, just found that out today. Imagine, a GT500 with 550+ hp and 26mpg, insanity.

Lug 09-12-2010 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Red370 (Post 717958)
I tell you what though, i'll be a pissed off SOB if they come out with a direct injected 5.0 for the 12' GT that puts out 440hp and 410 ft/lbs, that would make me go insane.

What if they have a back seat delete option....wouldn't that blow your mind?!?!?!?!?!? :eek:

Red370 09-12-2010 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Lug (Post 717988)
What if they have a back seat delete option....wouldn't that blow your mind?!?!?!?!?!? :eek:

thats probably the only thing I dont miss about my Z, having that back seat was actually one of the things that swayed me towards the mustang, I'm in the military so I usually have to carry a shitload of equipment, I kinda needed it, but that Boss back seat delete is sick.

theDreamer 09-12-2010 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Red370 (Post 717958)
I tell you what though, i'll be a pissed off SOB if they come out with a direct injected 5.0 for the 12' GT that puts out 440hp and 410 ft/lbs, that would make me go insane.

Be prepared to be mad then, this is the coyote engine in the 2011 Mustang, all setup for DI already.
http://images.thetruthaboutcars.com/...011Mustang.jpg

NyCSnEaK 09-12-2010 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 718041)
Be prepared to be mad then, this is the coyote engine in the 2011 Mustang, all setup for DI already.
http://www.streetlegaltv.com/files/2...011Mustang.jpg

Yeah I heard about fact that Ford future proofed the 5.0 so it does not fall back like it did with the 4.6.

m4a1mustang 09-12-2010 06:43 PM

The 5.0 will get DI somewhere down the line, but it probably won't be for 2012. My guess is somewhere around the 2013-2015 refresh.

theDreamer 09-12-2010 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 718122)
The 5.0 will get DI somewhere down the line, but it probably won't be for 2012. My guess is somewhere around the 2013-2015 refresh.

I was thinking the 50th anniversary edition?

Red370 09-12-2010 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 718127)
I was thinking the 50th anniversary edition?

methinks this may be the case. I'll also assume they'll have a plug and play DI kit for aftermarket purchase as well. Woot for that.

Red370 09-12-2010 06:58 PM

and that'll be around the time i'm done payin for this bad boy, then of course, i'll be upgrading :tup:

Lemers 09-12-2010 06:59 PM

I think that ford will work the DI into it's hire volume cars before Ford works DI into the stang.

wilsonp 09-13-2010 12:07 AM

Like Honda and VTEC, I would think Ford would work out the issues in a more limited run vehicle and the move it mass market.

Lemers 09-13-2010 12:14 AM

Ford is already working issues out in limited use with the ecoboost enigines. But before it goes into the mustang V8 5.0 that we've been talking about. Ford will put the DI into a higher volume car. It will increase fleet MPG and defer the cost of tech and retooling in a car that will see a return on the investment faster.

dnasty370z 09-13-2010 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Red370 (Post 717958)
I tell you what though, i'll be a pissed off SOB if they come out with a direct injected 5.0 for the 12' GT that puts out 440hp and 410 ft/lbs, that would make me go insane.

And yet this other guy does not get what i have been trying to say atleast you do lol

chewonyou 09-13-2010 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Red370 (Post 717993)
thats probably the only thing I dont miss about my Z, having that back seat was actually one of the things that swayed me towards the mustang, I'm in the military so I usually have to carry a shitload of equipment, I kinda needed it, but that Boss back seat delete is sick.

+1 here. I'm in the military as well and when you go away for training like IOBC or any other schools you probably will be carrying at least 2 duffel bags if not more of gear. That simply can't fit in a 350Z or a 370Z. Knowing that the 5.0's performance in every single category is better than the 370Z and less expensive makes the 5.0 a no-brainer. There's really nothing besides "feel" that the 370z "may" do better than the 5.0 while at the same time being more expensive when similarly optioned out.

m4a1mustang 09-13-2010 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by chewonyou (Post 718720)
+1 here. I'm in the military as well and when you go away for training like IOBC or any other schools you probably will be carrying at least 2 duffel bags if not more of gear. That simply can't fit in a 350Z or a 370Z. Knowing that the 5.0's performance in every single category is better than the 370Z and less expensive makes the 5.0 a no-brainer.

Not every single category, the Z is still the better handling car of the two (though only by a small margin, and the Brembo Mustang beats the pants off the Akebonos) and one could argue that the Z is the better looking of the two (I like them both for different reasons).

But yes, a back seat is great. I like the ability to carry more than one person. :tup:


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